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| | | Interesting stuff on this from the blog of a pissed off first amendment lawyer.
Apparently the wife of Rep. Young (R-FL) was also ejected for wearing a 'Support the Troops' t-shirt. | | | |
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| | | Sheehan was arrested and held for 4 hours: what sort of treatment did Beverly Young receive? | | | |
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| | | I believe it's called a 'dress code'. | | | |
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| | | Why the hell would you wear a t-shirt to such a stately event anyway? Have a little bit of class. | | | |
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| | | A sombrero would be cool. | | | |
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| | | (I have the bruises and muscle spasms to prove it)
Muscle spasms? How the fuck do you get muscle spasms from that? | | | |
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| | | Talk about being full of yourself. | | | |
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| | | Sheehan is a twat of epic proportions. Too bad she wasnt draw and quartered. | | | |
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| | | Sheehan is a twat of epic proportions.
Really? Great! Please homer, tell us why. | | | |
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| | | oh homer. your tampon string is showing. | | | |
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| | | Those fishy-smelling red clots are the dried blood of HOT-HEARTED TR00 AMERICAN PATROLTISM YO! | | | |
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| | | I was not aware that there was a 'Dress Code' written into law that requires people dress according what someone else has deemed to be appropriate.
Whether or not a T-shirt is appropriate is not the issue, being arrested for wearing one is.
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| | | House rules bar demonstrations in the galleries.
It's the rules. | | | |
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| | | Whether or not a T-shirt is appropriate is not the issue, being arrested for wearing one is.
I think they're both valid issues. They're just of wildly different importance. Wearing a t-shirt to the SOTU is pretty tacky, and tactically unsound. I'd wear a wetsuit and some foul cologne.
HAHA NOT REALLY. Jerks. Whether or not it constitutes 'demonstration' is debatable. Getting arrested for it is plain odious, and maybe illegal. | | | |
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| | | Depending on how you feel about this, you might think that she's a cunt. | | | |
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| | | I think she's maybe a bit simple. | | | |
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| | | I was not aware that there was a 'Dress Code' written into law that requires people dress according what someone else has deemed to be appropriate.
Wow. Ever been to a public school? | | | |
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| | | Wow. Ever been to a public school?
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| | | HOMER! WE HUNGER FOR YOUR CLOTS OF TRUTH! | | | |
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| | | protip: a display of clothing doesn't qualify as a demonstration | | | |
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| | | Washington Post article on the fallout. My favorite graf:
'Young said he wouldn't be so mad if it were just Sheehan. 'I totally disagree with everything she stands for,' he said. But by removing his wife, Gainer's officers clearly 'acted precipitously,' Young said.'
This part is weird:
'Gainer said he also would ask that charges against Sheehan -- she was arrested; Beverly Young left before it came to that -- be dropped.'
No account of this that I've seen has indicated that Sheehan was given an opportunity to 'leave before it came to that', but then the Washington Post has been pretty sloppy lately. | | | |
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| | | I'm sorry she lost her son.
She has a right to be hurt, upset.
She has a right to say whatever she wants to say and I'd defend that to the death. That said, I think she is playing the martyr and I find her annoying.
I'm tired of her face in the news. I wish she would just shut up - likely in the same way all of the anti-war peeps wich Bush would shut up/go away. As such I think she is a twat (the same way the aforementioned peeps think Bush is a twat of epic proportions).
Hugs and kisses,
Homer
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| | | Sense lies within, in portions. It must be teased forth, like the hairball from a recalcitrant housecat with a piece of string. (Fecal bomber.) | | | |
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| | | Doesn't matter if its a law. That's just splitting hairs. You still gotta respect the rules. | | | |
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| | | 'hairball'? 'recalcitrant housecat'?
You rock Vas! | | | |
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| | | Mofo and SN: Yup, breaking the rules should get you ejected. Not arrested.
HOMER! YAY!: I feel the same way about scads of people I see on tv and elsewhere. I think my twat proportion scale is different from yours, though. If Bush is an epic twat (and why not use the perfect benchmark?), then she is a rather sad-faced frumpy pedestrian twat.
The argument that she wants to be perceived as a martyr or is just out there advancing her liberal political agenda makes no sense to me. 'Hey, my son is dead. Great! I can use this to charge up the liberal base and rally freaks to the people's cause! Hey hey ho ho!' simply produces too much cognitive dissonance.
I don't want Bush to 'just go away'. I want to watch him be held in contempt of Congress, tried and convicted. And then given away as a prize prison bride to Benny the Goatfucker. | | | |
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| | | That's so much better than when Eddie Van Halen did it. | | | |
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| | | I just got Rosie a 'Pro America = Anti Bush' Jersey. She wears it everywhere. More people give her hugs and handshakes, stop her and ask where she got it (cafe press), and oddest of all, if she's raising money for the cause and if she wants a donation (more than once). People want to do something about this fucker; they just don't know what to do, or are afraid to do it them selves. when they see someone speak out, its amazing to see how many others come forth and say that they feel the same. That's what scares the whole Bush machine. If enough people wear their feelings in public, it will be known that the media image is a complete lie and it will be over for the whole facade. More of us are against the powers that are raping our nation than they will ever admit, and their biggest fear is that we will find out how large our numbers are. As long as we, as individuals, feel that we are alone and powerless, doomed to depend on theese fascist bastards for protection, we will sit in our houses under their rule. It was only a few decades back that I was unafraid to march in the streets to get the 18 year old vote for you people, the war in Viet Nam ended, Nixon impeached, and even the pot laws changed. Now, the fear of digital identification from street survailience is real, where jackbooted thugs come in the night to roust you from your beds in your homes for attending public meetings in the library about peace or gatherings mouning the war dead. Signing a petition is an admission of guilt, and to question a law that takes away your constitutional rights is treason, giving them the right to 'disappear' your ass forever without a trial or a trace. It has become the Red China of the 50's, the Russia of the Cold War. We are the enemy. And the worst part, the part that seems to have been forgotton by all, is that WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT! WE THE PEOPLE!
Let's do something about it. Or are you all chicken? Or apathetic? | | | |
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| | | I've been to Los Osos. I've grew up in the Central Coast Area of California. Los Osos isn't the whole world. I highly recommend you look outside your bubble and realize this Goverment has MUCH support in other areas of the United States. It's highly possible that the that you are in the minority. And all the rallies and self-rightous tears in the world will not sway them into believing in anything but their Christian Values or fat pocketbooks. | | | |
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| | | WEEE SHALL OOVERCUUUUM! WEEE SHALL OOVERCUUUUM....
Help me believe.
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| | | Did Crom not give you strength in your sword arm and fire in your gut? Cover yourself in glory, or do not. | | | |
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| | | Beachgoat: you say you want a revolution? | | | |
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| | | Nah, I guess not. I wanna beer and a nap. | | | |
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| | | And I've been to Los Osos too. Don't care for it much. Sure wouldn't want to live there. Its horrible, nothing but sand. I'm from Cayucos, but have lived in the real world before. In 53 years, I have actually ben exposed to other people more than once, believe it or not, and expressed my veiws, and my belief in the country is not unsupported. Just because there a few bible thumping ignoramouses clumped in a vocal and intimidating group here and there in the midwest doesn't mean that the whole country is polorized that way. We are the government (we the people), and the bozos in the White House now are transitory. All it takes is patience, not rallies and tears, and the people will become angry and disillusioned with whoever is in office, be it GOP or DEM. That's the best part of being a conservative non-partisan American: I vote for my country, not for a party representitive. I vote for issues and laws. When I see an idiot elected into power that is doing harm to the people who entrusted him to do the will and betterment of their home district, I speak out against him, regardless of affiliation. Nothing makes me feel as frustrated as when i get labled as a democrat or a liberal simply because I am against Bush and his unsound and dishonest policies. If it was Clinton or Nader or Oprah doing the same thing I would shout just as loudly. I don't understand the need to compartmentalize and label ideas, unless its for the soul purpose of perpetuating their preduces.
Oh, those silly, blind, scared, hate filled folks! There's one of them down there burning churches this week for just that reason. | | | |
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Mofo and SN: Yup, breaking the rules should get you ejected. Not arrested.
Yea, but the Secret Service can make arrests for anything. Thats why you don't fuck around when your near the Pres. | | | |
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| | | Beachgoat: Thanks for making yourself clearer. It's just, I was pretty dissapointed when he got re-elected. 'America' sent me a powerful message. The aIternative choice wasn't much better either, I guess. I believe 'we the people' will continue to manipulated by whatever doesn't directly affect them. There seems to be a sense of an all-consuming isolationism in regard to our fellow man in America. So many distractions, so many reasons not to care than ever before. The real fight is against ourselves first... to not only quietly harbor a desire for change in our hearts but act on it in our lives.
I'm encouraged by you and vlad.
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| | | Mofo: she was nabbed by the capitol police, not the secret service. | | | |
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