Wrecker:
I want to ask a serious question.

Jwalker, what are you going to do with all your free time once Bush is out of office and you don't have him to kick around anymore???

I mean seriously, are you going to set your sights on the next president with the same level of hatred and anger? It doesn't matter which party wins, they are both equally worthless. During the last election, what were the differences? Kerry's views were essentially the same as Bush's (at least part of the time, until he would change his mind.)

None of those fukers should be trusted, and the people most competent for the position are smart enough to know that they don't want it.

I remember growing up being told that anyone in this country can grow up to be President, and I believed it. In fact, I still do, but the bigger question is 'Who the hell wants to be President???'

Every move you make is scrutinized by everyone. Everyone essentially hates you and even with your party in the majority at the legislative level, you can't accomplish all that much becasue everyone has their own agenda.

Is Bush a good president? God no. Is he the worst President ever? Honestly, I'd have to go with no on that one as well.

The last president that wasn't universally hated seems to be Kennedy, and you saw where that got him. An overdose of vitamin Lead.

I guess my point here is that until there are sweeping changes in the public mindset, the President is going to be a Republicrat or a Dememublican and they will both do a shitty job driving this country into the ground.

Lewis Black summed it up best: We ahve a two party system. The party of no ideas, and the party of bad ideas.

So I ask again, whatever are you going to do when Bush is out of office? If you are going to bash the president regardless of his party affiliation, then I am right there with you. If however you are going to give a free pass to an idiot just because he's a democrat, then I'm going to have to question your integrity.

Wrecker: Fair enough answer. Just to be clear, I wasn't calling you out to pick a fight. I was just curious where you were coming from. You have answered that.

I can't say that I disagree with you either, in fact I think you might have it just about right.

The problem with disagreeing with this administration is that Rove and Co. are so good at spin that when you disagree on a valid point you're made to look like a Bush Bashing Nut and that is not always the case (you for example).

What doesn't help matters are the REAL Bush Bashing Nuts who if they thought for a second they could get someone to listen they would blame Bush for every disaster in the 20th century.

From Jwalkers opinion poll link-Republicans have structural advantages such as a political map where districts have been redrawn to put the party's incumbents in the House of Representatives into relatively safe districts.

Statements aimed at misleading grand jury investigators are hard-time offenses. It doesn't matter that Bush's too-clever little quip was made to the press and not under oath. I've cited press releases and comments in the New York Times in court as evidence of fraud. By not swearing to his disingenuous statement, Bush gets off the perjury hook, but he committed a crime nonetheless, "deliberate concealment."

Here's how the law works (and hopefully, it will). The Bush gang's use of the telephone in this con game constituted wire fraud. Furthermore, while presidents may leak ("declassify") intelligence information, they may not obstruct justice; that is, send a grand jury on a wild goose chase. Under the 'RICO' statute (named after the Edward G. Robinson movie mobster, 'Little Rico'), the combination of these crimes makes the Bush executive branch a "racketeering enterprise."

The Senate Judiciary Committee's third hearing on the NSA program marked a historic occasion in which four former members of the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance (FISA) Court of Review testified. The March 28 hearing consisted of the judges dodging questions regarding the legality of the program, while encouraging the committee to give the FISA court a role in determining the constitutionality of the NSA program. The judges also endorsed Judiciary Committee Chair Arlen Specter's (R-PA) position that the FISA court should exercise oversight of the program.

The Bush Administration, while publicly advocating diplomacy in order to stop Iran from pursuing a nuclear weapon, has increased clandestine activities inside Iran and intensified planning for a possible major air attack. Current and former American military and intelligence officials said that Air Force planning groups are drawing up lists of targets, and teams of American combat troops have been ordered into Iran, under cover, to collect targeting data and to establish contact with anti-government ethnic-minority groups. The officials say that President Bush is determined to deny the Iranian regime the opportunity to begin a pilot program, planned for this spring, to enrich uranium.

jwalker: But I also see a larger international problem regarding the WTO/IMF which really deserves a nutty forum thread of its own. Maybe dinozoa can start that one.

Wrecker: Hey jwalker, just a couple of items from your last post.

1) RICO stands for "Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations". The idea that the name came from some schmuck called "Little Rico" is pure speculation. In the grand scheme of things this is a small fact, but hey why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

While I understand that the left is looking for any reason they can get to use the old "turn about is fair play" routine (Clinton got impeached, so now let's impeach Bush, blah , blah, blah) they also need to understand that very little, and quite possibly nothing, is going to come from this.

2) Thanks for gloming onto my link about the Iran thing.

Wrecker: While I understand that the left is looking for any reason they can get to use the old "turn about is fair play" routine (Clinton got impeached, so now let's impeach Bush, blah , blah, blah) they also need to understand that very little, and quite possibly nothing, is going to come from this.

Wrecker: out of ALL the things that have been mentioned in this thread, how many have been actionable?

j Phone-jamming records point to White House

Don't know offhand, but I'd say the crime he's already admitted to (warrantless wiretaps) would be a good place to start.

"This is reckless reporting and for you all to go on the air this morning and make such a charge is irresponsible, and I hope that ABC would apologize for it and make a correction on the air."

The phone surveillance program, as CBS News Pentagon correspondent David Martin explains works like this:

An alleged terrorist with ties to al Qaeda is arrested overseas. Any American phone numbers he has on him or stored in his cell phone or laptop are turned over to the NSA. Under wartime powers approved by the president, the NSA immediately begins listening in on any international calls made to or from that number, without going through the standard legal procedure of first obtaining a court order to establish a probable cause that the person using the phone is part of the al Qaeda network, Martin explains.

The NSA also runs that same captured phone number through its database of phone records to determine all the calls made to and from that number inside the United States, again without having to obtain a court order. However, even under wartime powers, the NSA is still prohibited from actually listening to calls made within the United States; if a suspicious pattern emerges, it would have to get a court order before eavesdropping, reports Martin.

jwalker: Oh, and also Bush wants to set up armed troops on the south US border.

I'm going to go ahead and ask: since when is immigration such a big deal, and why? It seems like it just started up one day a few weeks ago and now talkshow hosts and newspapers are referring to it as the Big Deal of the Moment.