Absolute BS, If they had actually created free energy and broken the laws of thermodynamics then they have done something that is akin to landing an alien ship in the middle of central park in significance.

It is the sheer magnitude of the event would fundamentally change the the world and our understanding of the universe to a point that everything we know to date and have proven to date means absolutely nothing. This is pure bullocks and they know it.

Just on the significance of this I can prove that this is BS. Think for a moment about everything this would mean. Not only do we save all the world climate problems and SAVE THE PLANET . We are now able to do pretty much every sci fi imagined space travel. But things that hurt my brain to even think about. All they have to do is give it to the world. They would be the greatest heroes this planet has ever known. They would want for NOTHING , all they have to do is download the plans online so we all can make one. . But .. they .. wont

Every person that dies because this power supply is not available to people everything from making fresh water to powering a hospital in the third world. and thousands of other things is on their head. every life that ends that could have been saved by a 'free energy ' device is now their fault. It would be akin to having a cure to a terrible disease but saying ' not yet mate we want to keep our patent protected' Well congrats, you have just become worse than any evil that has ever walked the face of the earth. This device . IF IT WORKED would be the fundamental step up for mankind on a level that dwarfs even the mastery of fire.

But they are keeping it secret for money

Thats why it is BS , thats why it is a scam. hat is why it will never be seen by JREF or anyone else or by critical science outside of their 'choosen group'

Why don't you relax and wait for the public demonstration in July.

It makes sense for Steorn to go public right away with what they had to insure they didn't get black bagged by some energy industry goons.
It also makes sense to challange members of the scientific community to validate it, and to take thier time finding reputable scientists to do so.
It also makes sense to protect the details until they've compensated any investors in the project.

I say that it will work, but the size of a machine to power a house will be the size of a city.

If I invented an over-unity device, but wanted to make money off of it, I'd probably follow the same course they have so far. I'm adapting a wait-and-see attitude for this one.

nope, the invention will be bought by big oil, squashed till whenever

Big oil can only buy if these guys will want to sell.

If Big Oil says that they want to sell- they want to sell.

'Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.' - Nikolai Tesla

'GACK! THESE FUCKING FEATHERS WON'T GET OFF ME!!! WHAT'S THAT SMELL?! GERMS!!!' -- Nikola Tesla

modern science has not and cannot explain the mystery that is electricity. EM theory is based on the farce that charge separation somehow creates an electric field OUT OF NOTHING.
the lie that is modern electromagnetics continues to be propagated for two reasons:
1) free energy would mean the end of capitalism and probably just about every other ism known
2) free energy would mean the creation of the most destructive weapons ever imagined
two nobel prizes have been awarded for work substantiating these claims.

Charge seperation takes work, and that work is returned when the charges flow back together. I personally think that everything is created from nothing, and it is the seperation of nothingness into opposing somethings that is responsible for matter and energy. If you summed up the universe (or all the universes) then it would add up to zero.

sugarslim, I'll give your avatar back for a dollar.

Socrates would be proud of our ability to talk high-falutin shit for days without a fucking wit between us.

Speak for yourself, hombre

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