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Return of the Winter Soldier: Iraq Vets Prepare Atrocity Testimony

By Erin Thompson
From the February 4, 2008 issue | Posted in National | Email this article

A scene from Winter Soldier, the 1971 documentary about Vietnam Veterans who testified about atrocities they saw or committed.

During the fifth anniversary of the Iraq invasion in March, there will not be hundreds of thousands of people mobilizing in the streets of Washington, D.C., for another afternoon protest. That’s because Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) has asked antiwar groups not to stage a D.C. mass demonstration from March 13-16.

Instead, the IVAW hopes that antiwar activists and the media will help amplify the voices of veterans and active-duty soldiers, who will testify during those four days about the atrocities they committed or witnessed while serving in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

During the series of panels, multimedia presentations and testimony, more than 45 current and former soldiers plan to describe the indiscriminate killing and injuring of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, the use of chemical weapons, the torture and killing of detainees, rape — within the military itself and against Iraqi civilians — the denial of medical care to the injured and the mutilation of the dead, and other war crimes. Iraqi and Afghani civilians, as well as reporters not embedded with the military, are scheduled to verify many of the stories that will be described by the soldiers.

The goal of hearings, named the Winter Soldier Investigation: Iraq and Afghanistan, after the 1971 Vietnam-era investigation of the same name, is to show that systematic government policies are to blame for the myriad atrocities in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“It’s easy for the military to ostracize soldiers. We want to demonstrate that the policies that are set at the highest level are what’s creating the reality on the ground,” said New York City IVAW chapter President Jose Vasquez. “Soldier after soldier, rotation after rotation, these policies are what’s creating the environment in which these atrocities occur.”

“When other vets are willing to discuss some of the negative things, it shows people that it is not just an isolated event,” said Michael Harmon, a U.S. Army veteran who served in Iraq from 2003 to 2004. Harmon pointed to the standard operating procedure of shooting any Iraqi civilian carrying a shovel at night, “because they might have been planting IEDs” and the impunity afforded to soldiers who killed civilians as examples of policies that lead to atrocities.

Harmon remembers watching U.S. soldiers shoot a 2-year-old girl in the leg. “An IED went off and soldiers starting spraying bullets in all directions. The little girl was caught in the crossfire while driving in her family car.”

Harmon, who has coped with substance abuse issues since leaving the military in 2005, was one of the first members of IVAW to be interviewed for the hearings, despite the fact that, “I don’t like to think about the war when I don’t have to. It is just a horrible, misguided debacle.”

While IVAW is taking inspiration and learning from the 1971 Winter Soldier Investigation, they acknowledge that they are dealing with a “a different world, a different war,” said Vasquez. To collect testimony, IVAW initially based their questions on the 1971 questionnaire. However, they soon found that many of the questions needed to be updated; the questionnaire is now more than nine pages long, after starting at only two. They are also taking steps to provide psychological counseling to any soldier who testifies, in the hopes of avoiding the sharp increase in suicides that occurred after the 1971 testimonies.

In addition, in 1971, when Vietnam veterans holed up in a Detroit motel to describe a litany of atrocities they had experienced and carried out during the U.S. war in Southeast Asia, there was a near media blackout. A documentary film was eventually created using the testimony, but “had there not been a documentary, I don’t think we’d even know about the [1971 investigation],” said Vasquez.

In this age of instant communication and prolific independent media, IVAW has put out a call to artists, journalists, filmmakers and other media makers to help spread testimony from the hearings.

While IVAW hopes that the experiences of soldiers will help inform the public and politicians’ ideas about the reality of the war, the group’s strategy is mainly on reaching those who can most directly stop the war: active-duty soldiers and their families.

“Our target audience is GIs,” said Vasquez, who explained that by fomenting resistance within the military and within military families, IVAW is in a unique position to undermine the continuation of U.S. war policies. “We thought long and hard about what are we best positioned to do, we realized that there are very few antiwar organizations that have the ability to do outreach among the GIs.”

IVAW will hold a New York Winter Soldier benefit Feb. 21, 6-9pm at the New York Ethical Culture Society, 2 West 64th Street at Central Park West. $10 suggestion donation, free for all veterans. For more information, or if you are a media maker that wants to get involved, visit ivaw.org or email wintersoldier@ivaw.org.

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10 Responses to “Return of the Winter Soldier: Iraq Vets Prepare Atrocity Testimony”

rochester_veteran Says:

I’m a Vietnam Era Veteran and had to live with being shunned by people of my own age group due to the lies and fabrications of the original Winter Soldier in 1971. I’ll be in Washington DC, along with thousands of Veterans and Patriots to stand up defend the honor of our military from the malignment that will surely come from Winter Soldier 2008!

Absolutely nothing good came of the original Winter Soldier (which was full of pretenders and lies) and nothing good will come from this version of the same old BS! All these malcontents are doing is crapping on their fellow veterans and active duty soldiers!

http://rochesterconservative.com/blog/eagles_muster/

Veterans and Patriots will be in Washington DC by the thousands, standing shoulder to shoulder by the thousands defending the honor of our warriors from the malignment of Winter Soldier 2008, that is a promise!

NYC Vet Says:

Vets from all eras don’t get treated like heros.
That isn’t becasue of Winter Soldier, that is because we think we are serving for a great cause while the majority of the American people could care less.

Stop blaming Winter Soldier for peopel not respecting you as a vet. Most peopel never hear dof WS, they just don’t give a damn about you.

One of the few groups that actually cares about Vets is IVAW. You don’t agree with their politics but how many people out there think about this war EVERY day.

Pro-war people are not the enemy of IVAW, this war is.

rochester_veteran Says:

Sorry, NYC Vet, I disagree with you. Vietnam Era Vets were painted as mass murderers responsible for atrocities committed against civilians and that this was a common practice by the US Military in Vietnam and SOP. Those were the lies of the original Winter Soldier. It did no good whatsoever and ruined the reputations of a generation of veterans.

The IVAW took a page from VvAW and is modeling Winter Soldier 2008 after the original, even using the name. They plan on doing the same.

This present generation of veterans will be treated like heroes and my generation of Vietnam Era Veterans will see to it that the malignment that’s passed off as “testimony” of Winter Soldier 2008 will be challenged and there will be thousands of us in Washington DC, March 13-16, taking part in the defense of the honorable warriors that defend us.

Never again shall one generation of veterans abandon another.

Kathy Says:

War is hell. That was never in question. Innocent civilians along with the guilty (in this case also civilians since there is no “army” we are fighting) die, are caught in cross fires.

Before putting to much value on what IVAW plans to “reveal”, NYC Vet may want to take some time to research just who the members are and why they are willing to put the lives of their fellow servicemen in jeporady by “testifying”. Jesse McBeth is a good example of the calibur of members.

We will be in DC in March to see to it that IVAW’s BS campaign is thoroughly discredited.

AK Says:

Yes, war is hell. Therefore any atrocity is justified. Thus September 11 was just one small inconsquential battle and nothing changed that day. In fact if 3,000 or 3 million Americans die in one day, it doesn’t really matter. They’re just “caught in cross fires.” (sic)

Stephan Larose Says:

Look, pro-war vets need not be paranoid that everyone is going to spread lies and dishonor them. However, both Vietnam and Iraq saw huge amounts of war crimes committed. In Vietnam over 2 million died, in Iraq the number may be over a million. All this for the 3000 that died in the 9/11 attack, an attack planned and executed by Saudi Arabians? Do the lives of people outside the U.S. have no value? Is “collateral damage” such a panacea of an excuse that it justifies genocide? In the case of Iraq, both Dennis Halliday and Hans Von Sponeck quit the U.N. to protest the U.S.’s genocidal policies, you can look it up. What all the vets need to know is this, its the leadership that is dishonorable for leading America’s young men in women into a this horrific debacle, which has absolutely nothing to do with defending America, and everything to do with maintaining the power and influence of certain people and corporations. Don’t let yourselves be duped into defending these criminal monsters, if it is honor you are concerned about, stand up to defend the U.S. Constitution and the U.N. Charter which so many died to protect and uphold in WWI and WWII, that’s honorable. Put the War Criminals on trial, Winter Veterans 2008, the world supports you!

Donkey Punch Says:

Never underestimate Conservatives and the military when it comes to disinformation.

Now the best way to cover up the truth is to create your own internet wackos spreading disinformation because you know that someone will eventually reveal the truth. The public can’t tell the difference between lies and the truth and everyone gets grouped together into the “tin hat” crowd. They create as much “noise” as possible so the real message is lost.

Marine79 Says:

I’ve been a Marine for over 10 years, and I’ve been following this online magazine for the past 6-7 months, and I don’t think there is a more dishonest publication out there than the Indypendent. To those who say that our service members are committing atrocities and that our policies are genocidal: you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. The majority of Muslims that were killed in this war were killed by other Muslims (ie, suicide bombers, shiites killing sunnis, and vice versa). We are over there to stop that from happening. Most of our veterans are doing noble things over there. It is true that there are some that have committed crimes, but those are being punished to the full extent of the law. I respect the service of IVAW, but I cannot respect the fact that they are betraying their brothers and sisters in arms by painting us all as criminals.

As far as the UN goes, I cannot respect an organization that abandoned hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians to die in places like Rwanda and Srebrenica. The UN has proven that it is worthless.

Your ass rides in navy equipment Says:

Marine proves the old dictum that Marine stands for “Muscles are Required; Intelligence Non Essential”

Not So Dumb Says:

We all know(whether we admit it or not)that atrocities have occured in Iraq. And not just the ones that are highly publicized. The higher-ups stay out of trouble but the soldiers get the shaft. Is there really anyone who really believes that the U.S. doesn’t torture their prisoners? How the heck do you think they get their info? Just walk up to the prisoner and say “we need to know about this” and the prisoner smiles and says “sure, whatever you need, i’ll tell you”? If your not in that country fighting that war, you tend to be a little disassociated from what is really going on. Even if you have a loved one that fought, or is still fighting in Iraq, we are afraid for them and pray for their safe return, but still we cannot even imagine what they are going through. I had a loved one who fought in Iraq, and one day, after he had returned home he told me “no one can understand what i’m going through. So I say let them have their winter warior affair and then we listen and learn and i believe the majority will be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. Because as we all know, where there’s smoke, there’s fire. and sometimes the fire is more terrible than we want to believe it was,

But the most important thing is, no matter if you are for or against the iraq war, our soldiers are what are important..they need our support and our prayers, and need to have the knowledge that the people support them .THEY MOST CERTAINLY HAVE MINE!!!

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