acheronFri Aug 05
 
I don't understand what republicans are for anymore
 
 
PhlebasFri Aug 05
 
coke and hookers...
no wait, that's me.
 
 
DonQuixoteFri Aug 05
 
^^ You ARE GW?!?!?! I thought so.
 
 
PhlebasFri Aug 05
 
Hah, not quite, but at least I can still put a human face on the monster. Who doesn't like coke and hookers? It's good to share attributes with your overlords.
 
 
hokashayhonaqutFri Aug 05
 
Diet coke, rapalas and whiskey.
 
 
nocalFri Aug 05
 

I don't understand what republicans are for anymore


Right at the start of GW's second term I wondered the same. 'Republicans' (big R) today aren't for what republicans stand for. They're basically Republicrats.
 
 
phlebasFri Aug 05
 
that sounds pretty Green Party nocal. The problem is that you are completely right (not to detract from your incredible rightness). I think the two parties may now work together for the 'greater good', that definition which is to fed modern society by the ruling class. Our gubernmennt is not our own, it is simply a statistical judgment of a group driven by power, little swayed by any loss other than monetary and incredibly filmable.
 
 
DonQuixoteFri Aug 05
 
You know we talk alot. Americans who have brains and dislike bush. But what have we got to show for all our intelligence? No prez. No healthcare. No scripts for the elderly. Not even a compromise. When are we going to stoop to their level and try to win an election, not just beat the other guy? We need to change the game cauyse we keep losing the one they are playing. Sorta like batman when he wouldn't kill bad guys. You just hoped he'd kick some ass. In the new comix he does but they aren't the mainstream. Oh well. I give up on this political stuff via political platforms. Jon stewart has had more success on a comedic satire show than the whole DNP had together.
 
 
phlebasFri Aug 05
 
sfw is maybe humnaz. Satire is the last human bastion, no? Without this, we are throwing ourselves into the grinder without the tip of one middle finger.
 
 
acheronFri Aug 05
 
'When are we going to stoop to their level and try to win an election,'

The left is fragmented and without vision. If we can't get it together to win an election we don't deserve to. When we have a candidate we believe in I think we will. We have to be honest about the last election:

Kerry sucked, Gephart sucked, Sharpton was funny but wasn't going to win, Kucinich was never going to get even 20% of the Dem vote, Lieberman sucked the most of all and the 'leading' centrist neoliberal endorsed him (TNR), stupid woman whatever sucked, Dean folded under the pressure and was never going to gain the establishments vote (The NYT 'liberal outlet' railed against him daily). Picking Edwards as Veep was the most BS political move I've ever seen, an idiotic half-assed gesture to attempt to win the south that failed the second it was conceived.

Clark and Dean had a chance, in my opinion, but Clark was too wooden and who sabotaged Dean?? The left and the 'liberal' media, because they thought he was too anti-war and extreme.

The left rallied around Kerry, but relunctantly. VERY relunctantly. Who hadn't heard of 'JohnKerryisadouchebagbutvoteforhimanyway.com? What does that tell you about how much the voters liked him?? If the DNC gives a candidate the left and center can be proud of, we'll win an election. If not, not.
 
 
phlebasFri Aug 05
 
sfw is maybe humnaz. Satire is the last human bastion, no? Without this, we are throwing ourselves into the grinder without the tip of one middle finger.
 
 
phlebasFri Aug 05
 
Acheron, you are correctkt! YOU WIN 30+ CREDIT POINTS in the phlebas infodocu. The problem we have, however, is this: we cannot, now, at this point, without further analysis of data, figure out how we have been duped into this major shitstorm of death and financial decay that is our current National State.
Butch will deplete souls and funds to further his creation of definitions of the State,
 
 
dragonstaffFri Aug 05
 
This over-spending by the GOP members of Congress is nothing more than a cynical vote-buying spree for the elections next year. It will, of course, be extremely successful, because every voter will only see the new roads and improved schools etc. and will ignore the fact the country is going broke to pay for them. I know, the same thing happens here.

It is called 'Bread and Circuses' and was developed into high art by the Romans.
 
 
phlebasSat Aug 06
 
Truedat. I, being a sic pup on the teet of Americorporate have no true judgement against these wrongs . My mortgage is paid by federL dollar$. Flay me as you will, But my personal cynisism lays intact.
 
 
phlebasSat Aug 06
 
Truedat. I, being a sic pup on the teet of Americorporate have no true judgement against these wrongs . My mortgage is paid by federL dollar$. Flay me as you will, But my personal cynisism lays intact.
 
 
phlebasSat Aug 06
 
godswarm doublepost-hackinswarmgwelfwartay...
 
 
acheronSat Aug 06
 
I don't think the bread and circuse analogy really applies. The Senators threw events like that to keep the superfluous classes out of the way-fed so they wouldn't revolt. Pork barrel shit like this is more like the senators throwing a circus for themselves-it benefits their districts and their corporate constituents, but not really the voters themselves. no one is paying attention to what the house does-once the recession hits they will be, but thats probably about 2 years away.
 
 


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