ghostrider
liberal exit   SSHOLEPosts: 2459 Registered: 7/29/2004 Online
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12/15/2006 at 22:10 |
Wha??
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JohnLenin
Putting the semen in amusement  SSHOLEPosts: 1053 Registered: 7/8/2005 Online
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12/15/2006 at 22:44 |
haha, bullshit propaganda
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ghostrider
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12/15/2006 at 22:52 |
Dude, it's Yahoo
It hasta be true.
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dinozoa
SENATOR BABYHEAD  Posts: 319 Registered: 7/18/2004 Offline
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12/15/2006 at 23:54 |
IQ is a meaningless concept
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freakbass
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12/16/2006 at 02:38 |
I liked the article and will add it to my arsenal even if it's false..
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dinozoa
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12/16/2006 at 04:02 |
are you also going to save articles that say white people have higher iqs than black people because you're white?
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Uart
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12/17/2006 at 20:56 |
freakbass: I liked the article and will add it to my arsenal even if it's false..
I can prove that it is bullshit. |
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freakbass
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12/19/2006 at 04:24 |
such things don't matter, dinozoa.
I will send it to people just to piss them off, which is my MO here much of the time.
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JohnLenin
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12/19/2006 at 07:00 |
freakbass: ...just to piss them off, which is my MO here much of the time.
You're just saying that because nobody here likes you.
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dinozoa
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12/19/2006 at 10:48 |
pot calling the kettle black
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vasudeva
Bad Taste in your Mouth  SSHOLEPosts: 4470 Registered: 3/8/2002 Offline
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12/19/2006 at 14:00 |
freakbass: I will send it to people just to piss them off, which is my MO here much of the time.
Ah, the time-honored last-ditch attempt of the loser to scrabble up some dignity by pretending to embrace the failure of his dialog.
:SEALCLAP:
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mundhra
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12/19/2006 at 15:42 |
I will send it to people just to piss them off, which is my MO here much of the time.
how wotakian.
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freakmachine
Web Fucko Extraordinaire  SSHOLEPosts: 590 Registered: 4/15/2004 Offline
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1/27/2007 at 23:36 |
I found this in the very early linkswarm archives:
Veganism is Silly |
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LOki
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1/28/2007 at 20:10 |
greenrd:
I won't speculate too much about the motives of those who make arguments like "But what about plants?" Suffice it to say that trolling and joking are not the only things that can drive people to champion apparently absurd positions. LOLsome.
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dinozoa
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1/28/2007 at 20:18 |
I feel like we hashed out all the things he was talking about in that article. It was still pretty cool and well written.
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nocal
It's insane, this guy's taint  SSHOLEPosts: 811 Registered: 8/25/2004 Offline
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1/29/2007 at 05:41 |
I feel like we hashed out all the things he was talking about in that article. It was still pretty cool and well written.
His argument as to why no one really believes that plants suffer is that there is no "Plant Liberation Front." What kind of retarded half assed argument is that?
Besides, veganism is the concern of rich people with their heads up their asses. The only people that can deny themselves edible food are people who obviously have too much of it, and to argue against the suffering of salmon while people mere blocks away from you starve to death on the street is incomprehensible. |
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dinozoa
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1/29/2007 at 09:03 |
jesus nocal, you're the one who's sounding like he's making a retarded half-assed argument. What does the starvation of other people have anything to do with the vegan diet? I'm not telling starving people to be vegan. Being vegan isn't something mutually exclusive to concern for the welfare of humans.
Also, he addresses the meat of the plant argument earlier, saying it's pretty much impossible to figure out if they can suffer, so it's up to you to decide if they don't, and most people decide they don't. Is it fun for you to pick apart somebody else's joke?
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LORDKAHUNA
Don't make me fuk your moustache  SSHOLEPosts: 1632 Registered: 8/5/2003 Offline
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1/29/2007 at 15:46 |
I think you and nocal should fuck, then we can get all this ickyness behind us.
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nocal
It's insane, this guy's taint SSHOLEPosts: 811 Registered: 8/25/2004 Offline
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1/29/2007 at 16:30 |
What does the starvation of other people have anything to do with the vegan diet? I'm not telling starving people to be vegan. Being vegan isn't something mutually exclusive to concern for the welfare of humans.
The only people who are able to deny themselves food have too much of it. Vegans, anorexics and bulimics, all other people with weird food disorders. It is the pursuit of a person who is, in the grander sense of the world, morally confused. There is suffering all over the world, and whose suffering do you work to end? The suffering of animals. And in the simplest way possible: a way which causes you no harm and a slight adjustment in lifestyle. And it is mutually exclusive to concern for the welfare of humans. I mean, the whole point of being a vegan is either dietary, in which case whatever, or is a specifically moral choice, in which case it is designed to influence the suffering of animals. If a vegan were working to end the suffering of humans, they would cease to be vegan, because they would go to places where the most human suffering exists, which in all cases are places with a lack of food.
Also, he addresses the meat of the plant argument earlier, saying it's pretty much impossible to figure out if they can suffer, so it's up to you to decide if they don't, and most people decide they don't. Is it fun for you to pick apart somebody else's joke?
His argument there is ridiculous as well. It's all arbitrary. He claims prawns don't feel pain, and "probably" honeybees don't feel pain. Is it because they don't make a noise? Is it because they are not anthropomophised? I happen to think that all animals feel pain, and likely insects as well. Does that make me a better vegan? What if I think that only fish can feel pain. In veganism, that is apparently a defensible argument. So I will stop eating fish in order to feel a sense of bizarre moral superiority.
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mundhra
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1/29/2007 at 16:56 |
nocal: Is it fun for you to rape children?
i think it largely depends on whether or not children actually feel pain.
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vasudeva
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1/29/2007 at 17:06 |
Which they do NOT, FIRE ZE SLIP-N-SLIDE RAPE CANNON, *schlumpf* *schlumpf* *schlumpf* |
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ghostrider
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1/29/2007 at 17:07 |
nocal: The only people who are able to deny themselves food have too much of it. Vegans, anorexics and bulimics, all other people with weird food disorders. It is the pursuit of
Sing that song in India and see how far you get.
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1/29/2007 at 17:15 |
So veganism is on solid ground if it bears religious underpinnings? Surely you jest. This creates antimatter. |
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ghostrider
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1/29/2007 at 17:27 |
No, i'm saying most of them do not have too much, yet they have a high percentage of vegans.
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1/29/2007 at 17:52 |
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dinozoa
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1/29/2007 at 20:33 |
nocal:
The only people who are able to deny themselves food have too much of it. Vegans, anorexics and bulimics, all other people with weird food disorders. It is the pursuit of a person who is, in the grander sense of the world, morally confused. There is suffering all over the world, and whose suffering do you work to end? The suffering of animals. And in the simplest way possible: a way which causes you no harm and a slight adjustment in lifestyle. And it is mutually exclusive to concern for the welfare of humans. I mean, the whole point of being a vegan is either dietary, in which case whatever, or is a specifically moral choice, in which case it is designed to influence the suffering of animals. If a vegan were working to end the suffering of humans, they would cease to be vegan, because they would go to places where the most human suffering exists, which in all cases are places with a lack of food.
This is basically all not true. I thought there were starving people on the streets in America. So that means there's a serious lack of food in, for example, west Oakland? I'm in trouble, if I continue to restrict my diet here I might die of malnutrition.
Also, even if you don't give a fuck about other people, being vegan is no worse than eating a lot of meat, when it comes to how much food you give other people. I won't say vegan's never glut themselves to walmart denizen obesity, because I'm sure there're a few fat vegans, but it's something to consider.
Hell, you have a lot of things to consider. Your argument is so poorly thought out it's a miracle you were able to type it with clear conviction. You're just so totally oblivious to other viewpoints on this issue, it's like arguing with somebody who just heard of the idea of veganism for the first time, and has a lot of basic questions.
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JohnLenin
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1/29/2007 at 20:37 |
veganism, and vegatarianism for that matter, is bad for the economy and bad for your body. It will weaken the human species into a mushy, flesh-colored pulp and leave you with no option but to touch penises with each other. Fuck all of you. Forever.
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theSASSman
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1/30/2007 at 04:17 |
It seems to me that Veganism, in the spcific context of this thread, is ONLY referring to the political activism of the Vegan movement. What all of you, I, or anyone on Earth chooses to eat is irrelevant, and is nobdy's business. Nor should it be.
What fails here is the argument of "animal rights", suffering, and the "honoring of all life" in this world. In nature, there ARE no rights. All of the natural world is predicated on dominence and submission, with plants and animals precicely arrayed in a chain of predation and suffering of weaker species by those that are stronger.
So long as any animal on earth consumes the flesh of another creature, we cannot justify denying our neighbors, countrymen and fellow humans the right to do the same. Every cow that we do not eat will eventually fall to a wolf. Death is inescapable for any living thing. We can count the hundreds of thousands of animal killed in modern agriculture as a measure of how many will suffer and die. --Or, we can count the same multitude as how many saw life to begin with.
And for the most part, death in slaughterhouses is quick. That is NOT true for natural predation.
SASS has spoken.
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dinozoa
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1/30/2007 at 04:39 |
bullshit, and you know it
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nocal
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1/30/2007 at 05:18 |
Your argument is so poorly thought out
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