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1/19/2008 at 19:25 |
You know what I'm talking about. There's an increasing trend toward non-participation around here the past couple months.
It's sad to see, and it encourages me to work on other things instead of putting effort into something I increasingly suspect doesn't really matter much in the long run. I don't want to give up on this if it's worthwhile -- and am certainly not planning to give up on it completely -- but it's hard to tell if there's really an audience for what we're doing here or if there's just a couple of us masturbating into empty space.
Which is cool, too, but probably doesn't warrant the time I'm giving it. For just one example, I was making pretty good progress with the engine re-write til just before Christmas (though I didn't bump that Journal entry nearly as often as I was writing code), and now I'm having a hard time getting back into it, partly because I've got related work shit that's crowding out that area of my mind, but also because I suspect no one particularly gives a fuck, minus say LOki.
That's just one example, though. There are bigger things at hand than whether or not I spend time playing with code.
Apart from my development/administration efforts, a couple of you have mentioned this downtrend lately, and I know you're bummed to see shit kinda go quiet, so I thought I'd toss this out there and see what it does.
Your thoughts?
On 2008-01-19 at 13:35:18, vasudeva asked to smell your dick
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Crackalackin
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1/19/2008 at 19:40 |
I concur, a lot of cool people have gone silent. Such is life.
Gotta get new blood to pitch in links and discuss shit.
I was wondering about the engine rewrite, whether it will bring any new features.
I suspect a lot of the interaction happens on the IRC channel, and most of the visitors don't see it. Is there any way to incorporate that banter into the site?
I also think that a sudden bloom of other link-swapping sites with larger usebases and faster link churn rates did not bode well for LinkSwarm. I know that links here are of higher "quality," and quite distinct from what you'd see elsewhere. But I guess LS needs to get more users.
Unfortunately, I have no concrete ideas on how to get them because I just fuking woke up.
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Refusenik  SSHOLEPosts: 484 Registered: 3/8/2002 Offline
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1/19/2008 at 20:02 |
That was a rather gifted means of hamstringing me.
And I like ham.
And I'd like to be able to preview link comments.
I liek pie.
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1/19/2008 at 20:16 |
Don't know. It might just the ups and downs of any product life. I will say that I enjoy the hell out of LS and I greatly appreciate the efforts of the admins especially vasudeva . I can imagine it must take substantial chunks of time to keep this MoFo running as ship shape as it does. Vas- I wish I could add a more enlightened prognosis of your concerns , but it is a very subjective question you ask.
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BigDinWaunakee
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1/19/2008 at 20:28 |
Being a fairly recent LS member, but two year lurker, I suppose that the core group that seeded this baby is just getting older and presented with other life responsibilities and perhaps re-direction of their priorities and interests. It isn't saying that they aren't cool anymore, it is just that energy is being trasmitted to other efforts. Just imagine if the Creator is showing signs of wear and slight disinterest, what is it like for those with less of a connection/incentive. This isn't to diminish all that LS once was or saying its DOA, but that the past is just that... past. Maybe Vas needs to refocus the expectations or if he feels that this thing has run its course, then put it to bed and feel proud, chock full of fond memories. Hell, a break maybe the best thing, so you can break from the old. But if I were you, I wouldn't string it out, so newbies get a scent of poo wafting from a once great and respectible thing.
Compare X files to Seinfeld (barring the last episode)... one went out with disgusting memories and the other is just as sweet as the day it ended.
Anyway, I see my role in this whole LS thing as Igor to Vas and LK as Dr. Frankenstein. I just limp around and throw some switches, but they are the masters. And if the masters think that its time to hunt their creature into the arctic, then I can only believe that this is for the best.
In the end, they will learn from their last Creature and come back to the lab when they feel the time is right.
Peace.
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tantrum
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1/19/2008 at 21:07 |
I'd find it interesting to get a sense of the principals people think LinkSwarm has at it's root. In many ways this is a community founded on negative paradigms. How can we inspire participation when we consistently negate mediocre contributions?
For both new and old members, coming up with something that qualifies itself to LinkSwarm standard may be intimidating. It hard to define that standard, isn't it? It's like trying to explain something that makes you laugh or tastes good.
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dent
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1/19/2008 at 21:10 |
I know how you feel, Vas. I abandoned my own site because I got slightly bored and felt that maybe my users felt the same way. But, LS and BD are two different animals. LS is about the users, and BD was basically about me - pretty lame.
1. You never advertise
2. LS is not very inviting to newbs
3. Static design (for the 4 years I've been here)
4. I designed you an entire new site, which I still haven't seen, but understand.
5. News seems to hit Fark, Digg, CNN, and every other site a day or two before this one.
6. LS is ignoring the biggest part of daily news that a ton of hugely popular sites are catering to: celebrities.
7. Need more quality porn on a daily basis.
8. Entirely too many quality links are being rejected, and probably scaring off people submitting links.
Just some thoughts.
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It's insane, this guy's taint  SSHOLEPosts: 811 Registered: 8/25/2004 Offline
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1/19/2008 at 21:34 |
dent: I know how you feel, Vas. I abandoned my own site because I got slightly bored and felt that maybe my users felt the same way. But, LS and BD are two different animals. LS is about the users, and BD was basically about me - pretty lame.
1. You never advertise
2. LS is not very inviting to newbs
3. Static design (for the 4 years I've been here)
4. I designed you an entire new site, which I still haven't seen, but understand.
5. News seems to hit Fark, Digg, CNN, and every other site a day or two before this one.
6. LS is ignoring the biggest part of daily news that a ton of hugely popular sites are catering to: celebrities.
7. Need more quality porn on a daily basis.
8. Entirely too many quality links are being rejected, and probably scaring off people submitting links.
Just some thoughts.
this is really good, i think.
I'd find it interesting to get a sense of the principals people think LinkSwarm has at it's root. In many ways this is a community founded on negative paradigms. How can we inspire participation when we consistently negate mediocre contributions?
For both new and old members, coming up with something that qualifies itself to LinkSwarm standard may be intimidating. It hard to define that standard, isn't it? It's like trying to explain something that makes you laugh or tastes good.
this is also good, but of course much harder to implement.
i feel like this is some kind of a cycle for linkswarm. we get all bummed out at the non-participation, and then there's a surge in contributions, and everything is happy for a while.
i've been concerned about the participation levels for a while, but honestly, i thought things were looking up a little. it seems to me that better links are coming through, i thought that the phonecam thread was doing pretty well, and despite trying very hard there are some new people i have yet to scare off.
the neglected forum (you know which one i mean) is disappointing to me, but i honestly haven't added too much to it. i've been trying to spark discussion with the ron paul crap, but that just seems to be less productive than i would hope.
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1/19/2008 at 21:52 |
nocal: i've been trying to spark discussion with the ron paul crap, but that just seems to be less productive than i would hope.
Everyone loves a good blood-letting, and I've got so much blood to let; and everyone knows what makes the grass grow...
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1/19/2008 at 21:53 |
It's not that it's less productive, it's just that Ron Paul is a tool and NOC.
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Wotak
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1/19/2008 at 22:16 |
My slowed participation has nothing to do with LinkSwarm. I'm just busy right now. This is the busiest time of the year for me.
I don't want to half-ass participate because that's not appreciated and adds no value to the site. I'm trying to keep up with the queue and vote fairly. Sometimes that's all the time I have to spend. I try to submit something interesting as often as possible but when you don't spend a lot of time surfing, you don't run into much.
I think the core of this community has always been a bit tough for new users to wrap their heads around. I believe it scares away a lot potential users... I always thought that was a good thing. Sort of like a fag filter, but maybe it's not working with the younger, more emo web users. Or maybe they're all just fags.
I think there are a lot of things that could be added to the Swarm to bring in a more diverse crowd but is a more diverse crowd what LS needs?
Perhaps a Torrent tracker and rating system would draw some users?
I'm really into photography. I'd love to have a private photo Journal but could LS afford to host a lot of high quality photography?
I dunno, just throwing a couple things out there.
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nocal
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1/19/2008 at 22:27 |
wotak brings up a good point; i hadn't even considered the fact that we just passed through the holiday season. surely people are spending more time with family now.
I think there are a lot of things that could be added to the Swarm to bring in a more diverse crowd but is a more diverse crowd what LS needs?
it's a hard balance that tantrum touched on. do we want a ton of new users if they suck? do we scare off any potential good users? would more users just mean a lot of shitty content? hard to say.
It's not that it's less productive, it's just that Ron Paul is a tool and NOC.
i was hoping it would garner more interest and maybe spark some new threads. i read a good quote today: ron paul is like 'snakes on a plane': on the internet people go crazy, but no one gives a shit in real life. |
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tantrum
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1/20/2008 at 00:55 |
Someone a while back compared LS to an ongoing party. I like that comparison. So how do you facilitate a good party?
Or are we looking to apply more meaning to this gathering? Are we expecting something special out of our interaction?
One thing that's lacking here is immediate feedback, or in many cases any feedback at all. In many ways the system fails us. We crave the immediacy of face-to-face communication. Simple feedback takes time and effort on the internet. I can't tell you how many times I've read something here and responded somehow emotionally but failed to express it on the site. I'm afraid we are often all victims of this lost interaction.
If anything, I encourage you all to write something magical and faggot-like so I can laugh at you. |
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MistaCharisma
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1/20/2008 at 01:08 |
Content is the key, No content=no visitors, Content that only appeals to 5% of people=very little visitors. No one here=No forum posts and a generally all round quiet site.
The front page as of right now as I'm writing this.
Web Version Of Roland TR-909
Detroit Autoshow Pics
Build A Speaker Using Hard Drives
The Science Of Fuel Economy
etc etc.
In all theres maybe 5 links that interest me right now.
A lot of good stuff, maybe not to the elitist few, does not make it through the alpha queue which i also check a few times a day.
If a link has been submitted then the submitter has seen a need to submit that link, they have seen a need for it on the main page and felt the need to share. 3% of users on this site get to decide what the other 97% see on a daily basis. Any rejected link may appeal to half of the visitors to the site. Back to the math, More links=more people=more time spent on the site=more forum posts. Worried about what sort of crowd is attracted? Moderate the first ten posts by any user.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that everyone has a different taste in content, Why not try to cater for everyone? If you don't like a link in the queue think of what other people might like. The practice of auto rejecting youtube is a prime example, spend a day in irc and count how many youtube links are dropped into chat. How many of them would be right at home amongst "Who Is Getting Abortions In The U.S.?" and "The Very Strange Life Of Reclusive Superstar Daniel Day-Lewis".
Now that i have said that i suppose i am now a ghey shitstain unicorn loving retard in line with unofficial forum rules but it's just my 2 cents.
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1/20/2008 at 01:10 |
tantrum:
If anything, I encourage you all to write something magical and faggot-like so I can laugh at you.
Did i win?
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Wotak
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1/20/2008 at 01:28 |
^ Perhaps the AQ is a bit jaded?
Democracy + Internet could be just as fucked up as it is IRL.
Do you protect the status quo or embrace something new?
...and if new is the answer, then what?
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jwalker
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1/20/2008 at 01:41 |
More Linkswarm Jam forum would be nice.
But lately, all my LS time has been taken up reading the LOki/nocal debate; man, those guys are really going at it! We need more of that. How about a new forum category for debating sensative and controversial subjects?
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1/20/2008 at 02:29 |
Yes, much like a Point - Counterpoint forum. Could have a moderator and two or more designated participants on each side. Could have legit rules or break into a Jane Curtain - Akroyd free for all. Problem with this idea, which is cool mind you, is that we are saturated with this conceit on every television/cable channel.
Perhaps Vas could award some Alphas for free, or give out for free something that allows newbs to join into the voting process. Kinda like a loss leader, to spark participation. Give it an expiration date, say three months. If the person becomes a reg voter and contrib, then there is a higher chance that they will stay.
On a final note, every Christened LSer knows that this place is a tough joint, not for the faint of heart. That isn't a bad thing, because the process and atmosphere does tend to make the same type of criminal the last ones standing after their hazing. This isn't a criticism, but one can't be surprised by low participation and new blood when the odds of success are rather low to begin. The problem is, unlike the NFL and Special Forces, there isn't as strong of a demand to be a LS member.
To be honest, I come for the attitude and discourse, not the links... 'cause I can find them elsewhere. Best part are the comments, and rarely are they from me. The attitude and personalities are unique... So like most have said, what are we looking for in this joint? What draws you here? What makes you pony up the duckets to Vas? Once we have that pegged, Vas can see what the prevaling answers are.... perhaps in that data pile, it will become obvious of how this thing grew and where it will go.
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1/20/2008 at 02:43 |
If a link has been submitted then the submitter has seen a need to submit that link, they have seen a need for it on the main page and felt the need to share. 3% of users on this site get to decide what the other 97% see on a daily basis. Any rejected link may appeal to half of the visitors to the site. Back to the math, More links=more people=more time spent on the site=more forum posts. Worried about what sort of crowd is attracted? Moderate the first ten posts by any user.
i don't mean to sound like a dick, but if you had some experience in the alpha queue, you'd understand. there are always some people who are just now discovering the internet. they are submitting an ebaumsworld video of a guy from jackass getting hit in the nuts from 1998. some people think they are so good at internet marketing that we'll never figure out that their entire site is just youtube embeds, and they submit 3 rapid fire links of no consequence. some people are submitting dumb shit. i did a forum post on what may be the worst submission of all time: regulator swarmed a google search result for the term "beastie boys girls". what the fuck would anyone want with that?
i think what i'm trying to say is quality, not quantity.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that everyone has a different taste in content, Why not try to cater for everyone? If you don't like a link in the queue think of what other people might like. The practice of auto rejecting youtube is a prime example, spend a day in irc and count how many youtube links are dropped into chat. How many of them would be right at home amongst "Who Is Getting Abortions In The U.S.?" and "The Very Strange Life Of Reclusive Superstar Daniel Day-Lewis".
i think it's impossible to cater to everyone, and to try is to be a stupid head. but i don't think we're automatically rejecting youtube vids. i've seen a few on the front page. it's just that there are so fucking many, it better be good
i keep forgetting about this: FUCKING TEXTWARS. this was a good idea, but for whatever reason, we all forget about it. i think you ought to make it easier for us to textwar people. i honestly think it encourages a certain amount of participation. |
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1/20/2008 at 02:48 |
So the common beliefs for the lull are:
We are really mean and too much decent shit is being bounced out of the Q.
Maybe the ALL the voting alphas need to have a quick discussion on what we feel is worthy for readers and what is spam and or complete shit. Maybe all the voters need to be wrangled in every once in a while and reminded that this system is for everyone and not meant to be our own personal link databases, myself included.
As for being mean to people; maybe just lightening up on the newbs would be a simple and inviting fix.
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1/20/2008 at 03:59 |
I am very aware of my lack of participation and honestly it is due to little more than hot having enough hours in the day.
I do try to stay involved though #megarad, but like it has been stated, #megarad is NOT Linkswarm.
I think part of the attraction towards #megarad is the instant gratification and the more personal aspect of the smaller community. I don't think the answer is more participation in #megarad either since nine times out of ten, a new IRC member tends to shit the place up.
I agree with a lot of the comments already made here, but
ultimately, I think the cycle will come back around and activity will pick up.
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my balls your chin, get used to that idea  SSHOLEPosts: 935 Registered: 1/9/2005 Offline
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1/20/2008 at 05:45 |
Personally, I feel guilty for not being as active as I'd like to be.
But, life beckons.
And with recent employment changes and full time school accompanying such changes, my ability spend-tasty time on the swarm and contribute whole heartadly has been significantly reduced. 
Sadly, this will be the case for the next few months at least.
I love the ability to be somewhere and think "A few swarmers might trip or get a kick out of this shit"...so with this hurr, Im able to share such sweetness, and will continue to.
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1/20/2008 at 07:49 |
Fuck nocal let it go I was stoned when I submitted that link lay off will ya.
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Putting the semen in amusement  SSHOLEPosts: 1051 Registered: 7/8/2005 Offline
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1/20/2008 at 09:21 |
Regulator: Fuck nocal let it go I was stoned when I submitted that link lay off will ya.
being stoned is only an excuse for eating a whole bag of chips, losing your keys, or being really good at guitar.
WOTAKTAKTA: I'm really into photography. I'd love to have a private photo Journal but could LS afford to host a lot of high quality photography?
I believe there is a forum section for this very thing. However, I will not link it, for a man must find his own way.
As for participation n shit:
Pandering to the web junkies with articles on Posh Spice's pussy surgery, or pages of some 18 year old girl showing her tits to pay for baby formula may work. However, that's teetering on the fine line of selling your soul to internet satan.
A change of scenery would do a lot of good, in my opinion ('imo', to those I loathe), and wouldn't be akin to selling out in almost any form. This theme is nice. It's simple, it doesn't take forever to load, and it's easy on the ol' oculars. But, sadly, it seems to be the lighter themed sites that get all the pussy these days. I'm not saying make this place look like reddit or some shit, but some catchier visuals could definitely grab at people. People are dumb, shiny things work.
As for personal contributions... I submit links rarely. This is because I have this unwritten guide of what is 'swarm worthy' that's been silently crapping in my brain as I surf the sweet waves of the internets. These cross-hairs are way off, however, since I see some links I knew I should pass over on the LS main page later that day. It's obviously going to be a subjective ordeal, but I think the inconsistency of the output may be throwing people off.
We also seem to be missing exceptionally interesting people. Not to put anyone down (lol jk, regulator sucks), but we've been lacking in the beachgoat/sahlgoode/freakbass department for what seems like for-fucking-ever. From my first day here there had been some entity of 'that guy' sticking his grimy dick into things and giving everyone something to do (mostly ridicule and all things good). This can't be forced to occur, and people who try fall flat on their stupid fucking faces. So we'll just have to wait for that with our mitts open, I guess.
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1/20/2008 at 09:26 |
My severe drop in participation is the result of trying to get my life on track after being spit out of college all pink and sticky, quitting my first "real" job, and receiving a flying kick to my ego.
I check in all the time, and lament how little I've offered up links, votes or original writing to the site in the last six months.
Still, I like this place, and plan to return to full participation eventually. |
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I'm assuming the position!  SSHOLEPosts: 1903 Registered: 4/22/2004 Offline
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1/20/2008 at 17:23 |
^Yeah, what they said. Work BS life BS and I am much busier in the cold arctic tundra of Chicago than I was in the cold arctic tundra of Maine. I also don’t have time during the work day to check into Megarad, which I am sure is a great relief to those who do. I did notice before the holidays overall participation on LS had dropped off but figured it was because people were out and about with their fam damilies and such. However, those who have been around LS for awhile eventually find their way back to let those who love/hate them know…they are not dead yet!
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If you want to keep your tongue, don't lick me in the Winter!  SSHOLEPosts: 508 Registered: 10/14/2004 Offline
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1/20/2008 at 21:09 |
Hey Guys,
I'm sorry this somehow ended up being longer than I thought it would.
Reading over the thread it is becoming clear that change is needed to shake things up, as was pointed out, some of us (with the exception of the immortal Loki) are getting older and are looking for something different from LS then we once did.
At some point we need to decide if we want to keep LS smaller, not asking for constant sweet new features, allowing Vas time to do other things, keep our small community, continuing to surprise each other with the few things we find, continue on building our friendships at Halloween, Boston Beer Parties, etc… or if we want LS to grow in popularity and claim some of the Web Glory we think it deserves.
If LinkSwarm is to grow in membership and popularity I think the alpha community is really going to need to step up and help the main admins.
First I’d like to mention a few of the other members ideas that I think are needed to bring and keep more members.
Crackalackin = Make IRC more visible.
**I think we need to move away from #megarad and into #linkswarm. I think we need a Graphic for LSIRC which brings us to instructions to help people get into the fray!
Dent = Advertise
**This is needed. I know LK and I have tossed a few funny ideas around regarding this. (More to follow.)
Dent = Needs new category (Celebs)
** This will probably help with our membership growth, but oh God lets not add this till the new engine allows us to filter the categories we see on the main page .
Dent = Needs more quality porn
** Yes
Wotak = Private/Public Photo Journals
** I think this would be great, moving this from the PhotoStream Forum to users accounts like flickr, then we could all share… (This would be a lot of coding work and really should only be done if things start moving in the right direction)
Tantrum = One thing that's lacking here is immediate feedback
** I’m sure I’m not touching exactly what was meant here however I often thought we should have a small Suggestion Box type Graphic with the concept that folk who see something they like/dislike/hate/want to offer as a suggestion, have a quick semi secret way to do so.
MistaCharisma = Any rejected link may appeal to half of the visitors to the site.
** Lets touch base with this dude… Does he know that becoming an Alpha he can see all the rejected links? Perhaps some of the benefits of boosting your membership level are not easily apparent to newbs… (More to follow)
Jwalker = New Forum – The Great Debate or whatever!
Great Idea! To keep this fresh, in addition to whatever debates of the day people bring up we should ensure that we seed a new topic weekly, even if we have compile a list.
I few thoughts of my own.
- New Alpha only Forum “LinkSwarm Business”
** In here we discuss, trends, concerns, strategies for growth, etc. ( It could be time to help Vas take some of the planning of his shoulders, plus if we are going to weep sand out of our vagina’s a bit, I figure lets keep it out of the newbie’s eyes
- Allow Beta members to see all rejected links.
Have a section of the site only visible to those who non alpha and beta members that says something like: Hey! Wanna see all the links that get rejected and don’t make it into the Swarm? Upgrade to a Beta account blah, blah Click here to see everything else a Beta gets...
- Have a similar LS ad once a person is a Beta that says: Like seeing all the rejected links? Want to have a say in what hits the Swarm? Click to upgrade to Alpha and see what else you get…
- We need to get a few of these main projects onto the main screen.
** I love the new CameraPhone graphic on the main page. What about a small thumbnail “Last Cam Pic Uploaded” right on the main page
**The LOLServer has to become more visible as it is pure Genius!
** The PhotoStream needs a more permanent place on the main screen or it will be forgotten 
** We need to keep the ideas flowing around for new, easy to implement benefit type features like this… I think we all agree that it’s the extras that make LS rock out!
I know adding stuff to the main page takes real estate, but I think it needs to be done. Then perhaps in the future, once you are a member you can choose how you want your home screen to look.
Participation Incentive
I know we are getting close to the new engine and all the new changes… It would be cool to have a sort of rebirth of LS… You know how we have been giving away some alpha accounts… what if we revamped the RadFactor a bit… To include getting Rads for referring a new member who submits links which get accepted…
I look at the RadFactor page and it is confusing to me… I think this needs to be reworked…
Articles Comments Received Article Comments Poll Comments ???
I don't really know what we are looking for here and whether or not this works.
The reason I think this should be revamped and reset is the following… I think we should give out Schwag instead of Alpha accounts…
So my total rads for all time 3760.. ugh… LK’s 45900 WOWEeeee
Let's give people an incentive to participate…
Lets find out how much stuff costs to see whats worth it…
1000 Rads – LS Bottle Opener
5000 Rads, T-Shirt
10000 – Nice ball Cap
50000 – Opportunity to touch Vas’s bum… (Hey LK you’re almost there!)
Contests… Winners get Rads… Think up something innovative and throw it in the suggestion box…it gets implemented …you get rads… etc… I’d love to see 2008 start fresh! Or at least when LS 2.0 goes live… That way we aren’t sending out all kinds of stuff right off the bat…
If we work toward maybe getting more people to become Beta and Alpha accounts then maybe it will offset the money we would spend dolling out free stuff I’m scared people would some how cheat.. Like LK has… I mean 45000 rads? What a nigger! LOL
Keeping LS Alive and Not a Burden = a.k.a Making some money…
- Refer a friend for rads… On the registration screen, have a space to choose who brought you to the Swarm…
Advertising:
- How many LS Widgets do we have on other popular sites?
- LK has a funny idea about putting ads in everyone’s local free classified papers.
- We have one other thought here… But want to wait until I find out how much it’ll cost… then the fun can begin…
- I figure there should be lots of funny ways to advertise and get the word out… I would love to know how many people have visited because of LinkSwarm’s presence at those comic trade shows lol…
Oh God… My scheming brain is hurting… I will try to think some more on it…I guess my hope is that others will say that they want to continue doing what is needed to keep this place rocking, keep Vas wanting to continue and showing the admins that people need this place to stick around and some of us want to help ensure that happens…
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Wotak
You + Fava Beans = Yum SSHOLEPosts: 708 Registered: 5/27/2005 Offline
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1/20/2008 at 21:28 |
Steel:
** I love the new CameraPhone graphic on the main page. What about a small thumbnail “Last Cam Pic Uploaded” right on the main page
I have asked this same question and honestly believe that it would be an awesome feature.
Steel:
**The LOLServer has to become more visible as it is pure Genius!
I do not know of the "LOLServer" you speak of. Why is this?
I also think there should be an Alpha only forum area for discussion of site business. It would be a great way for Vas to monitor feedback regarding where the Swarm is going and where it should go.
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freakmachine
Web Fucko Extraordinaire  SSHOLEPosts: 590 Registered: 4/15/2004 Offline
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1/21/2008 at 00:33 |
I have been participating less lately due to lack of time to find quality links: I have run out of the easy ideas. I know this is a lame excuse. However, I do surf LS far more than any other site because it is most excellent, if that means anything to you.
dent:
3. Static design (for the 4 years I've been here)
4. I designed you an entire new site, which I still haven't seen, but understand.
6. LS is ignoring the biggest part of daily news that a ton of hugely popular sites are catering to: celebrities.
#3 & #4: I like the design and feel no need for change, but I haven't seen your ideas. Whip it out, holmes.
#6: Good god please no celeb news, do you want to attract idiots? Then again, maybe it helps to have people to step on...
johnlenin:
some catchier visuals could definitely grab at people. People are dumb, shiny things work.
But, do you want to attract dumb people? Oh yeah, this is the internet. Sorry. Dumb people are like the zombie plague of the internet, only the zombies have almost won.
steel:
- I figure there should be lots of funny ways to advertise and get the word out…
How about a personal on craigslist about a lonely website looking for new users, all new sign-ups in the next thirty days will receive a pic of Vas' balls.
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The_Rat
Tender vittles  Posts: 9 Registered: 8/26/2006 Offline
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2/14/2008 at 21:47 |
You don't think it might have something to do with the fact that most of you act like you are still in high school and are a bunch of arrogant fuckwits that prefer to keep your website inbred? You are either part of the "in crowd" at Linkswarm or you get insulted until you leave.
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