Hey nobody said any of these guys quoted weren't douchebags too. Its all about picking the lesser of the fucks, cause if you aren't a fuck, you aren't allowed in the ring.

Then if you vote you are saying that it's OK to have a fuck for president as long as he's less of a fuck than the other guy.

Really?

No Fucking way. Anybody who accepts that is encouraging the system to remain fucked up.

And in the long run we are the ones getting fucked.

Just cause we're picking a fuck in the short term doesn't mean we aren't working for change.

Ah, but wait, shouldn't we have taken him out of power when Bush I was president and we were already at war with Iraq?

We sold Saddaam the weapons. We put Saddaam in office. It seems to follow that we would know what he had and when he used them. We were selling him more nerve gas as recently as '89. No deception here.

Instead of a two party system we really should have a 3 to 200 party system. Coke or Pepsi? You're still drinking Cola Sun!

Nader in 2004!

Im working for change too. I'll have my paper mache Bush protest head finished just as soon as I glue on the devil horns and hitler mustache - itll be sweet!

Everbody´s crying for changes, and nobody´s workin on it.

How depressive this movie is, the musik, the style.
Maybe its the truth, but everbodys knows it already, so what?
If Votes would change something, they were forbidden.
Ok, Kerry is the lesser evil, and somehow i like him.

All we can do (even iam a german and the situation isn´t as bad as its in america, but the generell view is the same) is choose the lesser evil and trust in technology, specially the internet.

Politcs are fucked up, SNAFU, the whole system is runned by people with absurd, uptight views.

And whenever nobody knows what to do, everbody says something have to be done.

I say, here and now, in the long run
this
is the way which will change more the every vote have done.

Oh, i haven´t read your post , thats fine.
Ok, some people are working on it, but still they aren´t enough.
Its a counter-culture, this whole internet-haxxor-surfer-chatter (aso) community,
but the 'common' people are still in the superior number.

I´ll wonder when the 'critical mass' is reached.
For me, its longest overdue.

Hey Sachs!

Are you making sense, or was that just your stream of consciousness spilling over its banks?

what the shit.

that's it, I'm going straight.

Don't pick on Sachs. He's German. They are almost like regular white people.

Except when they wear those gay assed leather shorts.

Bet his Englich is better than your German. Auf lederhosen.

For sure. I have German relatives and I refuse to talk to them unless they speak english.

Do the VW - voting & waiting

No, Loki.

I wouldn't be surprised if his English was better than your English.

Not mine though. ^__^

Well, lets close this with a nazi quote, maybe we should do this int every poltical comment.

'Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.'

Well, the pacifists *do* expose their country to danger, and lack patriotism particularly if the country is being attacked.

What measures the quality of the character of leadership is what that leader will do when the people come to his bidding.

Democrats (including Our Savior(TM) John Kerry) are no more immune to this than Republicans.