maybe a 'Police State' category is in order.

Bad cop - No donut

Those damn eggheads at the library are always causing trouble.

fucking powertrip. if you're escorting someone out and they're leaving, why do you have to grab them.

police officers threatened to shoot her with a Taser when she asked an officer for his name and his badge number.

interesting, given the cause of this incident.

Damn, I miss high school. Apperently things have changed, though... hehe.

That would be because its college

Fuck the Bruins.

video on the bruin site doesn't seem to be working.

look here.

Thickneck idiots sick with power I get; but have a little discretion. Throwing shit down with this kid while there are obviously multiple people recording their actions, though? Arrogant pridefulness at work, I suppose. Once you start it, you gotta finish it, or you lose face. It's been awhile since my mouth was actually agape. Disgusting.

I don't see a problem except the one sided report they wrote. If a cop says move or get out do it and you wont have a problem. Or be an ass and get tased.

Sure, but the point was the random ID check -- for his library card. In a library.

And i'm sure he was targeted for NO REASON WHAT SO EVER. come on now. take off your media glasses and stop eating EVERYTHING they feed you.

YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND.

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Welcome!

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The student was on his way out when stopped again, that is when he was tazed. Also I think the cops got better things to do , then to run around the library picking on students studying or whatever.

They said they have had problems there in the past. Oh im sure there is nothing going on anywhere else on the campus but the library at 11pm .

Those cops where just trying to swing there dicks around and they fell off.

'And i'm sure he was targeted for NO REASON WHAT SO EVER. come on now. take off your media glasses and stop eating EVERYTHING they feed you.'

Right. No ID SHOULD = PUBLIC TORTURE. You are aware that people usually can't stand up after being Tased. You do know that, right?

Now, assuming this sort of atrocity is all hunky-dory in your little corner of the world: who (if anyone) do you feel SHOULD be protected from this sort of cruel and sadistic action? Besides yourself, of COURSE.

Well, you're probably thinking, at least they never Taser little first graders...oh snap. Well, I guess the kid was being a radical Leftist too. His parents probably voted Libertarian or something. Little bastard probably deserved it in some way, right? Posing a 40 pound danger to the school and its faculty, perhaps?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6468373/

Okay, yeah, WTF ever. Just like the 12-year-old girl who was Tasered by cops just a few days later for the crime of being truant. Obviously a menace to society and deserving of any indignity any cop wants to inflict.

You know, it's fucking horrid how there isn't more outrage when this sort of thing happens to other people.

BTW, we all know damn well you'd be keening and howling just as loudly if this sort of attack had been perpetrated against you or someone you care about.

Apparently the Dumbing Down of America is proceeding apace...*sigh*

68andioweya1 is one of those guys who will go out with a group of friends and pass a joint around in the car while laughing and carrying on. But, when they see blue lights, and they toss the joint and roll down the windows scared shitless, trying to raise their sunken cognitive functions from the silt and murk of comfortable buzzitude as the cop makes his way to the driver's window, he quietly wets himself all the way through until urine is trickling in rivulets down to his absorbent socks.

When the cop asks the driver for ID, he asks him, 'Do you know why I pulled you over?'

The driver, his acumen dangerously enriched by cocktail of THC, endorphins and epinephrine, waltzes through the questions. He learns he has a tail light out and breathes a sigh of genuine relief.

The cop sniffs. 'Have you guys been smoking cannibus, or engaging in any other illegal activities tonight?'

The silence fills every empty space in the car, the weight of it causing the tires to bulge. Everyone is high, and the right answer seems slippery. The cop's flashlight overexposes them one by one.

The driver, electricity in his veins, begins to form a sentence - a beautiful, Hannibal-Lector-smooth sentence that will send them on their way when 68andioweya1, his pants soaked, his ass crack siphoning piss away from his taint, his chest about to explode as his heart throws itself against his sternum, blurts, 'We were smoking pot earlier, but we threw it out the window.'

The cop tells them all to sit still as he keys up his shoulder handset and says something incoherent into it. His flashlight beam whips through the car, then begins zig-zagging the grass near the road.

submit to authority or run the risk of self-respect!

Read the non-breaking news, non-biased version of the story from the same paper as the link above, not the reactionary, uninformed, unresearched opinion piece of shit that the 'breaking news' story tries to pass off as journalism.

http://www.dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38960

Mostafa Tabatabainejad, a UCLA student, was repeatedly stunned with a Taser and then taken into custody when he did not exit the CLICC Lab in Powell Library in a timely manner. Community Service Officers had asked Tabatabainejad to leave after he failed to produce his BruinCard during a random check at around 11:30 p.m. Tuesday.

UCPD Assistant Chief of Police Jeff Young said the checks are a standard procedure in the library after 11 p.m.

'Because of the safety of the students we limit the use after 11 to just students, staff and faculty,' Young said.

He didn't present an i.d. when asked to, didn't leave when asked to otherwise why would the CSO go get a cop to escort him out? When the real cop arrived he was belligerent and you can hear him yelling on the tape trying to incite the crowd. If I was one of those three or four cops there with that mob I would do the same thing in an attempt to keep him from further inciting the crowd - and as a bonus it's easier and safer to drag someone who is unresisting out if you need to leave quickly.

The stupid kid that's crying the cop threatened to tase him too is probably the idiot in the white shirt that runs like a little bitch at the end of the video. Go back and watch to see how he asks for the cops badge number. The posturing and hand motions are definitely aggressive actions and the cop had every right to use that verbal threat to protect himself as far as I'm concerned.

jesus stump, did you watch the video? There's a cop screaming 'get up or we'll tase you' like a broken record, a bunch of students watching in horror, repeated tasing which seems unnecessary considering the guy was kind of passed out in a pool of pain and pitiful self-righteousness. Tasing students is not the usual protocol or standard procedure when some student is being a tired asshole to a cop who is a tired asshole.

This is every bit as bad as you know it is.

I think what some of you don't understand is that every year, people do die from TASERs. It has led more than a handful of times to death by suffocation because it disrupts muscle function. When you TASER someone, you are taking a chance that you could kill them. In some cases, I agree with it. In this case, you have a handcuffed, crying student, and several officers. Why couldn't they just pick his ass up and carry him out? And to threaten to TASER someone else because they're yelling? Please. Would it be ok with you if he threated to punch him? It shouldn't. That cop shouldn't have to threaten him with physical violence when he could threaten him with jail.

I watched the same video and put yourself in those cops shoes. They had what could have quickly become an unruly mob on their hands. Until they get down into the lobby area there are only two actual cops there - the others involved (CSOs) are student workers hired to assist the UCPD - they have no legal rights to lay hands on someone else.

You're letting the emotion present in the video color your thinking. Look at the facts presented in the article I linked to. Address them and ask yourself 'as a cop what would I do in that situation?' They didn't know at the time he was a student, the crowd wasn't watching in horror, they were close to rushing the cops, and he wasn't anywhere near passed out until the final tasing.

The biggest mistake they made was not just picking him up bodily and carrying him out - but he was still struggling even after the second tasering, that right there is a sign that they weren't using a setting that would have endangered his life.

Again Nocal - he's faced with another belligerent student who is assuming a threatening posture while there is a mob present. He told him several times to back away - what's his other alternative when that doesn't work? Pull out the nightstick and have to use it? Definite lasting physical effects and the sight of that billy club would just add fuel to the mobs fire. The belligerent student has seen the effect of a taser first hand - telling him you're going to use it on him if he doesn't back away seems to be the prudent thing to de-esculate the situation, and lo and behold - it worked!


Instead of just bashing cops go out and befriend one or some one who has been in the military and gone through the procedures for crowd/riot control. They never know who's going to be the idiot that pulls a gun or throws a punch at them so every similar situation is approached in the same manner and it's the reaction of the subject that dictates how the encounter goes from there.

The crowd was clearly initially gathering to simply see the spectacle of a loud-mouthed unruly brat making an ass of himself. It became an unruly mob as a direct result of the officers' behaviour.

In different circumstances their action may have been correct, but part of their job ought to be to discern situations where there is no conceivable threat from those where force is called for. It is patently clear that in this case the officers used tactics not commiserate with the situation.

Stump: Address them and ask yourself 'as a cop what would I do in that situation?

I take issue with the following set of facts:

1) Cops are treated as super-citizens with special powers, and special punishments provisioned for any who step to them.

2) Cops are allowed to react like regular humans.

They're either magical precious heroes, or they're not. If they are, I expect more from them in the way of judgment and behavior. If they're not, then let's stop having two-inch headlines and special prison sentences when someone dares lay hands on an 'officer'.

I ain't never gonna be late with a library book again