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DonQuixote
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9/14/2005 at 18:44  |
This d00d
Will probably be the next chief justace, and will probably overturn Roe v Wade.
I've been listenting to the hearings on NPR. He's really good at not answering qwestions. The Democrats just can't hit him with anything to make him break.
Time to start heating up your coat hangers for those home abortions.
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vasudeva
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9/14/2005 at 19:04 |
I've been watching snippets of the confirmation hearings and this guy is no Bush.
I think I may almost like him. I definitely like his bearing, though he has a wierd i-may-be-about-to-weep quality to his face at times.
Feel free to rip me a new asshole below and point out lots of things I didn't take into account because I haven't researched shit about his decision trends apart from one or two slightly-misleading Planned Parenthood emails.
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dinozoa
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9/14/2005 at 19:25 |
CJ to be Roberts believes:
1. If you smoke pot you should go to jail
2. If you do anything worse than pot you should go to prison, preferably for the rest of his life.
3. Even if you're doing something harmless like LSD or opium, you are a danger to society because buying drugs is against the war on terror.
3. If somebody (doesn't matter who, could be a whacko) tells a cop that you smoke pot, this is reasonable enough suspicion to search your home without a warrant and bring evidence they find in the search, even if it is unrelated to the original charge, against you in court.
4. If you are gay you shouldn't be allowed to marry or adopt children.
5. If you are gay and male, you should be sent to prison, assuming you live in a righteous god-fearing state with anti-sodomy statutes.
6. The police have the ability to prosecute you for crimes committed in your own home, such as giving your kid a beer, without a search warrant, giving reasonable suspicion.
7. The patriot act is right and necessary and if you commit any crime, this is a terrorist act and you should be in prison for the rest of your life without a trial.
8. If you solicit a prostitute outside of the state of Nevada you should go to jail.
This guy is pure, unadulterated scum. The only reason anybody likes him is because he's not stupid scum, like Bush, or creepy scum, like Cheney, just bland, appetizing scum.
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vladtweano
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9/14/2005 at 19:43 |
I know little to nothing about this guy, because it's impossible to gather information about him that isn't supplied by his advocates or opponents. He isn't answering jack shit in these hearings, so the senators have started using the hearings to make speeches. I don't like the whole process even a little bit. It's a farce, so I'm tempted to say fuk it all, let's just have seven justices instead of nine.
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mundhra
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9/14/2005 at 20:33 |
vladtweano: I'm tempted to say fuk it all, let's just have a Penultimate Justice Tweano instead of nine.
fix't and newsletter subscribed to!
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vladtweano
DARTH MENSES Posts: 515 Registered: 3/11/2002 Offline
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9/14/2005 at 20:39 |
OH NOES!
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nocal
It's insane, this guy's taint  SSHOLEPosts: 811 Registered: 8/25/2004 Offline
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9/15/2005 at 00:12 |
dinozoa:
8. If you solicit a prostitute outside of the state of Nevada you should go to jail.
LOL someone has to pay for pussy LOL
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Stump
SENATOR BABYHEAD  Posts: 310 Registered: 6/18/2002 Offline
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9/15/2005 at 05:35 |
dinozoa: 6. The police have the ability to prosecute you for crimes committed in your own home, such as giving your kid a beer, without a search warrant, giving reasonable suspicion.
This guy is pure, unadulterated scum. The only reason anybody likes him is because he's not stupid scum, like Bush, or creepy scum, like Cheney, just bland, appetizing scum.
In some states this isn't true at all, it's perfectly legal in CT for a parent to provide a minor in their legal care with alcohol.
I've actually been watching most of this as it's been slow at work and I really like the guy, or at least the way he comes across. He's not taking any of the double entendre BS from the questioners and from what I've heard he'll be one of the stricter Constitutionalists we've had. |
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DonQuixote
DARTH MENSES Posts: 641 Registered: 4/22/2005 Offline
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9/15/2005 at 17:06 |
Big John has a few hours of questions left, then come the witnesses. Lets all hope witnesses for him suck and witnesses against RAWK.
VAS - If I didn't completely disagree with his reading of LAW in general (old fight spirit of the law vs letter of the law) I might actually like him to . He's really fucking quick. I mean three days of probing questions and not a single faltered word. I can barely answer what my real name is most of the time without stuttering. He spoke with clarity and conviction for three days straight. No matter what he was saying, and he said alot of words but did not divulge much info. He's good. The type of lawyer you want on your side. Unfortuneatley he plays for satan (reagan admin now Bush, definately evil). So we're fucked.
Also I noticed you changed your avatar back to the devil character. I like this one better than the hitler one. Its more of a portrait than an action scene.
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dinozoa
SENATOR BABYHEAD Posts: 319 Registered: 7/18/2004 Offline
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9/16/2005 at 01:23 |
Stump:
In some states this isn't true at all, it's perfectly legal in CT for a parent to provide a minor in their legal care with alcohol.
You're forgetting about federal crimes, ie smoking marijuana, owning illegal guns/ammunition, etc.
Did I forget? Roberts is totally a supporter of the MPAA and RIAA. If he had his way, anybody who downloads an mp3 or movie would be doing jail time.
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dinozoa
SENATOR BABYHEAD Posts: 319 Registered: 7/18/2004 Offline
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9/16/2005 at 01:29 |
Stump:
I've actually been watching most of this as it's been slow at work and I really like the guy, or at least the way he comes across. He's not taking any of the double entendre BS from the questioners and from what I've heard he'll be one of the stricter Constitutionalists we've had.
You know who else is a "strict constitutionalist"? Scalia. He finds the right to privacy isn't in the constitution.
In his discussions of the patriot act, among others, he seems to ignore pretty much all of the bill of rights, although, since the patriot act doesn't require civilians to house soldiers, I don't see where the 3rd ammendment comes into it. |
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DonQuixote
DARTH MENSES Posts: 641 Registered: 4/22/2005 Offline
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9/16/2005 at 03:52 |
So far John is winning this battle. Not one solid shot to his chin or even the body. He can really bob and weave. He even started with a baseball analogy. "Judges are like umpires, they don't make the rules they just apply them." Now what does that really mean. That he calls him as he sees them or that a strike is a strike. Or that he linked himself to the super happy nationalism that all Bush Admin people are doing all the time. Now all he has to do is try and scare the general public with a trumped up chart of fear and he will fit right in.
Home Abortion Kit tools:
Duct tape (when won't you need duct tape honestly)
Metal Coat Hanger
A lighter, preferably a low heat torch of some kind.
A nice vacume cleaner with extensions. Remove all filters and just bypass them.
Some plastic tubing flexible and small no bigger than 1/2 inch wide.
Astroglide - LOTS of it
You liquor of choice. Highest octane you can get though.
Diurections - Straighten out the coat hanger. Fold it in half. Take the end with the fold and try to make a little circle (try wrapping that fold around a golf ball, remember not to big for the birth canal) and then twiste the rest of the hanger down. Wrap the twisted handle in duct tape. The more the merrier. So you have a small hoop with a fairly strong handle. Heat the loop at the end of the hangle till it glows but not past the melting point remember these are shitty metal coat hangers so don't over do it fire boy. Get the biatch drunk as fuck, rum 151 + rufies is a good start. Now lube up that bitch. Use a whole tube of whatever vaseline, astroglide etc etc users choice. Loosen her up as much as possible. (Now is the time to explore fisting. She's piss drunk she won't care) Take the coat hanger (now sterilized by heat) and poke it up (gently) into the birth canal (not the urinary tract!!! jackhole). Once you reach the cervix (sorta looks like a little donught) push the loop gently through the cervix. Take a swig of the rum cause you are about to do some nasty shit.
Visualize the uterous. Its about the size of a fist and shaped kinda like a funnle. You just entered this shape from the bottom of the funnle. now probe the uterine walls a little become familliar with how the shape feels from the inside.
Time for more liquor.
Once you are confident that you think you can, you are going to begin to scrape the uterine wall with the hanger. Be methodical. Make sure every inch of wall is scraped ALL the way around. You don't have to push to hard unless you hit babby (depends on how far along she is anything past 6 months and this gets alot harder to do, in fact I wouldn't reccomend it after three months. Actually I wouldn't recommend this at all but just in case you are in a tight spot) If you feel something snag the loop about the middle of the wall. Then you can be sure that is baby. Make sure you gently but force fully pull that little paracite off the wall. Really all you have to do is kill the little bugger or damage it till it can't live for very long. Better safe than sorry though. Anyways its not really an exact science this is a home abortion.
Once you have made sure that you scraped the wall completely you are ready to suck out all that is left of the unterine lining and with any luck at all a zygote (fertalized egg).
Take the vacume cleaner (not a bag one, one with a plastic catch for the dirt, or even better a shop vac, but those are not cheap). Take the extension and use the duct tape and the plastic tubing to create a suction tube. Think of that thing that sucks spit out of your mouth at the dentist. at the opening of the extension put about four inches of tube in the opening. Go to town with the duct tape. Make sure you have a tight seal cause you need as much suction as possible. Now wash that tube with soap and water, then with the liquar or iodine if you have it. Push the tube into the birth canal and again through the cervix and into the uterous. Now vacume up!!! (NOTE: the reason you have removed the filters in the vacume cleaner is cause the shit that is going to come out of that vag would just clog them up and you would lose sucktion immediately.) This part can be a little nasty so well make sure you are a little drunk and not sqeamish. Little chunks of the uterine wall will start coming out as well as bloodand and, depending on the term of the pregnancy, some baby bits or maby a little clump of cells. Throw that shit away.
The gal is going to be in PAIN for quite some time. Hopefully she isn't sterile but, honestly if she let you do this in the first place she isn't a good prospect for breeding. She'll need a heating pad for SEVERE cramps (you just started her period in a very unhappy way). If she just keeps bleeding and bleeding then you fuckt up. Take her to a hospital. But if all went well, she should heal up in a couple of weeks. Ready to start fucking again.
Hooray for pro life
People do this. Seriously. Its called a "Back alley abortion". Its unsafe and traumatizing. But it can make you alot of cash if you get good at it and perfect your technique.
Keep ROE V WADE safe. Or there will be fucups actually trying this shit.
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Stump
SENATOR BABYHEAD Posts: 310 Registered: 6/18/2002 Offline
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9/16/2005 at 06:07 |
I wonder what Bill Hicks would have to say to all this.
One thing that bothrs me is Roberts use of that baseball/umpire quote, another judge had used it back in June. I'd need to look it up to tell you who. I think most of us on this site, claiming Repub or Denm really lean more towards the Libertarian Ideal and would hope the court was there as a check as originally intended, not as a policy maker.
Dinozoa, I pointed out a specific case in your argument, my take s there are many things the Fed should have no say in, in the first case you bring up it's moot, as some states (California, Nevada) are ignoring or skirting the rules, which will lead to other states foing the same eventually. I
n the second case you state, how ignorant are you? An illegal weapon is an illegal weapon. A citizen who has gone through a gun saftey course or been enlisted in the military and can pass a test should be allowed to carry a weapon. Gun laws are broken by criminals, not law abiding citizens. You or I would purchase and register a weapon (maybe not I as I believe they will eventually come for our guns), the common criminal picks it up off the streets. The only person a gun law hurts is you, the law abiding citizen. Go to Megarad.com and read Loki's Last call posts. |
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dinozoa
SENATOR BABYHEAD Posts: 319 Registered: 7/18/2004 Offline
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9/16/2005 at 07:58 |
Stump: I wonder what Bill Hicks would have to say to all this.
Dinozoa, I pointed out a specific case in your argument, my take s there are many things the Fed should have no say in, in the first case you bring up it's moot, as some states (California, Nevada) are ignoring or skirting the rules, which will lead to other states foing the same eventually.
The DEA arrested a bunch of cancerous invalids in Santa Cruz and is currently trying to prosecute Canadians. California and Canada can skirt the rules all the want, but when US federal agents come and arrest you, and try you under all sorts of patriot act powers, then you are fucked. And John Roberts wants you fucked, because there is a War on Terrorism, and your drug money is supporting Terror.
stump:
In the second case you state, how ignorant are you? An illegal weapon is an illegal weapon. A citizen who has gone through a gun saftey course or been enlisted in the military and can pass a test should be allowed to carry a weapon. Gun laws are broken by criminals, not law abiding citizens. You or I would purchase and register a weapon (maybe not I as I believe they will eventually come for our guns), the common criminal picks it up off the streets. The only person a gun law hurts is you, the law abiding citizen. Go to Megarad.com and read Loki's Last call posts.
I don't really want to argue with this because I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. I think I agree with you in that I disapprove of gun laws because they blindly punish those with guns, without considering the purpose to which the guns are put. There's a saying in Oakland, "a gun in the hand beats a cop on the phone any day."
My point here is John Roberts is a serious federalist, and he believes if you're a devout muslim and you have assault weapons, you should be arrested under the patriot act as an enemy combatant and never brought to trial and this is perfectly legal and right. |
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acheron
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9/16/2005 at 15:15 |
or you can just be arrested under normal laws against such weapons.
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Uart
DARTH MENSES  Posts: 1228 Registered: 3/5/2005 Offline
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9/16/2005 at 17:26 |
vasudeva: I think I may almost like him. I definitely like his bearing, though he has a wierd i-may-be-about-to-weep quality to his face at times.
Me too. I expect to take shit about that.
dinozoa: 1. If you smoke pot you should go to jail
2. If you do anything worse than pot you should go to prison, preferably for the rest of his life.
3. Even if you're doing something harmless like LSD or opium, you are a danger to society because buying drugs is against the war on terror.
We're not electing him dictator. As Chief Justice he has one vote that can decide what a drug law means. Cases also don't usually originate in the Supreme Court, so he can't hand out a sentence. If the law says drugs are illegal, he has to interpret it as such. Elect a libertarian to congress if you don't like that.
3. If somebody (doesn't matter who, could be a whacko) tells a cop that you smoke pot, this is reasonable enough suspicion to search your home without a warrant and bring evidence they find in the search, even if it is unrelated to the original charge, against you in court.
When did he say this/support this in trial. I've never heard that, but I'm sure you are wrong. Additionally, I fail to see many instances of a case like that getting to the supreme court.
5. If you are gay and male, you should be sent to prison, assuming you live in a righteous god-fearing state with anti-sodomy statutes.
State's rights, w00t! Don't make me like him any more or I might shit myself k? There is no constitutional rule that says that state's can't make laws like that. None. You can invent rights and privileges as much as you want, but its not going to make anal sex legal in Arkansas -- move to New York or LA and you can stick it in as man-holes as you like.
6. The police have the ability to prosecute you for crimes committed in your own home, such as giving your kid a beer, without a search warrant, giving reasonable suspicion.
Crimes committed in your own home, you mean like beating your wife? If its apparent from outside that you're doing something sketchy inside, the police can and should come in. You want them to ignore a woman's screams of pain?
8. If you solicit a prostitute outside of the state of Nevada you should go to jail.
Probably because it's illegal outside of the State of Nevada. STATES RIGHTS AGAIN, DOUBLE-W00T!!!
stump: from what I've heard he'll be one of the stricter Constitutionalists we've had.
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dinozoa
SENATOR BABYHEAD Posts: 319 Registered: 7/18/2004 Offline
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9/16/2005 at 19:25 |
I'm not saying that John Roberts will single handedly hunt down and punish pot growers and bittorrent users. I recognize the powers and limitations of the supreme court, and realize that most of the statements I've made about Roberts beliefs probably can't be backed up with transcripts of opinions or whatever. He's too much of a slippery freak to let his opinions get pinned down on something like gun control or pornography.
However:
Let's not all get in line to suck his cock. He may not be as evil as Cheney or Bush, but that doesn't mean he's not evil. When you say "you like this guy" as your next chief justice, you're ignoring that he is a tool of the legal establishment, and the establishment has already made rulings on the Bill of Rights that limit your civil liberties. Roberts, unless he is a hippie in disguise, will not overturn these rulings, and will likeley not review the patriot act, which has been upheld in the federal appeals courts.
The basic question is, who would you rather have as your supreme court justice? Somebody you "almost like", or Tommy Chong? |
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Senor_Smoke
SENATOR BABYHEAD  Posts: 286 Registered: 9/9/2004 Offline
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9/16/2005 at 20:58 |
and will probably overturn Roe v Wade.
Q: So what are your thoughts on Roe v Wade,Mr.Bush?
A: I DON`T GIVE A FUCK HOW THEY GET OUT OF NEW ORLEANS!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA......I crack me up sometimes.....
/lame humor
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vasudeva
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9/30/2005 at 17:06 |
http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/John_G._Roberts_Jr.
Sorta unsettling.
Trying to find more sources for his past decisions, cause I think they culled out the most provocative ones there.
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It's insane, this guy's taint SSHOLEPosts: 811 Registered: 8/25/2004 Offline
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9/30/2005 at 20:15 |
Habeas Corpus
Joined a unanimous opinion denying the claim of a prisoner who argued that by tightening parole rules in the middle of his sentence, the government subjected him to an unconstitutional after-the-fact punishment. The panel reversed its decision after a Supreme Court ruling directly contradicted it. (Fletcher v. District of Columbia, 2004)
That one seems totally obvious to me. It's scary that Roberts would actually try to claim that tightening restrictions in the middle of a sentence for no reason is ok.
Bray v. Alexandria Women’s Health Clinic
Also as Deputy Solicitor General, Roberts filed an amicus curiae brief in support of Operation Rescue and named individuals who routinely blocked access to clinics. The brief argued that the protesters’ behavior did not discriminate against women and that blockades and clinic protests were protected speech under the First Amendment. This case, Bray v. Alexandria Women's Health Clinic, spurred the Congress to enact the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act.
So physically blocking people from entering a clinic falls under Robert's definition of "free speech?" Well, if it stops abortions! That also scares me.
Which leads to the next point. Roberts claimed:
"Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land," and "There is nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."
But in Rust v Sullivan, he states:
“[w]e continue to believe that Roe was wrongly decided and should be overruled… The Court’s conclusion in Roe that there is a fundamental right to an abortion… finds no support in the text, structure, or history of the Constitution.”
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