jwalker
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9/29/2005 at 04:18 |
azron123: LinkSwarm is one of the largest and most stable un moderated (or self moderated) communities on the internet and in a Darwinian sort of way it seems to be working.
and non-commercial - hooray
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9/29/2005 at 04:20 |
I really think everything is fine with the board. Everybody has a their own character. If anyone has read the post and forums would see how we really are then they would know yea you get blasted your first day of posting and then its down hill from there. So if you cant take the hazing then stay out of the swarm. everybody here gets bashed, so what haha its "teh funnay". So STFUSFWPLZKTHX
Oh yea.NO CLICKY NO WORKY
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9/29/2005 at 04:45 |
The only thing that really irks me here is the quality of moderation. Oh sure, feel free to quote my 30% fucking rejection bitterness rating (I think most of it is from submitting duplicate links that I didn't know were duplicate, early on in my "career"). But I noticed something happening: ever since the introduction of the Alpha queue, the links got a lot more mainstream, you don't get as much oddball stuff anymore. Maybe it's just my impression anyway, and maybe it's a good thing too. But I certainly don't see as much weird stuff show up on the site as I used to.
Another thing: can something be done regarding the rejection reasons? One cryptic and derogatory line is barely sufficient. I'd like to know all opinions, from the + and - votes. Some consistency would be nice too, but I just don't know how to enforce that.
Truenative: not a damn thing wrong with your avatar. But I disagree with you re: pissing matches, they are fun, and as the Romans used to say, "the truth is born in an argument." I think there should me more of that, even if the arguments are half-intelligent and mostly based on references to intercourse with footwear and your mom's behavior in college. I say the more interaction, the better off we all are.
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Too old to Rock and Roll...too young to die  SSHOLEPosts: 767 Registered: 8/19/2004 Offline
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9/29/2005 at 07:43 |
azron123: Jesus Fucking Christ! You assholes certainly know how to bitch.
Unfortunately, about 98% of the complaints I've seen so far are meaningless verbal flatuance.
Here's why.
1. Yes, we have run some "inside" jokes into the ground but they mostly were pretty funny and if done well might get another laugh in the future.
2. Yes, we have frightened away a lot of newbs but only the weak ones. Fuck 'em.
3. Yes, we have trashed some websites in the reviews that might have deserved a little better. What did they expect here. This is not Rainbow Brite Meets the Care Bears Dot Com.
4. Yes some of us have multiple personas ( I Don't) Who Cares? When I find out I usually think it's a pretty good joke.
5. Yes, some of us do post pics and comments that derail eachothers threads. If a thread is so weak that a pic of a fat chick or a dumb comment can derail it it deserves to die.
6. Yes, some people do spam. To me, spamming is when some cretin posts a link to a pay site or a site that tries to load your computer down with crudware in a place where it doesn't belong. If they want a review lets give them a review. If they submit it as a link it doesn't have to be accepted. If they put it any other place they need to get bitch slapped.
Other than #6 the only way to fix any of the things that I've heard complaints about would be to make a bunch of rules and have moderators enforce them.
Do any of you really want that?
I sure as shit don't.
Right now we have a sort of self moderating anarchy going on. We have very few rules and for the most part we don't seem to need any. LinkSwarm is one of the largest and most stable un moderated (or self moderated) communities on the internet and in a Darwinian sort of way it seems to be working.
There are some things that could use some change but the last thing we need is a bunch of rules about what we can say in our posts.
TESTIFY BROTHER!
RIGHT ON!
This place works- little things bug some people, myself included, but I can live with it. If I can't read your post 'cos it is written in LEET Speak, then I won't. You lose that round. The reality of it is this- IT WORKS, SO DON'T FUCK WITH IT!
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9/29/2005 at 13:17 |
Another thing: can something be done regarding the rejection reasons? One cryptic and derogatory line is barely sufficient. I'd like to know all opinions, from the + and - votes. Some consistency would be nice too, but I just don't know how to enforce that.
I mentioned something like this to vasudeva a while ago. I doubt it's possible to enforce consistency, sadly. You're always going to get people who don't take their responsibilty seriously and write something gay. Back when links didn't go into the AQ automatically when submitted, I could have cared less. Now that quality stuff is shooting in there without admin oversight I see it as more of a problem.
But I noticed something happening: ever since the introduction of the Alpha queue, the links got a lot more mainstream, you don't get as much oddball stuff anymore. Maybe it's just my impression anyway, and maybe it's a good thing too. But I certainly don't see as much weird stuff show up on the site as I used to.
Yeah, WTF dudes. Get to submitting some more weird stuff already. There's only so many cnn.com and OMGTEHHILARIOUSANDBIZARRR.com/news links we should put up as opposed to, say, octopussy, which will always be a winner.
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9/29/2005 at 13:19 |
azron: Other than #6 the only way to fix any of the things that I've heard complaints about would be to make a bunch of rules and have moderators enforce them.
Do any of you really want that?
I sure as shit don't.
I do not, but I don't think that was the point of this thread, either.
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ghostrider
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9/29/2005 at 14:24  |
hay kids, can we add 'meh' to the bad rejection reason list ?
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middle_age_man
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9/29/2005 at 14:31 |
I don't have anything to complain about as far as the posting is concerned. I figure that it's like any other media. If you don't like it or are offened by it, don't use it or support it with your cash. It would seem with the rush of paid members of late that there is more right than wrong with this place.
The AQ is my only real complaint. Too much good stuff gets rejected. I think the alphas need to log out more often and look at the front page just to see how spartan the swarm can be to an unpaid member.
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LORDKAHUNA
Don't make me fuk your moustache  SSHOLEPosts: 1667 Registered: 8/5/2003 Offline
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9/29/2005 at 14:40 |
dagwood: I hate how LK and his all caps , arrogance and self-righteous indignation at those who don't have 13,000009 fucking rad points scorns those who might be able to contribute, now or later.
OK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY ALLCAPS!
IRL, I’m an allcaps sort of dude, if it makes you hate, I have achieved my goal.
Indignation towards people who don’t have rad points?
I’d like to see where that has ever been the case. Don’t be a contrast and compare faggot, I’d act the same no matter how many rads I have.
P.S. --LS is a big locker room, and I’ve just caught you looking at my penis.
Self-righteous?
Well, comparing myself to tvaren/qwerty/babyheads/meeps that tend to crop up from time to time…um….yeah!
Indignant?
Only when people gay up the place I’ve come to love so much.
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9/29/2005 at 14:43 |
Dagwood: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TOOTH!
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azron123
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9/29/2005 at 15:43 |
SexNinjaMcDeath: azron: Other than #6 the only way to fix any of the things that I've heard complaints about would be to make a bunch of rules and have moderators enforce them.
Do any of you really want that?
I sure as shit don't.
I do not, but I don't think that was the point of this thread, either.
True. But that seems to be the direction it was going when I wrote the post.
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ragoo
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9/29/2005 at 17:02 |
middle_age_man: I think the alphas need to log out more often and look at the front page just to see how spartan the swarm can be to an unpaid member.
Nicely said. The front page does look somewhat anemic to the anonymous visitor.
I hate that I don't have time to read all the links and post more comments.
I hate to admit that it was the fuckery of Sexninja, Dumbskull and Slippedhole that kept me here. Sexnigga's been too quiet of late.
I hate that more of you fuckers don't post birthday pics for photoshopping. You're a bunch of pussies, the lot of you.
I hate the idea of contriving more rules on what is and is not acceptable. This is not a fucking democracy. I gave vas my 30 clams with the expectation that he would swing the fuckhammer--with great arbitrariness-- when peeps get out of line.
And I hate that so many of you are so much hipper than I am.
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Bad Taste in your Mouth  SSHOLEPosts: 4538 Registered: 3/8/2002 Offline
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9/29/2005 at 17:13 |
AcheronDCS: See. This is why I post so little. Most of the time I would be like "LOL DUDE". I can say that to my computer.
I think tantrum had the right of it. People like to hear when they do something that amuses people. I think it was Kahuna who brought up the "tossing in their nothing anyway" bit and I'm going to go out on a limb and say it wasn't about people posting LOL so much as people posting "I don't understand the problem you're trying to get help on cause it's way over my head but I'm posting to tell you that anyway." Maybe that's my filter; I could be wrong.
Gothmog: A ban system definitely has potential to be very unfair if it's implemented badly. I can see admins using it to squelch stuff they don't like personally. While I don't like that scenario, I figure the admins put in the time and energy to keep this place going, so they can enjoy a few power drunk moments here and there.
It takes a long time for me to put enough trust in a person to give them admin controls to LS. At the moment, there is only one other human besides myself who has any moderator status in the Forums. (There should probably be more, and definitely will be in the future.) I'm not going to hand some babyhead admin status and say go rock out; I'll be very clear on what calls for administrative action.
Squelching someone's post because of personal disagreement is about the highest crime I can imagine, and anyone who thinks I'd condone such a thing has drastically missed the point of me.
nocal: I hate that I'm bitching about the only site on the internet that can consistently entertain me in novel ways for hours on end. No one will ever be happy with what they're given.
Bitching is what I want you to do here. Nothing's 100% sunshine and this thread is your chance to tell me how.
I hate that various individuals are pointed out in this thread, especially SFW. Not to be a total gaywad, but after his annoying phase, he went on to basically open up a vein and spill his arterial blood all over some journal entries. He admits to some heavy shit, and basically gets people mocking him in return. He has said some valuable things, just like every other poster on Linkswarm...including Qwerty.
You're right. In fact, one of the things that I find fuking awesome about some other communities is the level of vulnerability the posters show each other. SFW may be off his meds but he's possibly achieving the same effect. We don't do that enough here, I think. I don't want anyone to feel like they can't actually say what's on their minds, or that they have to hide certain aspects of their lives because they'll be judged.
I want all that ugly shit right out in the open where it makes us all better. Pick off the scabs where we can all see. Some of us will retch a bit, but everyone wants a look anyhow.
I hate sarcasm, especially online. I hate whenever I use it.
Now you are dead to me.
dagwood: I hate that my bullshit trying to be funny reject reason for a shitty submission gets singled out while dozens of others slide by with, "meh" and, "I couldn't get the clicky to worky"
I singled that out because it was the clearest instance of misunderstanding I'd seen in a while, not because it was the worst by any means.
The reject reasons aren't meant to be funny little jokespaces for others to teehee at. They're meant to be valid reasons why that link isn't LinkSwarm-quality. People misusing this are wiping their asses with our main chunk of content.
Sometimes I fear when someone's looking at a link in the Alpha Queue they're not thinking "is this good enough that others will want to see it?" but rather "I'll reject this link if I can just find something funny to say about it."
Maybe you, dagwood, understood this already. Maybe you had a good reason to reject it but didn't put that in. I don't really have any way of knowing. I saw an ugly trend highlighted and commented accordingly.
Momad -yeah you're being too picky. good threads aren't easily derailed. The bizarre incongruity of random images can be some of the funniest shit here. Clavis posted one at some ranting newb, something like," I have no idea WTF, so here's a bunny with a pancake on its head." I really hate that such a simple device could actually bother someone, really I do.
I dunno. I think I've seen plenty of decent threads squelched because someone had a funny picture they were itching to post. I hope I'm wrong.
azron123: Jesus Fucking Christ! You assholes certainly know how to bitch. Unfortunately, about 98% of the complaints I've seen so far are meaningless verbal flatuance.
I disagree entirely. This is fuking gold.
I can't say I planned for this to work out the way it has, but I'm overjoyed with it nonetheless. This is probably the most information-rich thread I've seen in a long time. It's also some of the most pure and real feedback I've seen in forever.
Compliments are awesome, and I do see most of ones you guys make, dispersed throughout the site, and I always appreciate them 100% -- sometimes they're all that keeps me in this fuking game, cause it isn't always fun -- but the criticism is how I know what shit needs fixing. And I know a lot of you are already perfectly happy with what we have going on here, but I'm not perfectly happy with it. Nothing's probably ever perfect, but that doesn't stop me from trying. All systems need correction from time to time. Correction not in the sense of "county corrections facility" but correction in the sense of "course correction."
I'm really proud of what we've built over the past few years. I want to make it better because I love it, and think it has the potential to be the coolest community on the net -- in all ways, not just most ways.
Some of you have lived with large families all under one roof and understand that tensions build as you go through day-to-day life. You hate how Chip finishes off the milk without telling anyone, and you want Shasta to stop touching your shit because you know for a fact she doesn't wipe her big fat ass very well.
These tensions build and color your environment; if nothing's said or done about them they can become crippling.
Consider this the big family blowout where everyone shouts and points fingers and works that shit out. When we're done, I expect us to have great make-up sex for weeks. (Still using the family analogy.)
There are some things that could use some change but the last thing we need is a bunch of rules about what we can say in our posts.
I'm not talking about a police state. Take for example the time I banned Dumbskull from the forums for 24 hours because she once again first-posted to a relative newbie's thread to call him an asshole. I'd asked her not to do that three or four times before that. So, on this given day, I did something I'd never done before. I banned her from the forums. She flipped out, 24 hours later I unbanned her, and she doesn't do it anymore. I consider that a public good.
We were talking in IRC yesterday about this. A good idea, I think, is to introduce a "probation" period instead of an outright ban. Probation would mean you can't post for X hours, but you can still read everything. These wouldn't be handed out whimsically, or with prejudice, and the only people empowered to do so would be people I'd trust to moderate the forums intelligently. Azron, I've spoken to you before about making you a forums mod. The main reason I haven't is because there aren't a whole lot of tools to make it purposeful. I plan for this to change in the future, and give you and a few other peeps the power to put someone on probation for twelve hours because they posted a 1600-pixel-wide image for the fourth time this week, or because they scared off a newbie, or once again refused to pay attention when posting a link and screwed up the whole page for everybody.
Again, this is all theory at the moment. It'll roll around in my head for a few months as I take in input from anyone who has any.
dreymers: azron123: LinkSwarm is one of the largest and most stable un moderated (or self moderated) communities on the internet and in a Darwinian sort of way it seems to be working.
and non-commercial - hooray
Define non-commercial for me?
Crackalackin: The only thing that really irks me here is the quality of moderation. Oh sure, feel free to quote my 30% fucking rejection bitterness rating (I think most of it is from submitting duplicate links that I didn't know were duplicate, early on in my "career"). But I noticed something happening: ever since the introduction of the Alpha queue, the links got a lot more mainstream, you don't get as much oddball stuff anymore. Maybe it's just my impression anyway, and maybe it's a good thing too. But I certainly don't see as much weird stuff show up on the site as I used to.
It used to be just me approving the links. I was the filter. Now the filter is a micro-democracy comprised of the Alphas who care to vote and the occasional admin decision in the main queue.
Frankly, I think democracies tend to suck pretty badly in practice. Everything runs to mediocre.
I'm certain it can be fixed with a judicial application of logic. Giving certain Alphas' votes more or less weight depending on trends or something. You're a programmer. Help me out with your big brain.
P.S. Also start posting Slashdot links LOL ow.
Another thing: can something be done regarding the rejection reasons? One cryptic and derogatory line is barely sufficient. I'd like to know all opinions, from the + and - votes.
That's my next major fix. I'd like to require reasons at least for rejections... though I fear this might make lazy people not vote at all.
SexNinjaMcDeath: I mentioned something like this to vasudeva a while ago. I doubt it's possible to enforce consistency, sadly. You're always going to get people who don't take their responsibilty seriously and write something gay. Back when links didn't go into the AQ automatically when submitted, I could have cared less. Now that quality stuff is shooting in there without admin oversight I see it as more of a problem.
Speaking of responsibility, get cracking in the main link queue, nignog. I have you, kahuna, and Clavis all opped up and ready to rock, but I note it's had around 30 links in it for several days. The more links you guys are willing to process, the more I'll put directly in your hands and keep out of the AQ.
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mundhra
dread pirate neckbeard  SSHOLEPosts: 1666 Registered: 3/25/2002 Offline
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9/29/2005 at 17:45 |
vasudeva: It used to be just me approving the links. I was the filter. Now the filter is a micro-democracy comprised of the Alphas who care to vote and the occasional admin decision in the main queue.
Frankly, I think democracies tend to suck pretty badly in practice. Everything runs to mediocre.
i agree and this was the essence of my 'the aq is incredibly irritating' bitch a while ago.
I'm certain it can be fixed with a judicial application of logic. Giving certain Alphas' votes more or less weight depending on trends or something.
yis!
P.S. Also start posting Slashdot links LOL ow.
DON'T FORGET WIRED! *sniffle*
That's my next major fix. I'd like to require reasons at least for rejections... though I fear this might make lazy people not vote at all.
i don't see too much of a problem with that result. of course, you'd see tons of cut and paste mayhem with reject reasons just being the title and whatnot (unless... SANCTIONS!).
p.s. i hate 'show your boobs' posts, qwerty, and giant images. i figured i'd keep it timely, though. i have love/hate with tentacles, mainly because one set is fucking awesome and the rest have been relatively gay.
also?
SIG == HILARITY
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9/29/2005 at 19:17 |
i hate i can't preview before posting comments in the swarm or to journal entries.
i think this is from the fact that i tend to forget i need to use html, since most other sites give me no choice but bbcode. and bbcode works in the forums, but not comments, making it even more confusing. i always want to preview my posts just to be sure. i think this would help prevent broken links in comments and such. (at least it will for me)
other than that, i have no major qualms with the way the swarm is functioning. then again i also aint no alpha.
and links getting more tame? do you not remember LK's "haha I WIN!" link? what other site would have that, with or without a vote?!? i think you guys are either getting desensitized to these things or becoming more cautious when clicking on links. perception is reality.
there's still plenty of weird stuff. sure, maybe it's getting wattered down with more tame/newsy stuff. but the faster the swarm, the further between the really weird shit tends to get. but we want a fast swarm, cause we all like our swarm with ADD.
as for capping i's - oops sorry i do it too. like vlad, i'm pretty sure i picked it up from irc over a decade ago. i get more pissed off about people using "no" instead of "know" and other similar crapilicious illiterate confusions. i can usually overlook mispelling/mistyping, but that's just stupidity in my mind.
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jwalker
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9/29/2005 at 19:39 |
Vas: define non-commercial for me
No sarcasm intended. I mean that there aren't a bunch of "Place your ad here" blocks (I hate those things.) Better yet, there aren't *any*. I think this shows class and good taste on your part, and I'm guessing it helps to attract people of higher integrity to the site.
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9/29/2005 at 19:56 |
dreymers: Vas: define non-commercial for me
No sarcasm intended. I mean that there aren't a bunch of "Place your ad here" blocks (I hate those things.) Better yet, there aren't *any*. I think this shows class and good taste on your part, and I'm guessing it helps to attract people of higher integrity to the site.
It certainly was one of the first things that had me visiting more often when I first found the site.
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9/29/2005 at 19:59 |
dreymers: Vas: define non-commercial for me
No sarcasm intended. I mean that there aren't a bunch of "Place your ad here" blocks (I hate those things.) Better yet, there aren't *any*. I think this shows class and good taste on your part, and I'm guessing it helps to attract people of higher integrity to the site.
No, I know. I want to know how you define non-commercial cause it sounds good and I'd like to continue it.
There are actually "advertise here" bits but you only see one if you're logged in, and it's in text and out of the way. If you're not logged in, you see a second one, also text.
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Lefen
I think Clavis wins my heart <3  SSHOLEPosts: 903 Registered: 9/16/2003 Offline
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9/29/2005 at 20:06 |
Nooo, there is one adblock, but it's very understated.
Honestly, I think Vas could cash in a bit more on LS traffic - I'm not saying huge great Google ads or banners, but pimping the buy-a-text-link box a bit more could be quite beneficial.
Edit: quick reply, Vasudeva 
[Edited on 29/9/2005 by Lefen]
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9/29/2005 at 21:15 |
Linkswarm Beef NUMBER ONE!- The fact that ALL THE SHIT that I or others reject defiles tha same pristine PAGE of links I lookforward to checking out.
I Nominate A Reject ONLY Page!
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9/29/2005 at 21:58 |
HOLY FUCK
I can't believe the great pile of wonderful shit that this thread has become.
It's had everything from member beratings, (yours truly included) to "How to fix Linkswarm in 5 easy steps! The linkswarm isn't broken. Not from what I've read here anyways. It's filled with people that care enough to want to iron out the gliches, and most of them have some valid arguements.
If the frontpage is filled with bland links, or isn't the same old swarm that you old coggers remember, it isn't the fault of the Aplha Queue, as it stands today. Personaly, I read every word, and sift through every lame ass submission as if it were my own. My rejection reasonings, for the most part, do not rely on whether or not I personaly find something interesting, but if it holds it's own merit. ei: "Does it make sense?"
Saying that, I have no problems if Vas decides to make changes in the criteria that it takes to become Alpha. Even if it means losing my Alpha status. I don't have 200 posts, but I do have 100 link submissions, and I have been around for 3 months.( I know it was just a suggestion) I lived through the well deserved hazing I got when I first registered, and I'm still here. I try not to add my feed-back when I don't know, or have little interst in. I care about the swarm, and despite the burden of paying to Alpa up on my personal finances, I get a hard on reading all the positive input in a thread like this. Something I could have done without the expense. Thank you Vas
By the way, Vas; I won't take my Dr. Elizabeth Knutsan's advice, and e-mail you a biography of my life. She seems to think it would help if evryone knew where I was coming from. Fuck that! I'll stand on my contributions.
I will say, however, that I work for a company that holds the contract with EPS, (Edmonton Police Service) and I know how cruel human being can be to one another. I'm not talking about words posted in some thread in the internets. I'm talking about cleaning up blood spattered walls, that still have fecal, and gray matter stuck to it. If that makes me want to be all doe-eyed and see a little compassion spread around, then I am guilty. I realize that the swarm isn't the place for that, as Vas has so politely made apparent for the second time. (the delete button is my friend)
Using a little tact, and deplomacy can go along way. I may suggest, that if there is a n00b that is causing fuckery in the threads, that an honset sincere approach may straighten them out
Case in point: Primordial Soup:
Vas was away for most of his faggotry, and I pretty much kept my hands off of that train wreck. What I did do, when I saw it was getting really ugly, was to PM him. Using the nicest terms possible, I let him know why he should fuck-off, and die. By the time Vas got involved, he was already on his way out. In his last known posting, he thanked me for caring enough to PM him the error of his ways. Vas landed the final blow to the nails in his coffin, but he had already resigned himself to leaving.
Case # 2 I really stayed out of the mex incedent as well, but when I finally got involved, I used IMTranslator directly in the thread. Those of you who speak spanish know excatlly what I said to him. I think he may still be around, but from what I can tell, he took it to heart, and is a lot less verbose.
Neither case did I have to use flowery language to get the point across. Just man to man logic worked. If that is being doe-eyed, once again I'm guilty. I'm not saying that I am single-handedly responsible for the reactions of the said individuals to common sense, but I was fighting for the swarm, and never against it. Shit that should account for something around here. Even if it was behind the scenes.
Do I care about the swarm? HELL YEAH Is there too much sahlgoode in this posting? Maybe, but what I'm trying to say is that we are humans with little buttons extending our fingertips, reaching out in all our wonderful strengths, and vulnerabilities. Be proud that you can fuck up so royaly, and still walk away unscathed.
Linkswarm rules, as I was told upon regerstry: Rule #1: " You can be stupid, OR you can be boring, but you have to pick one, cause you can't do both. And that's the end of the rules."
The linkswarm isn't broke, as much as you think it is, when it's members write so compassionately about their fears of losing it's content, intent, and direction.
End of rah rah rant, (love it or hate it) and one more thing: I heart you guys
Thanks Vas for allowing me to see the heart of a great website.
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Bad Taste in your Mouth SSHOLEPosts: 4538 Registered: 3/8/2002 Offline
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9/29/2005 at 22:42 |
sahlgoode: Saying that, I have no problems if Vas decides to make changes in the criteria that it takes to become Alpha. Even if it means losing my Alpha status. I don't have 200 posts, but I do have 100 link submissions, and I have been around for 3 months.
There will definitely be eventual changes as regards who levels up when, but I'm not taking Alpha away from anyone as part of that.
I may be cruel, but I'm not vicious.
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shitbox
my balls your chin, get used to that idea SSHOLEPosts: 958 Registered: 1/9/2005 Offline
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9/29/2005 at 22:54 |
sahlgoode: HOLY FUCK.......blah blah blah...
Man, im really glad you appreciate the site....it IS fun and Vas DOES provide a nice little area for us to poo in but mayne, you take yourself WAY too seriously. Lighten tha fuck up fat baby avatar having muah-fucka!
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ghostrider
liberal exit SSHOLEPosts: 2502 Registered: 7/29/2004 Offline
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9/30/2005 at 00:02 |
are we ready fer teh fat chix ?
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9/30/2005 at 00:12 |
....or how about this!
I've been looking for somewhere to post this, and this isn't the place, so here ya go!
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Crackalackin
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9/30/2005 at 00:37 |
sahlgoode: ....or how about this! :image:
Dude, that's, like, me.
vasudeva: ... you are a programmer
Ouch! That hurts  I belive you stabbed me with this knife of demotion, sir (/me hands Vas a bloody dildo razor). I think I pitched a rather elaborate proposal in the "Azron's Ways of Fixing Stuff," and PM me if I wrote some intelligible mumble which needs clarification. I can formalize it for you, yo, an make it 'xplicit like the lyrics.
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vasudeva
Bad Taste in your Mouth SSHOLEPosts: 4538 Registered: 3/8/2002 Offline
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9/30/2005 at 00:56 |
Crackalackin: vasudeva: ... you are a programmer
Ouch! That hurts I belive you stabbed me with this knife of demotion, sir (/me hands Vas a bloody dildo razor). I think I pitched a rather elaborate proposal in the "Azron's Ways of Fixing Stuff," and PM me if I wrote some intelligible mumble which needs clarification. I can formalize it for you, yo, an make it 'xplicit like the lyrics.
I thought you were a programmr. No?
Your talk in the other thread is intriguing, though a little too densely forested for me, who is new to this science of statistics or engineering-math or whatever-the-fuk-it-is. I get the concept of weights, obviously, but manipulating those based on numbers that have some tie to real-world events is a giant can of worms, I'm finding. If you have the time, and wouldn't mind doing up a couple examples for me based on your ideas in the other thread, that'd be tits, baby. Tits.
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my balls your chin, get used to that idea SSHOLEPosts: 958 Registered: 1/9/2005 Offline
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9/30/2005 at 01:20 |
vasudeva: ...that'd be tits, baby. Tits.
Speaking of which, youve been around here a long time, ready to show em?
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mundhra
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9/30/2005 at 01:26 |
OY VEY!
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tantrum
I'm a big boy now!  SSHOLEPosts: 474 Registered: 11/23/2003 Offline
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9/30/2005 at 02:41 |
The linkswarm isn't broken.
Nobody has said that LS is broken. But I love the way your statement adds delicate drama to soap opera in your head.
If the frontpage is filled with bland links, or isn't the same old swarm that you old coggers remember, it isn't the fault of the Aplha Queue, as it stands today. Personaly, I read every word, and sift through every lame ass submission as if it were my own. My rejection reasonings, for the most part, do not rely on whether or not I personaly find something interesting, but if it holds it's own merit. ei: "Does it make sense?"
AQ greatness or gayness does not hinge on individual members.
By the way, Vas;
BIG UH-OH.
If that makes me want to be all doe-eyed and see a little compassion spread around, then I am guilty. I realize that the swarm isn't the place for that, as Vas has so politely made apparent for the second time. (the delete button is my friend)
***A MEASLY ELEVEN SENTENCES LATER*****
Neither case did I have to use flowery language to get the point across. Just man to man logic worked. If that is being doe-eyed, once again I'm guilty.
I hate being so critical and judgemental but I'm going to go for it anyway. I do it in the hopes of bettering us all. (yeah-e-yeah)
#5. I hate when members feel they have to kiss up to admins by confessing to their "shortcomings" but 11 sentences later justify and brag about their actions.
I wrote earlier that members should respect LS enough to not expect it to conform to their needs but in the same regard you should respect yourself enough to not conform to LS's needs.
You do the "make me squirm in my seat-uncomfortable feeling" REEEAALLY well, stick with that. 
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