dinozoa
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11/17/2007 at 22:57 |
I saw a forum post or a link a long time ago, a discussion of humane mousetraps, but I can't find it now, and now is when I have a mouse problem.
I had one mouse. I named him Procrustes, because he liked to eat bread crusts (get it?) Recently I've noticed there're probably more like two or three mice, which means in a week I could have a hundred, because that is what tv says about nature works. It says nature fucks you with a hundred mice a week after the first shows up.
I want to get rid of the mouse. Is there any trap that captures but doesn't kill the mouse, so I can walk it down the block and leave it somewhere? I don't want to pay beaucoup bucks either, or order anything on-line, and to be honest, I don't mind killing the mouse, I just want to know if anybody has experience getting rid of mice with mousetraps that work and might be humane.
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I'm leaving for Africa soon, for a few years, and I think I should buy some stuff in America I won't be able to get there, and first on my list is a knife, a big one, thick and durable. I want to be able to fashion a shelter out of saplings using this knife and not have to worry about it losing an edge too easily, or snapping. I'm thinking a fixed -blade. So- does anybody have any knife advice? I feel like there was even a knife article on linkswarm one time (can't find it.)
Thanks linkswarm.
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JohnLenin
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11/17/2007 at 23:22 |
I'm leaving for Africa soon, for a few years, and I think I should buy some stuff in America I won't be able to get there
condoms
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spankyMcKat
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11/18/2007 at 00:45 |
oi dino, i think you can go to circle pet by the Rite Aid and Vons, near the traffic circle. they have a lot of locally made tanks and cages so they might have some custom-made humane rodent traps~~
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middle_age_man
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11/18/2007 at 01:06 |
I like to use the peanut scented sticky sheet traps in my shop. The directions say that you can use oil to release the rodent from the adhesive but I find the wet crunch noise they make when you stomp on them deeply satisfying.
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LORDKAHUNA
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11/18/2007 at 01:13 |
Who wants to change this to WHY OH GOD WHY DO YOU WANT TO GO TO AFRICA??!??.....LOL
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Lefen
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11/18/2007 at 10:23 |
We had mice in the house I rented when I was an undergrad. Good bait is important, and those fuckers go apeshit for peanut butter.
I personally wouldn't bother with humane mousetraps. As I remember, they were disproportionately expensive when compared with the spring-loaded ones. But it doesn't really matter, because our mice adapted like borg after about 3 kills and learned to avoid the traps completely.
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vasudeva
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11/18/2007 at 11:14 |
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Dinozoa: I just want to know if anybody has experience getting rid of mice with mousetraps that work and might be humane.
I don't. I tried to avoid needless animal murder with a red-tinted rectangular tube that you put a peanut-butter-on-a-cracker at one end, and the mouse is supposed to do "puttin on da ritz" routine right through the swingy door thing. Figured I'd drop new mouse pal off at forest area near my work. Left it out for four nights, never got a prize. Here's how it went...
MORNING 1
Check the humane trap. It's empty.
MORNING 2
Check the humane trap. It's empty.
MORNING 3
Check the humane trap. It's empty.
MORNING 4
Check the humane trap. It's empty. Girlfriend woken up in the middle of the night by squeaking sounds. Go to Home Depot and buy the crude/elegant fuck-that-mouses-spinal-cord impact killers. Get small unrequested lesson from Home Depot helpermonkey guy about the need to kill things in these modern times and the increasing squeamishness of Americans in general. That was unexpected. Like the magic-negro portion of the Vasudeva Kills A Mouse film. Get home, toss humane trap, put a non-humane one in its place.
MORNING 5
Dead mouse, sitting cartoon-tragically in a tiny greasy bloodslick, the untouched peanut-butter-cracker prize taunting its little corpse from a few inches away.
Mouse was schooled efficiently in Whose House Is This Motherfucker 101. Death route got results, would buy again++.
I'm leaving for Africa soon
WTF.
Also, if Africa seems like the kind of place a whiteboy can't get a good knife... stay home?
Is the knife just your magic item of safe entry, or is it actually difficult to get shit like this there? And why Africa?
On 2007-11-18 at 05:20:24, vasudeva craps baby wotak monkeypigeon
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dinozoa
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11/18/2007 at 21:05 |
I went and bought the humane traps before I read the posts, but per your collective advice I am more considering the spring-decapitation death traps. I'm so squeamish though. So squeamish.
Re Africa and the knife business: there're many reasons to go to Africa. I could list them, but you could also use your imagination. There're many reasons not to go to Africa, and I think this is what you guys are focusing on.
I want the kind of knife the US Military comissions for it's troops stationed in Africa. I want high-carbon steel, maybe made in Japan. Better yet, I want some space-age alloy beyond steel (titanium?) with a diamond coating or something expensive and dumb (really, I want the best knife, it doesn't have to be whacky). There are other things I want to take into Africa (condoms), but the knife is the first tool and the tool all other tools are made from.
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The_GoBotSodomizer
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11/18/2007 at 21:47 |
Get a big fucking Kabar and call it a day. |
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Stump
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11/18/2007 at 22:35 |
Here you go.
Knife maker of the U.S, military. This particular knife seems suited for what you're looking for, wider blade makes it better for prying monkey eyes out too.
Have a look at the other knives on here too, you'll want to get one that has a serrated edge in addition to a flat edge.
I'm not sure why you don't think you could get a knife in Africa though and think that a machete would be more appropriate if you're planning on spending time in the bush. There's plenty of those apparently available since they're the favored tool of nigercide.
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dinozoa
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11/19/2007 at 00:32 |
Stump- that knife is pretty much the knife I imagined in my knife-fantasy wet-dreams.
Here is a question for the knife afficianado. What is the difference between 1095 Carbon Steel and D2 Steel (aside from price)? Is one significantly better than the other?
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Stump
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11/19/2007 at 08:30 |
Not really an afficianado, just know what people bought when I was in the service.
I think Kahuna can answer your questions about Steel.
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Dumbskull
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11/19/2007 at 10:16 |
You are going to leave us hanging? WHY are you going to Africa? Fuck are the hardware BS, did you get all the required Vaccines & Immunizations?
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acheron
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11/19/2007 at 12:15 |
John Clarke used that knife. It reflected his victim's terrified, America-hating expressions right back at them.
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vasudeva
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11/19/2007 at 12:48 |
dinozoa: Re Africa and the knife business: there're many reasons to go to Africa. I could list them, but you could also use your imagination. There're many reasons not to go to Africa, and I think this is what you guys are focusing on.
I'd rather focus on the unknown, which is: why fucking Africa? I can think of the following reasons to go to Africa: smuggling, big game hunting,small black hunting, humanitarian work.
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chronos
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11/19/2007 at 13:37 |
This is my favorite military knife manufacturer. They are all excellent - take your pick.
I've had one of their knives for a long time and love it. I never go camping without it and it has served me well.
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LOki
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11/19/2007 at 14:01 |
My impression thus far is that you are woefully unprepared for what you about to embark upon. Mouse-traps, knives, and all.
I really think you should be considering bringing a gun to Africa.
On second thought, you'll be fine if you bring clean socks. Just clean socks.
You'll be fine.
Really. 
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11/19/2007 at 15:47 |
There is nothing worse than baiting a mouse in a small farm house... in the dead of a Wisconsin winter. After taking a nibble of the poison kibble, it will steal away into the walls. There it will die, and after two magical days, its insides burst from its anus and mouth, releasing bile scented clouds into the air. The smell doesn't diminish, but intensifies with the hot air billowing from the furnace, filling the close space. The nice landlord does his best by bringing these pungent crystals that are intended to divert your senses from the smell of the rot. Unfortunately, for the somewhat developed human mind, they just compound the offensive odor. The combo smells like a bad pussy, recently douched with a tangerine-scented Glade plugin. It is a smell that is both unforgettable and revolting. Its effect of diverting the olfactory senses is akin to shooting someone in the face so they don't have to concentrate on their eviscerated intestines dropping from their open belly wound.
The last and only step, apart from vacating the premises, is containment. As in isolate the room that has the highest stench, open all the windows, set up fans, and vapor barrier outside its door. Wait for four to six freezing Wisconsin winter days and the room almost smells like unwashed pussy, minus the rot.
We lived through this ordeal three times in four years.
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BigDinWaunakee
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11/19/2007 at 15:49 |
And all the free, unprotected sex you can waive your penis at....
Eh, why wear a condom! When am I going to be in Africa again?
vasudeva: dinozoa: Re Africa and the knife business: there're many reasons to go to Africa. I could list them, but you could also use your imagination. There're many reasons not to go to Africa, and I think this is what you guys are focusing on.
I'd rather focus on the unknown, which is: why fucking Africa? I can think of the following reasons to go to Africa: smuggling, big game hunting,small black hunting, humanitarian work.
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acheron
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11/19/2007 at 16:38 |
Key question: Where in Africa?
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dinozoa
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11/19/2007 at 19:31 |
Q.
I don't know where I'm going in Africa yet, so it's hard to make plans about what to bring, except the basics (inc. a knife.) There is a good chance I will be underprepared and have a rough adjustment period.
I won't be leaving for at least a month, and maybe in six months.
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I am medically up to date.
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I'm doing humanitarian work, but it's not the only reason I'm going. The climate, exploration, different cultures, life experience, etc. The humanitarian work is more a vehicle for my larger ambition.
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I put out a bunch of mouse traps, the humane kind, and I saw a mouse frequently scurry past them. I think the whole thing about putting the peanut butter in the inside of a box is a mistake, because the mice can't see it or smell it as easily. The whole point, as I see it, is you want the odor of the bait to be so compelling the mouse's psyche is dominated by the reptilian-repsonse, "FOOD FOOD FOOD." If the food is removed from immediate perception it's more of an abstract, "I sense food and should investigate it's whereabouts in the future."
I'm going to soft-ball the mice for another few days and then bring out the spring-exploded-guts-detorsoitation-death-traps.
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11/19/2007 at 19:53 |
dinozoa: I'm doing humanitarian work, but it's not the only reason I'm going. The climate, exploration, different cultures, life experience, etc. The humanitarian work is more a vehicle for my larger ambition.
Are you going to bring a camera, and have net access of any kind? I'd love to see updates of this.
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11/19/2007 at 22:40 |
vasudeva: dinozoa: I'm doing humanitarian work, but it's not the only reason I'm going. The climate, exploration, different cultures, life experience, etc. The humanitarian work is more a vehicle for my larger ambition.
Are you going to bring a camera, and have net access of any kind? I'd love to see some native saggy titty.
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dinozoa
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11/20/2007 at 03:19 |
Procrustes is dead. The humane trap caught and killed him.
How many more mice are there?
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11/21/2007 at 03:39 |
dinozoa: Procrustes is dead. The humane trap caught and killed him.
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?
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11/21/2007 at 22:25 |
Old school is always best!
As for the knife, don't go rambo style and get yourself a small camp knife that you can do anything from eat with to split wood. I have a Bark River North Star ( link ), been using it for a couple years now and it's a damn good knife, holds it's edge too.
But even better is the Doug Ritter folder ( link ), it's basically a Benchmade Griptilian that's been beefed up a little bit. I lost mine a couple months ago and I've been waiting for Christmas to get another... It's the perfect go anywhere knife... I never sharpened mine in 3 years and it never lost its edge. I would cut everything from opening boxes and cutting cardboard to whacking small branches with it too... I tried some batoning (splitting wood by hitting the back of the knife to force the blade down the log) and it worked like a champ on 2 1/2 to 4 inch diameter branches. Best thing about it is that you can hide it away in your pocket when your not using it, light weight and it doesn't draw a crowd every time you pull it out.
Check out http://www.bladeforums.com too, there is a ton of good reviews on their site.
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dinozoa
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11/23/2007 at 07:14 |
coknurmowth, you made some excellent points. Maybe my thing for a huge fixed-blade knife is irrational and obsessive.
I guess my question now is, how idiot proof would a folding blade be? I have no prior knife experience. Do they require special maintenance for the joint or whatever?
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11/24/2007 at 20:16 |
I never oiled mine at all, If you are getting it wet (and staying wet) and in the muck and sand all the time then some cleaning is in order. All I would usually have to do was use a Q-tip to clean the pocket lint out of it. The bad thing about putting a lot of oil on a knife is that it becomes a crap magnet.. everything wants to stick to it.
Spend some extra money on a higher quality knife and you won't have a problem. benchmade... spyderco, look to spend over $100 for the good metals or if you got some cash to spend look at a Sabenza.
And another thing that helps is to put a lanyard on it too. I got some off ebay that a guy made out of paracord they look like boondoggles, they give something extra to hold onto and in a pinch you can unravel the paracord to use too.
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