government_death_robot
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1/8/2007 at 18:21 |
I spent the better part of last night comparing different lists of 'best zombie movies'. The only criteria I established was that Dead Alive had to appear on the list. (Got to research how to spend Christmas money, k?) OKAY, HERE IS THE LIST NOW. These are the ones that appeared most frequently. (Sorted Most-to-Least frequent).
01. Dead Alive
02. Night of the Living Dead (Original)
03. Zombie (Zombi 2)
04. Shaun of the Dead
05. Return of the Living Dead
06. Dawn of the Dead (Remake)
07. Dawn of the Dead (Original)
08. 28 Days Later
09. Bio Zombie
10. Cemetery Man
WHAT ZOMBIE MOVIES DO YOU SAY ARE THE BEST ZOMBIE MOVIES, THAT ARE ABOUT ZOMBIES, SWARM?
Srsly. We all like Zombies, right?
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vasudeva
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1/8/2007 at 18:57 |
I submit that the (06) Dawn of the Dead remake is the best zombie film of all time in the "real movie" genre, as opposed to such genres as "most faithful to accepted zombie canon" and "campiest", both of which I don't give a shit about, despite loving zombie movies unreservedly and watching them like an animal voraciously eating whatever that animal prefers as foodstuffs.
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ghostrider
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1/8/2007 at 19:12 |
White Zombie is sorely overlooked. Pure schlock.
Cool Beans: Last week I got gas at some c-store, and bought a dvd pack for $10 that has the following horror greats/classics:
Atom Age Vampire
Good Against Evil
The Atomic Brain
Bloodlust
The Brain That Wouldn't Die
The Brain Machine
The Little Shop Of Horrors
The Screaming Skull
Nightmare Castle
White Zombie
YAY !
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JohnLenin
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1/8/2007 at 19:19 |
1 .Shaun of the Dead
2. Dawn of the Dead (04)
3. Return of the Living Dead (hot nekkid bitch ftw)
4.Day of the Dead
5. Night of the Living Dead (savini remake)
6.28 Days Later
7. Night of the Living Dead (original)
8. City of the Living Dead aka Gates of Hell (this movie is awful, but I couldn't help but add my own mst3k commentary the whole time - thus making it watchable and lol)
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middle_age_man
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1/8/2007 at 22:25 |
I recall that Re-Animator was a decent flick.
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LORDKAHUNA
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1/8/2007 at 23:09 |
Whilst I love all zombie movies, 28 Days Later hold a special place in my heart (right beside a hyooge clogged artery) for being one of the most innovative.
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mcgarpat
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1/9/2007 at 00:27 |
28 days later rocked.
Dreamcatcher blew dead bears, worst flick I ever fukin saw. Alien Turds! Hah.
Shame on Steven King, what was he thinking.
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1/9/2007 at 00:39 |
I would have to say because it was my first zombie movie...
1. The Return of The Living Dead (naked chic in cemetery)
2. Evil Dead (all of em, if they count)
3. Shaun of the Dead
4. 28 Days Later
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Wrecker
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1/9/2007 at 02:57 |
I thought the first half of 28 Days Later was great. The second half not so much. The quick ass running zombies were awesome
Shaun of the Dead is a favorite.
Dawn of the Dead (06) I agree is hands down the best.
Savini's Night of the LIving Dead would have to be the second best remake.
I wouldn't count the Evil Dead movies since those aren't technically zombies. They're demons.
No 'Zombie Holocaust' or 'Serpent and the Rainbow'?
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Jawlessjoe
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1/9/2007 at 03:42 |
guitarjon123: 1 .Shaun of the Dead
2. Dawn of the Dead (04)
3. 28 Days Later
4. Night of the Living Dead (savini remake)
5. Night of the Living Dead (original)
I agree with everything but 28 days.
I mean I saw it, and it was ok (even with the pussy american ending), but everyone knows that "fast zombies" go against everything we know about the zombie kin
PS) Just browsing before bedtime, but did anybody mention the Resident Evil movies? =P lol
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JohnLenin
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1/9/2007 at 04:16 |
note to vas and wrecker- DotD remake was 2004, not 2006
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mundhra
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1/9/2007 at 04:42 |
note to jj - they weren't actually zombies so no rule broken
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Slex
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1/9/2007 at 05:10 |
My bible. I await the Zombie Apocalypse.
Have you guys heard anything about the newest movie from the guys from Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz? Looks gewd. |
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JohnLenin
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1/9/2007 at 05:31 |
^ handbook? nigga please. That shit is just common sense on paper. Have fun being torn apart while flipping through the index looking for 'how to shit in pants.'
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1/9/2007 at 05:39 |
guitarjon123: ^ handbook? nigga please. That shit is just common sense on paper. Have fun being torn apart while flipping through the index looking for 'how to shit in pants.'
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dinozoa
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1/9/2007 at 05:52 |
28 days later was really good, but it didn't scare me the way night of the living dead did. I always feel it sticks out amongst the lists of classic zombie movies.
I heard stories of a director's cut of evil dead that was even better than the released version, but I've never seen it.
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government_death_robot
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1/9/2007 at 06:23 |
middle_age_man: I recall that Re-Animator was a decent flick.
That was actually #11 in the total list, but it wasn't <10, so it didn't count.
guitarjon123: 4. Night of the Living Dead (savini remake)
I have never seen past the seen where Johnny's head gets sploded in Savini's remake of NOTLD. It did look considerably cooler than the first, though.
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1/9/2007 at 10:00 |
Andre The Butcher/Dead Meat is a pretty funny one.It gets +10 points for having Ron Jeremy blessing the acting cast with his presence.
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Wrecker
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1/9/2007 at 11:31 |
guitarjon123: note to vas and wrecker- DotD remake was 2004, not 2006
You sir are correct.
Note to jj: DotD (2004) had fast zombies, and since it was directed by Romero, I would have to say that makes fast zombies canon.
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Jawlessjoe
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1/9/2007 at 12:17 |
mundhra: note to jj - they weren't actually zombies so no rule broken
They were referred to as zombies lots of times in the flick though, so I believe the intent was "zombies". That and they were listed in a zombie "top 5" 
And Wrecker otD (04) had fast zombies? I only saw it once, but I don't recall the fast ones. Just the stupid, endless shambling kind that makes me enjoy zombies so much.
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Jawlessjoe
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1/9/2007 at 12:21 |
Oh, and this deserves a double post.
THE NEXT COUNTER STRIKE: The one being made by the CS team as a mod for Half Life 2... is zombie based.
So far they have only released SOME details. I read of it in a PC Magazine or PC Gamer. Basically, it's like a team of 5 survivalists with the standard "what you can find and limited ammo" shit, VS a team of 5 SUPER zombies, and a shitload of AI controlled zombies.
And it's a teamwork kind of mod too. So you can run about solo, but if you stray from the group, you will eventually be either over-run by zomb's or stalked down by a super zombie.
Also, a mod in development for HL2 and that is already out for HL is "BrainBread". It's free, and it's a lot of fun. But the HL2 version has been in development for a long ass time now, so who knows when it'll come out
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vasudeva
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1/9/2007 at 12:57 |
middle_age_man: I recall that Re-Animator was a decent flick.
I recall it being poop, like (regretfully) basically every single other Lovecraft story brought to screen. Plus generic undead do not zombies make.
Having said that, it'd be pretty tough to sit and argue quality when I've already admitted to being hopelessly in love with zombie movies, and arguing about what makes a zombie a zombie is necessarily an appeal to zombie canon, so I have no reasonable objection here. Plus, Reanimator had John Kerry in it.
guitarjon123: ^ handbook? nigga please. That shit is just common sense on paper. Have fun being torn apart while flipping through the index looking for 'how to shit in pants.'
I avoided the Zombie Survival Guide on a hunch that it'd be routine pap, but someone gave me a copy -- I have it sitting here on my desk -- and it's actually surprisingly well-considered. The authors have thought about post-zombie survival more than I have, though I suspect they may be salting the populace with the idea that Destination X makes a terrible safe-haven only so that they can keep it to themselves. Unsure.
Jawlessjoe: Wrecker:DotD (04) had fast zombies? I only saw it once, but I don't recall the fast ones. Just the stupid, endless shambling kind that makes me enjoy zombies so much.
The remake did indeed have fast zombies. They don't have quite the same inexorable creeping-horror effect that the conventional slows do, but I think they still deserve a chance at eating your vitals. The debate over fast vs slow zombies has been done to death elsewhere, which doesn't explain why I'm doing it here.
My only problem with 28 Days Later is that the original premise wasn't zombification so much as infection with Rage, a virus that was supposed to send the infected on uncontrolled fits of destructive animal violence, but halfway through, the characteristics of infection sort of mutated into just-regular-zombie-behavior-only-running.
It was still good; I just would have liked to see the Rage thing play out as promised.
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mundhra
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1/9/2007 at 14:59 |
re lovecraft flicks: the best two i can recall are dagon (which is decidedly meh+), and in the mouth of madness (that i hold a fondness for, for some reason). perhaps i should rewatch it.
i should probably check out the survival guide; i read world war z and it was pretty awesome.
i've been pretty lax on my zombie movies, sadly. i've only seen the following from the op list:
night of the living dead (orig)
28 days later
shaun of the dead
My only problem with 28 Days Later is that the original premise wasn't zombification so much as infection with Rage, a virus that was supposed to send the infected on uncontrolled fits of destructive animal violence, but halfway through, the characteristics of infection sort of mutated into just-regular-zombie-behavior-only-running.
It was still good; I just would have liked to see the Rage thing play out as promised.
i saw the decline into zombie look and action a natural degeneration that would occur when said people stopped caring about nutrition, exposure to elements, etc. not to mention unforeseen long-term effects of the virus. what do you mean by 'play out as promised'?
oh. you forgot resident evil ^__^
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1/9/2007 at 15:40 |
mundhra: re lovecraft flicks: the best two i can recall are dagon (which is decidedly meh+)
Dagon is best-of-breed in my opinion. (I'm completely infatuated with the sister character, incidentally.) I've got Mouth of Madness here on disk and should probably give it another shot.
mundhra: vasudeva: My only problem with 28 Days Later is that the original premise wasn't zombification so much as infection with Rage, a virus that was supposed to send the infected on uncontrolled fits of destructive animal violence, but halfway through, the characteristics of infection sort of mutated into just-regular-zombie-behavior-only-running.
It was still good; I just would have liked to see the Rage thing play out as promised.
i saw the decline into zombie look and action a natural degeneration that would occur when said people stopped caring about nutrition, exposure to elements, etc. not to mention unforeseen long-term effects of the virus. what do you mean by 'play out as promised'?
I suppose the natural degeneration would explain a lot of it. I got the idea the makers wanted to do something somewhat different from the standard zombie movie, and the way they set up the Rage virus led me to expect wanton uncontrolled destruction, not just typical zombie meatlust... which, outside of Zombie Movie Mythos are two separate things.
Lots of zombie movies try to get clever and posit a new scientifically-based explanation for man-eating, undying zombies ("here's our take on why these corpses are reanimating and unstoppably hungry for human flesh and unkillable except via headshot or other massive brain trauma") but the Rage premise seemed more ambitious and less canon. Taken at face value, you'd think the infected would be destroying inanimate objects, attacking each other, attacking humans only because they were an interestingly noisy and mobile landscape element, but it ended up just making them typical zombies. They delineated from canon in other ways. 28 Days created the fast zombie, and the solution to the zombie problem has never been "wait a month and they'll starve to death" because zombies have historically never suffered starvation or dehydration. (I could be wrong on both, not having seen every single zombie movie, but to the best of my recall, both are accurate.)
Maybe I interpreted it too hopefully as a new twist layered on conventional zombie-movie mechanics, though; I seem to be the only human kind of disappointed in the way the Rage idea played out.
(Christ, I'm feeling like that Comic Book Guy person.)
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1/9/2007 at 17:16 |
wrecker: Romero didn't do the Dawn remake. quit pooping on yourself.
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Jawlessjoe
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1/9/2007 at 18:52 |
My only problem with 28 Days Later is that the original premise wasn't zombification so much as infection with Rage, a virus that was supposed to send the infected on uncontrolled fits of destructive animal violence, but halfway through, the characteristics of infection sort of mutated into just-regular-zombie-behavior-only-running.
Well the special features (oh yeah, I BOUGHT a movie. Be impressed) talked about the 'origional' ending which involved them finding the cure for Rage, but it being a FULL BLOOD TRANSFUSION, and the girl would do it to save the guy when he got infected, and she would die.
The only problem is that it made no fucking sense, so they resorted to the military guys and the classic 'dead'
Oh, and yes, fast zombies aren't that bad. It's the slow, endless hordes that install fear. No matter how many you drop, what defenses you have, they have numbers, and they don't stop.
mud: oh. you forgot resident evil ^__^
My first post in this thread sucka
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1/9/2007 at 19:37 |
I'm not a big fan of zombie movies. I always found them to be too predictable...
Some virus causes dead people to rise out from the grave (this of course is in my best Vincent Price voice) and a small group of normal people run away. A zombie bites and or scratches a person in the small group and then becomes a zombie, which scares the fuck out of the the rest of the small group of survivors. Some shit happens afterwards, but nothing special.
Finally, the remaining group finds solace in a rather dark area that can easily be accessible to the zombie's with the most motivation or post-athletic skills.
The rest of the film has the two survivors swatting zombie arms and heads away from windows and doorways with crude weapons.
Zzzz -
Although, if I had to choose, Dawn of the Dead remake (04) and Shaun of the Dead were by far the most entertaining to sit through.
I pick the demon/supernatural sub-genre over the zombie sub-genre any day.
Evil Dead 2 rules.
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JohnLenin
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1/9/2007 at 19:41 |
zombie movies need to bee a bit campy to be fun. They tend to be more about the people and (not so) subtle social commentaries, while the zombie scenes are there to keep you from getting pissed off.
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mundhra
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1/9/2007 at 20:12 |
actually, i should probably give dagon more credit; it's pretty decent. i should revisit (plus sister is hot). i have, but have not watched, this.
back to zombies?
OKAY.
haha, oh shit.
(this might all be disjointed, i did it in many bits. sorry.)
re vasudeva's post:
in 28 days later, the infected were zombie analogues, but weren't zombies. they didn't reanimate after death, after all. i think lateral-thinking is a better way of describing it (as opposed to ambitious). the only things different are a) they were fast moving, b) they attacked you but didn't actually eat you, and c) they died eventually. it just seemed to me that rage made you immensely, psychotically antisocial. this doesn't explain why they don't just all kill each other, but i'm not sure that would enhance the movie. incidentally, it seems there's a remake of the crazies coming out (in addition to a 28 days later sequel). it appears 28 days later would be the midpoint on a the crazies <-> living dead scale. i haven't actually seen the crazies, though, so...
likewise i don't know about the waiting for the zombies to die aspect. maybe in zombie canon, it just takes too long to wait it out? obviously, the biology's the rub. those muscles, zombie or raged-infected, aren't just flexing themselves. locomotion requires energy. this might make sense when considering the 28 days later infected moved fast and die somewhat quickly.
oh fuck, i actually agree with gj. :FROWNTOWN:
not about the campy part, but about the social commentary. they're a reflection on what happens to society/individuals when the shit goes down. this is why i enjoyed the ending to 28 days later while a lot of people didn't get it. then again, i have a degree in sociology so it's to be expected.
i think it's interesting the dawn remake had fast zombies, but land of the dead did not.
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1/9/2007 at 20:26 |
Incidentally, I consider the dynamics of John Carpenter's The Thing to have the Zombie Nature.
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