Mike Turner: 'Staying The Course Isn't An Option'
Mike Turner, Military analyst, dissects Iraq war

by acheron 1179 Reads
on Tue Sep 28 2004 Add to your ClipSwarm
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azron123Tue Sep 28
 
This is the first realistic analysis that I've seen.

Frightening but probably accurrate.
 
 
nocalTue Sep 28
 
what does he know anyway; he's just a military analyst
 
 
azron123Tue Sep 28
 
It's a military situation
 
 
dragonstaffWed Sep 29
 
Very scary stuff. Our P.M. is following the same path for the same reasons as Dubya and he is being very loud about it.
I believe the real reason is to let them circumvent constitutional rights and personal freedoms in the general population ( you and me ) in the name of internal security. Our boys have been trying to introduce a universal I.D. system for years and this could be the hook to land it on. After that comes restrictions on travel, starting with external exit and entry and moving on to internal ( crossing state borders or moving from town to town ) . The U.S.S.R. used a violent revolution to accomplish this but the right wing ( fascists ) tend to do it by stealth. They get themselves elected and then slowly change the rules so that we can't get rid of them.

As for Iraq, this is obviously going to become another Vietnam. The only answer is to pull the troops out and exterminate the terrorists by whatever means are available. Unfortunately this probably means that the above mentioned travel restrictions plus a lot more are going to become necesary.

We lose.
 
 
IHateRegisteringWed Sep 29
 
He must be one of them book reading types the Bushistas claim are Unmurkan.
 
 
dragonstaffWed Sep 29
 
Of course they are un-american! They might work out the truth! Worse, they may SPEAK the truth!The nazi-types hiding behind Dubya and pulling his strings do NOT want that to happen! If they could repeal the first amendment they would ( along with the rest ) . Watch for 'emergency measures' restricring the media, and the net . See the link a few days ago about Dan Rather.
 
 
acheronWed Sep 29
 
People keep forgetting: for the most part we are not dealing with terrorists in Iraq. We are dealing with pissed off Iraqis who are upset because we killed maybe 20,000 or more of their men women and children. Just remember, there wasn't any Al Quaeda until we tore the place apart and opened it up to terrorism.
 
 
azron123Wed Sep 29
 
True.
 
 
dragonstaffWed Sep 29
 
I think this deserves a forum.

The restrictions start! Even citizens of Dubya's 'best little buddy' , ( us ) now need to provide prints and a digital mug shot on entry, that are processed electronically while we wait to check that we are who we claim before we can enter.
This is beside the point that we do not need a visa. This is done whilst we are filling out the visa waiver form.
 
 
johnclelandThu Sep 30
 
that's because of all the crazy muslims in the UK that are citizens. if you all cleaned your act up over there you wouldn't need the mugshot
 
 
dragonstaffThu Sep 30
 
John, I am not talking about the UK, I am talking about Australia. Check the forum entitled ' The rise and rise of Nazi America ' for futher information.
 
 
johnclelandThu Sep 30
 
it was the 'best little buddy' thing. I get confused between the uk and australia when they don't clearly identify themselves, specially 'cos they all have the queen on the money. i have the same problem with isreal, except it doesn't have the queen anymore.

all these friends, who says the US is an international pariah?
 
 


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