vasudevaThu Oct 09
 

When I heard Obama pronouncing it brown-style at the first presidential debate, I wondered if that would help confirm in the minds of dumbs that he's a terrorist.

It's worthwhile to note that the way McCain pronounces 'Taliban' -- 'tolleebon' -- would almost certainly be overlooked.

 
 
hoboThu Oct 09
 

NU-CU-LAR

 
 
ghostriderThu Oct 09
 

I'm glad McCain got his arms and shoulders all broken up at the Hanoi Hilton, his C-3PO stance is hilarious.

 
 
bigdinwaunakeeThu Oct 09
 

He is a walking stiff, chock full o cancer cells just waiting to proliferate.

 
 
mundhraThu Oct 09
 

Is Petraeus also exotic, academic, and annoying?

*RECORD SCRATCH*

 
 
friedeggjerkyThu Oct 09
 

LMAO!!! C3PO STANCE!!!!!

 
 
CrackalackinThu Oct 09
 

Exotic, academic, heroic and quixotic

 
 
68rebelThu Oct 09
 

McCain looked like Yosemite Sam...when the dynamite didn't go off!

 
 
The_RatFri Oct 10
 

GhostRider, McCain did not get his arms broken at the Hanoi Hilton. His arms were broken when he ejected improperly from his jet despite being trained how to do so.

He even admits that if he wasn't the son of an Admiral he would have died because as soon as the Vietnamese found out who he was they gave him the best medical treatment. He was treated better than any other prisoner. He was even offered early release but was smart enough to know that it would have ended his military and political career if he went home first.

 
 
LORDKAHUNAFri Oct 10
 

but was smart enough to know that it would have ended his military and political career if he went home first.

This is the dumbest shit I have read all day, say what you want about his politics but do you think he was thinking that way back then?

 
 
vasudevaFri Oct 10
 

That may actually be true.

From that 'Make-Believe Maverick' article in Rolling Stone (just the handiest source, I've seen this idea in a lot of spots)...

In June 1968, after three months in solitary, he was offered what he calls early release. In the official McCain narrative, this was the ultimate test of mettle. He could have come home, but keeping faith with his fellow POWs, he chose to remain imprisoned in Hanoi.

What McCain glosses over is that accepting early release would have required him to make disloyal statements that would have violated the military's Code of Conduct. If he had done so, he could have risked court-martial and an ignominious end to his military career. 'Many of us were given this offer,' according to Butler, McCain's classmate who was also taken prisoner. 'It meant speaking out against your country and lying about your treatment to the press. You had to 'admit' that the U.S. was criminal and that our treatment was 'lenient and humane.' So I, like numerous others, refused the offer.'

'He makes it sound like it was a great thing to have accomplished,' says Dramesi. 'A great act of discipline or strength. That simply was not the case.'

Evidently there are also Geneva Convention considerations to accepting early release when there are still POWs. (First I've heard of it, unsure of accuracy.)

And he was ambitious enough to be thinking about politics back then, I think.

 
 
ghostriderFri Oct 10
 

I couldn't give a rat's ass(heh) how that coward got his arms broked. I enjoy his robot moves, but thanks for the history lesson.

P.S:; I read Rolling Stone too.

 
 
The_RatSat Oct 11
 

It is incredibly naive for anyone to think that a rich spoiled kid like McCain would actually join the military in a time of war for ANYTHING but military or political ambitions.

Rich kids are in college or join the National Guard like Bush did.

 
 


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