Great Article

Fucking arabs...


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Arabs in a racist France. Which disadvantaged minority in your home town?
This could so easily happen in any western nation, especially one with an apparently uncaring government. If the poor and disadvantaged are left to fend for themselves whilst the government appears to support the wealthy, giving tax breaks or other benefits to those who don't need them at the expense of those who do, this will happen. It may take a while, but it will happen.
It is called civil war ( or disobedience ) or revolution, depending on which side you are on, and which side wins.

No, it couldn't happen here...they'd have gotten the smackdown about 11.5 days ago.

If you look around at the dozens of hotspots across the globe, you'll find a large group of brown people standing in the center of most of them. Furthermore, most of those brown people aren't even indigenous to the areas in which they're raising hell.

Two critical mistakes France has made since the 50's that contribute to their impending doom: Firstly, they are very lax in immigration laws as they pertain to people of middle eastern decent. Secondly, they haven't figured out in the last 40 or so years that they can't maintain an economy by paying the Arabs they let into the country to just sit in cafés all day, smoking cigarettes and sipping espresso.

The best thing the world could have ever done was run a fence around the entire Middle East, drill in a few hundred thousand megatons, and let those violent, rabid fuks sort it all out in 50 or 60 thousand years...

Are you trying to tell me that there are no large groups of disadvantaged brown people in the USA ? 'Cos I don't believe it. I also don't believe that the disadvantaged people in the centre of the potential hotspot need neccessarily to be brown. A sufficient number of people of any race ( or all races together ) who are concentrated into one ( or several ) relatively small areas, who feel that they have no potential to improve their lives or standing in the greater community, and who feel they have no control over those lives or their future, will eventually rebel. It happened in the USA in the '50's & '60's, with the civil disobedience of the Civil Rights Movement, and it has the had the potential to start in the more recent past ( remember the LA riots ? ). All it takes is one spark, to set the wildfire burning.
As for giving them the smackdown, where does most of the military ( who would have to do the smacking ) come from ? I think it would be true to say that the majority of those in the lower ranks ( ie those who would be in the front lines ) have used the services as an attempt to escape the ghetto's, and therefore would be very reluctant to apply the neccessary force to their families and friends, or to those fighting the same things that they themselves are trying to escape. Mutinies have started for less, and then carried revolutions.

I dunno. Wasn't the LA rioting composed mostly of blacks?

Also, I don't think that the armed services are made up mostly of minorities. I could be wrong, but I grew up on Navy and Marine bases, and I never noticed an unusual ratio. In fact, if anything, it was mostly Iowa farmboys.

LA was mostly blacks- that is part of my point.

I am not suggesting that the armed forces a made up of minority groups entirely, but that the majority of the enlisted ranks are from disadvantaged areas or come from a level fairly low on the socio-economic scale. Also, I suspect that things have changed somewhat in the 10 or so years since you were on base.( I used the term 'ghetto' in an illustrative sense rather than as a literal reference ).

Great article, thanks.

FYI clavis, you will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

for what it's worth, this is more about disenfranchisement than about 'brown people'.

where's fucking turk when you need him, hunh?

Why can't we all just get along?

I guess because some of us are brown.

awesome article, blubbs.

dstaff: LA was mostly blacks- that is part of my point.

I thought your point was countering Clavis' statement that browns are the trouble, cause you said this:

I also don't believe that the disadvantaged people in the centre of the potential hotspot need neccessarily to be brown.

Maybe I misunderstood you?



I am not suggesting that the armed forces a made up of minority groups entirely, but that the majority of the enlisted ranks are from disadvantaged areas or come from a level fairly low on the socio-economic scale.

I think that's very true. In fact, a pet half-assed theory of mine (again, based on a childhood of lazily observing the armed forces in their natural habitat) is that to a large extent -- not at all total, but larger than it should be -- the armed forces are the last refuge of folks who have nowhere else to go.

This is of course a generalization. I've got many fine friends who are or were enlisted. But there's definitely a thick undercurrent of scum, like anything else, I suppose.


Also, I suspect that things have changed somewhat in the 10 or so years since you were on base.

Dunno. Don't see why it would. I also don't think it's safe to assume that servicemen tend to sympathize with civilians as a trend. Especially in our current cultural atmosphere.

Maybe we're splitting hairs.

Maybe Clavis can provide some behind-the-scenes insight.

France has major cultural issues. The US, for the most part, is letting its hispanic assimilate more or less happily, with some major acceptions. You can't forget that the whole population of Europe is declining-the majority of them have negative growth rates. Immigration kept many parts of their economy afloat-at multiple tiers since WWII.

'Furthermore, most of those brown people aren't even indigenous to the areas in which they're raising hell.'

Why do they have to be? If the country is abandoning its social programs they have reason enough to riot from a psychological perspective. Is native status a requirement for rioting? Going into convenient Native American examples is tempting but I'll avoid.

'Secondly, they haven't figured out in the last 40 or so years that they can't maintain an economy by paying the Arabs they let into the country to just sit in cafés all day, smoking cigarettes and sipping espresso.'

Maybe I'm just taking things to seriously, but this seems to me a massive generalization bordering on racism. Countries like france don't have a great deal of control anymore who comes into their country and works there. Capital and people are becoming free-flowing. They have their constitutional rights to sit around and sip espresso all day-can't do shit about it. What France has to worry about is making these people a honest part of their country rather than a disenfranchised minority. Mexico is taking over the western unites states in revenge for lost territory and lives-maybe Algeria is doing the same thing to France.

'drill in a few hundred thousand megatons, and let those violent, rabid fuks sort it all out in 50 or 60 thousand years...'

From 1980's and early 90's Iraq, to actions in Iran, Afghanistan Russia war, major support of Israeli military ambitions and a long line of other shit, those 'violent, rabid fuks' are US. We need their oil or our fuel-driven society collapses- and we do nothing in the way of helping the conflicts save aproaching the major one from a violent, rabid zionist stance. No hand-shaking bullshit ever amounted to anything because we wouldn't stand by elementary international law with Israel or anyone else. Ok thats all.

Acheron- well said Dude.

Vasudeva - You are correct as far it goes about the brown people comment, but the LA reference was more to show that it could happen in the US as easily as anywhere else.

I agree that the armed forces are not particularly sympathetic to the civillian population, but I believe that most of those enlisted men would draw the line at opening fire on that same civillian population. The ones holding the riot would be to close to home for them to be comfortable.

Probably.

But not if they were all zombies.

News break. Just In. France has surrendered.