firearm w/ammunition
hatchet (weapon/tool)
machete (weapon/tool)
first aid supplies
small-sized high calorie foodstuffs (energy bars, etc)
water purification tablets
one of those jerkoff/shake flashlights
wind up radio
flint/steel
a couple flares
extra pair of shoes
ropes
compass
tin mess kit
cantine
travelers guitar (if there's room)
pound of bud
bottle of tapatio
a few misc extras for possible trading with other survivors
I'd say there are two skills needed in this situation:
1. close-combat/self-defense. This is useful for your urban/suburban encounters, of course. But the key should really be to avoid these encounters.
2. Wilderness survival. Your goal should be to get out of populated areas. The reasons for this are obvious. The ideal area would have a decent amount of edible vegetation and a healthy population of animals for food/furs. There must be more than a few areas like this in Canada.
____________________ [Clavis_A] he's one of the few people i've ever seen that bear a striking resemblence to their own dick
I don't think that there's a whole lot to bring to the collective. Especially considering that I want to pack as little as possible (a medium sized back back, with a couple items on my person). I would be more than willing to share several of my items with my non-zombie comrades, but I think the most important thing to share in this scenario is knowledge, skills, and support.
I'm sure that most here share at least base-line knowledge in fields such as survival, camping, fighting, first aid, knot tying, cooking, shelter building, etc. So it really comes down to a strength in numbers thing.
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Then I'd go to the Lowe's here and start boarding the place up. I would travel back and forth between it and the Wal-Mart here for food until all resources were depleted - probably about a year or two. Then I would modify some delivery truck into a caged death machine with chainsaws and spikes sticking out the sides and roam around our post 9/11 world killing any zombies still alive. What else would there be to do?
And I would definitely shun the collective. This type of event would be an excellent opportunity to throw away and keep stuffed in the trash any measure of control any type of government would place on me. And you know some type of government would be set up by the collective, because people are weak stupids who cry for authority. Often bad authority.
On 2007-08-23 at 21:20:32, SexNinjaMcDeath craps monkey baby
____________________ HAMFIGHTER> He shrugged, and started finishing himself off, on my breasts, while I was crying.
I've got a copy of World War Z on order at the local library. Once I read it, I'll get back with ya. As for now, I'm stocking up on shotgun shells and canned goods.
____________________ "Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage."
Prolly want to put a hold on that Five-seveN, SNMD. It is pure sexy, but I'd stick with something you'd be able to find ammo for every-goddamn-where. The Survival Guide suggests picking up a mini-14 or something similar as a main, but I guess I'm a traditionalist. .00 buck in that remington all the way.
I don't plan on being alive very long - wouldn't be very nice to be in such a world. Might as well splurge. I would capture a zombie and use it as a pack mule for the ammo.
____________________ HAMFIGHTER> He shrugged, and started finishing himself off, on my breasts, while I was crying.
Dude, I'm in Arkansas - an incredible distance from the rally point.
If shit goes down (and we all know it will go down) I'm gonna set up a southern base.
A large majority of the populace down here already exhibit the zombie trait, so we don't play.
My family and some of my more enlightened friends are gonna hold-up at a well-defensible farm in the foothills of the Ozark Mountain Range.
The farm is on a ridge, giving it vantage. There is a sustainable herd of cows and chickens to provide sustenance. Whats more: A slightly deranged (but overall agreeable) Ugandan psychiatrist has been stockpiling weapons not 300 yards away for the past 10 years. There are AK47s, M16s, M60s, and every other manner of military firepower let to the specialized open market at disposal (with ammo).
Good Christ, I wish I had just made that last part up, but people where I'm from really do take amazing measures in case of holocaust, armageddon, and whatever.
One thing to consider: Keep a pre-electronic vehicle. We have farm trucks and even tractors that use the simple method. If shit goes really bad, the government may utilize nuclear weapons which cause EMP which fries all the circuit boards in modern vehicles.
____________________ "Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage."
____________________ Synergy means behavior of whole systems unpredicted by the behavior of their parts taken separately; except on holidays and weekends.
I wouldn't worry so much about Zombie Kahuna. Those pillows were obviously either cotton or synthetic-filled.
One good blast with a feather pillow should incapacitate that brain munching abomination.
On 2007-08-25 at 20:12:33, Phlebas craps monkey baby
On 2007-08-25 at 20:15:36, Phlebas craps monkey baby
____________________ "Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage."
True,
But if further character study proves that Zombie Kahuna wields his penis like a fluffy pillow, then all recent risk assessments should substantiate reports of the further declination of the zombie infestation.
____________________ "Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage."
I approve of a zombie apocalypse gathering point. How are the winters up there? Consider that we may not be able to count on fossil fuels indefinitely as a heat source. How about availability of fish and tasty animals? It may prove a better idea to locate near an ocean for the possibility of obtaining ocean going animals. Vancouver Island, maybe? I think the climate is milder near the coast.
It seems to me that at least a couple of us should attend a wilderness survival school lite this: Tracker School. Such skills would prove extremely valuable.
I will find and contribute valve based ham radio equipment because, in case someone decides to use the nuclear anti-zombie option, tubes aren't vulnerable to emp damage. Radio communication could be important. Does anyone know about repairing electronics or using existing abandoned communications infrastructure to advantage?
A good collection of books about making useful artifacts of civilization (like wine barrels, horse carriages, swords, hi-def plasma tv's, etc.) is a plus and we should start a list. Who knows some good titles? My first suggestion: Castle because castles are badass and we can kill zombies with crossbows and get all Conan and shit.
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On 2007-08-27 at 00:09:41, freakmachine craps monkey baby
On 2007-08-27 at 00:12:07, freakmachine craps monkey baby
Phlebas: There is a sustainable herd of cows and chickens to provide sustenance. Whats more: A slightly deranged (but overall agreeable) Ugandan psychiatrist has been stockpiling weapons not 300 yards away for the past 10 years. There are AK47s, M16s, M60s, and every other manner of military firepower let to the specialized open market at disposal (with ammo).
So what you are saying is that you have acres of delicious defenseless nutrients and an exceedingly well-armed madman nearby who knows about said nutrients and is quite possibly, if he has any sense, counting on it to survive.
Maybe you should start inviting him over for bonding sessions.
Freakmachine: A good collection of books about making useful artifacts of civilization (like wine barrels, horse carriages, swords, hi-def plasma tv's, etc.) is a plus and we should start a list. Who knows some good titles?
When I was growing up, and bored visiting my Texan grandparents, I'd go through their storage, and always encountered a bunch of Foxfire books, which were full of wierd/practical old-timey shit like...
knife making
wood carving
gardening
banjos & dulcimers
hide tanning
midwives
witches and haints
ironsmithing
hog dressing
log cabin building
snake lore
faith healing
moonshining
We can do division of labor and each specialize in a couple areas. (I'll take snake lore and faith healing.)
____________________ slippedhole> I am on to you and your evil intentions. I am the true protector of this website and am willing to do battle with you.
Cold, which I find advantageous, it gives us a period of time where the remaining moisture in a zombie corpse can freeze solid, making them slow and brittle.
The cold weather defoliates the landscape as well, giving a larger field of view to spot the advancing horde from further away.
Consider that we may not be able to count on fossil fuels indefinitely as a heat source.
You are correct, we will have to marshal fuel, but I do not see us running out due to the global decrease in fuel demand that will occur. There is a lot of trees to burn as well.
How about availability of fish and tasty animals? It may prove a better idea to locate near an ocean for the possibility of obtaining ocean going animals. Vancouver Island, maybe? I think the climate is milder near the coast.
There is a TON of tasty animals here, and fishes too (freshwater), not to mention all the animals on the mainland as well. One of the reasons I picked an area away from the coast is that population density is the highest there, more ppl = more zombs.
It seems to me that at least a couple of us should attend a wilderness survival school
Word.
I will find and contribute valve based ham radio equipment because, in case someone decides to use the nuclear anti-zombie option, tubes aren't vulnerable to emp damage. Radio communication could be important. Does anyone know about repairing electronics or using existing abandoned communications infrastructure to advantage?
I am a little handy in this area, but the LBP is the cat’s tits when it comes to this.
Ottawa Zombies Protest At Parliament Hill, Demanding Brains !!
...and so it begins!
____________________ Synergy means behavior of whole systems unpredicted by the behavior of their parts taken separately; except on holidays and weekends.
Instructional zombie survival video from the 1950s
____________________ Synergy means behavior of whole systems unpredicted by the behavior of their parts taken separately; except on holidays and weekends.
I will bring shovels and other instruments of digging. The water table on this island is bound to be high, but the highest parts of the island should be networked with tunnels and caverns for living/retreating. These holes will also serve as excellent shelter from the harsh winter weather.
We will need many guns and a yacht to serve as a supply scouting temporary base. Smaller speedboats will be needed to send scout teams ashore. The yacht will cache the gathered goodies until full and will make longer, more effective scouting patrols possible. This will become a full time job for a select few on the island. We must gather enough supplies during warm weather to get us through the frozen lake months. Kahuna will captain this pirate ship and lead this freshwater militia. He will need a sword.
During the winter months when the surrounding water is frozen, zombies may find temporary access to our haven. We will need snowshoe patrols to serve as a perimeter defense system. They must have radios for early warning of any approaching zombie hordes.
Bring shitloads of beef jerky. I love beef jerky.
____________________ "silly linux users. sharts for you" --hobo
I tend to think that Brooks was hinting on underground installations being a bad idea in WW-Z when he talked about the catacombs filled with zombies. Also, in a different segment, he mentions that the new rage in post-war home construction was houses built on stilts.
____________________ "Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage."
