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9/13/2005 at 13:28

LOki: I just want to point out that I did not vote for any of the ass-rapists who did all the bad things, or did none of the good things relevant to the Katrina response; nor did I vote for the other ass-rapist who would also have done all the wrong things and fail to do all of the good things. I voted against ass-rape, but I'll just bet that none of the finger pointing turds we've all seen posted here can say that; I'll bet that I'm in a tiny minority of posters in this thread who can say that.


*Voted no to assrape.






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9/13/2005 at 13:34

And it's about on par with the furiously snarky BUSHSUX cockwitches so frequently presented

oh cmon. you know why it's so frequently presented? because it's presented by A BAZILLION FUKING PEOPLE, JOURNALISTS AND OTHERWISE, WHO ARE NOT NAMED FREEPER MITCH RUNNING A GARBAGE "NEWS" SITE OUT OF MOM'S BASEMENT. join the reality-based community, lokes. i know you want to.

You're not there--Jason van Steenwyk is.

oh. OH! well this changes everything.

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everyone shut up. jason van steenwyk says you're wrong.






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9/13/2005 at 14:40

vladtweano:
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Is Bush the commanding, decisive, jovial president you've been hearing about for years in so much of the mainstream press?

Who but only the most rabid Bush supporter ever believed that? Commanding and decisive?






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9/13/2005 at 14:51

vladtweano: And it's about on par with the furiously snarky BUSHSUX cockwitches so frequently presented

oh cmon. you know why it's so frequently presented? because it's presented by A BAZILLION FUKING PEOPLE, JOURNALISTS AND OTHERWISE, WHO ARE NOT NAMED FREEPER MITCH RUNNING A GARBAGE "NEWS" SITE OUT OF MOM'S BASEMENT. join the reality-based community, lokes. i know you want to.
"I reject your [reality-based community] and replace it with my own."

I don't care that a "bazillion" morons are in agreement--I don't care that a bajillion morons are in disagreement--I care that morons are being taken seriously, as if they ... were ... not ... morons.

vladtweano: You're not there--Jason van Steenwyk is.

oh. OH! well this changes everything.

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everyone shut up. jason van steenwyk says you're wrong.
Yeah. It should change quite a bit. I'm more inclined to listen to the folks on site doing shit.

I'm less inclined to take seriously any conclusion that BUSHSUX from a BUSHSUX0R based on their BUSHSUX perfectly oriented bias on the facts.

BUSHSUX0R says the guard was all in Iraq eating babies and showed up too late.
BUSHFLUFF0R says the guard stepped into a magical FEMA time machine and showed up 15 nano-seconds after Katrina passed.

I see "the guard showed up." Then I look for when and decide for myself what too late means. I have not come to the conclusion that anything could have really happened faster than it did, with the exception of the evacuation.

I would love to make the claim that Bush fuked that up, but that is not intellectually honest. The locals fuked that up, the locals fuked up their own relief efforts, and fuked up the federal relief efforts. The Katrina Debacle is 100% pure local fuk-up.

The federal gripe I see is that the Dept. of Homeland Security could not make FEMA more effective that it otherwise is not, and we are paying for that shit.

That is a function of bullshit bureauocracy, which Bush is not the lone proponent of (see every democrat EVER!).

The one thing that is striking to me is that Bush left the local Democrat BUSHSUX bunch to do their jobs, and they failed in the most egregious manner ever, and then they blame him for that. When he arrives after they fuked themselves in the ass, he manages to make things better--but it is judged to be "too late" by this same Democrat BUSHSUX bunch which did nothing right on time or otherwise.

As this realization starts to rise, the Democrat BUSHSUX bunch start leveling the "racism" charges that indicate to me that they have no legitimate gripes in the face of their own incompitence and negligence.

It is the local official's and negligence that is glaring at me constantly in this, not Bush's. This is not to claim that Bush is competent, it's just to say that the MSM attempt to fan the flame of Bush's incompetence fails to make it brighter than the white hot glare that is coming off the incompitence and negligence of the locals--except in the unusually sensitive and prejudiced eyes of the BUSHSUX0R clans.

Really, I'm not sure Bush really had anything to do with any of it regardless of what the BUSHSUX0Rs say, or what the BUSHFLUFF0Rs say. What I'm really sure of is that the local officials, those right there where Katrina stuck (rather than those in D.C. or Crawford or Jupiter), who are actually the ones charged with the preparation and execution of emergency plans, are clearly, without exception, inexcusably at fault for any excessive misery resultant from inadequate relief efforts. That patently clear reality seems to be monumentally understated by your "reality-based community" in favor of attacking Bush.

Is this understatement the result of genuinely feeling sorry for everyone in Katrina's wake--or is it genuine political bullshit?

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9/13/2005 at 14:54

vasudeva: Who but only the most rabid Bush supporter ever believed that? Commanding and decisive?


it was all over the last campaign. apparently some people bought it.







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9/13/2005 at 14:58

vasudeva:
vladtweano:
petulant


Is Bush the commanding, decisive, jovial president you've been hearing about for years in so much of the mainstream press?

Who but only the most rabid Bush supporter ever believed that? Commanding and decisive?


Bush? I think Rush Limbaugh would say that, but the MSM?

Maybe these fuks listen to too much AM radio.






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vasudeva: *Voted no to assrape.


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LOki: I don't care that a "bazillion" morons are in agreement--I don't care that a bajillion morons are in disagreement--I care that morons are being taken seriously, as if they ... were ... not ... morons.

i see. this isn't a monumental cock-up all the way to the top. we're just morons.

Yeah. It should change quite a bit. I'm more inclined to listen to the folks on site doing shit.

except that you're not, unless they're supporting your argument.

have not come to the conclusion that anything could have really happened faster than it did, with the exception of the evacuation.

oh. ok. what?

I would love to make the claim that Bush fuked that up, but that is not intellectually honest. The locals fuked that up, the locals fuked up their own relief efforts, and fuked up the federal relief efforts. The Katrina Debacle is 100% pure local fuk-up.

the locals fuked up the federal relief efforts. right. you imbue them with as much supervillainy power as you claim that bush does not have. let's hear it for intellectual honesty.

The federal gripe I see is that the Dept. of Homeland Security could not make FEMA more effective that it otherwise is not, and we are paying for that shit. That is a function of bullshit bureauocracy, which Bush is not the lone proponent of (see every democrat EVER!).

re: blah blah evil democrats - did you happen to see what fema was capable of under clinton? or were you too busy being outraged that he lied about a blow job (which you were)? and did you happen to notice who hired james lee witt after katrina? blanco the evil BUSHSUXXORdemocratBLARGSPITTLE, that's who, but i'm sure she was only motivated by politics.

re: failure of bullshit bureaucracy. its failure was evident immediately. where was the boss? why didn't he correct it? (hint: "what didn't go right?") if he was incapable, why didn't he even try?

The one thing that is striking to me is that Bush left the local Democrat BUSHSUX bunch to do their jobs, and they failed in the most egregious manner ever, and then they blame him for that.

really? please point me to an example of nagin or blanco blaming bush for a failure that was obviously theirs, because in all of this, i haven't seen it, and i know you wouldn't just make this up.

When he arrives after they fuked themselves in the ass, he manages to make things better--but it is judged to be "too late" by this same Democrat BUSHSUX bunch which did nothing right on time or otherwise.

holy shit dude GO! SUCK THAT PECKER! DON'T FORGET TO WORK THE BALLS!

This is not to claim that Bush is competent,

yes, it absolutely is.

What I'm really sure of is that the local officials, those right there where Katrina stuck (rather than those in D.C. or Crawford or Jupiter), who are actually the ones charged with the preparation and execution of emergency plans, are clearly, without exception, inexcusably at fault for any excessive misery resultant from inadequate relief efforts.

you had me until "any excessive misery". if you were actually paying attention, you'd see that there's plenty of blame going around for BUSHSUXORevildemocratBLARGSPITTLE nagin and blanco, and they're even admitting it themselves (hey look, somebody who can admit a mistake). and you know what? i'll be perfectly happy if their BUSHSUXORevildemocratBLARGSPITTLE heads roll, as long as the heads keep rolling all the way to the top. how about you? i'm betting nope.

Is this understatement the result of genuinely feeling sorry for everyone in Katrina's wake--or is it genuine political bullshit?

and here, after all that, we get to the crux of your reticence. "fuk accountability, fuk pragmatism, it's all blatant politics with you fukkers, I JUST KNOW IT."






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9/13/2005 at 16:04

LOki: The Katrina Debacle is 100% pure local fuk-up.

I call bullshit.

They are both to blame. Stop making excuses.

Mental image: a bunch of nincompoop posers running around waving their arms yelling "I don't know what to do! I don't know what to do!"






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9/13/2005 at 16:06

LOki:
mundhra: don't republicans always preach smaller gov't? wonder if those reduction revamps have the same result in making the government bigger? DHS, perhaps?

We know now that it was the gross incompetence, over an extended period of time, of local Democrat controlled government that has been the cause of this mess.

OH NOES, the DEMOCRATS BOOGYMEN!!
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dreymers: thx for the lnx - it's good to see another perspective. But you know what bugs me is that they are bashing dems as much as they are defending reps. They might do better by sticking to the point instead of trying to change people's politics.

LOki: As far as I can tell, each election has been about which slave master will be the kindest to us--which one will give us the hot table scraps from the meal we provided. Everyone is focused on, and argues about which ass-rapist uses the most lotion and the gentlest thrust.

I just want to point out that I did not vote for any of the ass-rapists who did all the bad things, or did none of the good things relevant to the Katrina response; nor did I vote for the other ass-rapist who would also have done all the wrong things and fail to do all of the good things. I voted against ass-rape, but I'll just bet that none of the finger pointing turds we've all seen posted here can say that; I'll bet that I'm in a tiny minority of posters in this thread who can say that.

WELCOME TO LOKILAND!!!!!!!!!

WELCOME TO CIRCUMVENTING THE POINT!

you provided linkage illustrating/supporting your view on this issue. but then again, HEY GUYS THAT'S NOT ME OR WHAT I'D SAY.

stay the course, my man. stay the course.

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vladtweano:
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Is Bush the commanding, decisive, jovial president you've been hearing about for years in so much of the mainstream press?

Who but only the most rabid Bush supporter ever believed that? Commanding and decisive?

making a decision and not flip-flopping is commanding and decisive.

you don't actually have to be right, though. and you can ride that bomb down with CONFIDENCE.







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9/13/2005 at 16:51

I think we all expected this.

Right guys!?!?!






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9/13/2005 at 17:00

"...to the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said

except that he doesn't, and won't







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SexNinjaMcDeath: I think we all expected this.

Right guys!?!?!

hrm. guess rove thought his spin wasn't working.






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9/13/2005 at 17:34

vladtweano:
LOki: I don't care that a "bazillion" morons are in agreement--I don't care that a bajillion morons are in disagreement--I care that morons are being taken seriously, as if they ... were ... not ... morons.

i see. this isn't a monumental cock-up all the way to the top. we're just morons.
That's about right ... I guess.

vladtweano:
LOki: Yeah. It should change quite a bit. I'm more inclined to listen to the folks on site doing shit.

except that you're not, unless they're supporting your argument.
HAHAHA! Speak for yourslef and your moveon.org drumbeat sir (or what George Soros says or whatever)!

vladtweano:
LOki: I would love to make the claim that Bush fuked that up, but that is not intellectually honest. The locals fuked that up, the locals fuked up their own relief efforts, and fuked up the federal relief efforts. The Katrina Debacle is 100% pure local fuk-up.

the locals fuked up the federal relief efforts. right. you imbue them with as much supervillainy power as you claim that bush does not have. let's hear it for intellectual honesty.
Yes. Let's.

vladtweano:
LOki: The federal gripe I see is that the Dept. of Homeland Security could not make FEMA more effective that it otherwise is not, and we are paying for that shit. That is a function of bullshit bureauocracy, which Bush is not the lone proponent of (see every democrat EVER!).

re: blah blah evil democrats - did you happen to see what fema was capable of under clinton? or were you too busy being outraged that he lied about a blow job (which you were)?[Note form LOki: Uh, no. I was outraged that his lies under oath got him into zero trouble compared to the jail time and beatings at the hands of unsympathetic cops that you and (or, at least) I would get.] and did you happen to notice who hired james lee witt after katrina? blanco the evil BUSHSUXXORdemocratBLARGSPITTLE, that's who, but i'm sure she was only motivated by politics.
FEMA was the same kind of suck under Clinton that I see it is now, my worry is that the kind of suck it is now might be worse for being incorporated into the DHS--that you won't see that pretty much validates my criticism of this pervasive and deafening BUSHSUX hum that prevents you guys from hearing anything that ever so remotely fails to affirm your commitment to the church of BUSHSUX.

vladtweano: re: failure of bullshit bureaucracy. its failure was evident immediately. where was the boss? why didn't he correct it? (hint: "what didn't go right?") if he was incapable, why didn't he even try?
You can't fool me into believing that had Bush cowboyed his way in, the BUSHSUX0rs wouldn't be beating a Violation of States Rights accusation on the BUSHSUX drums, followed by the inevitable, BUSH IS SHOOTING THE (BLAYCKS) LOOTERS (remember Kent State!) racism crotch grab when these federal storm(heh)troopers start enforcing order at gunpoint.

vladtweano:
LOki: The one thing that is striking to me is that Bush left the local Democrat BUSHSUX bunch to do their jobs, and they failed in the most egregious manner ever, and then they blame him for that.

really? please point me to an example of nagin or blanco blaming bush for a failure that was obviously theirs, because in all of this, i haven't seen it, and i know you wouldn't just make this up.
One example: "Bush did not respond fast enough."

vladtweano:
LOki: When he arrives after they fuked themselves in the ass, he manages to make things better--but it is judged to be "too late" by this same Democrat BUSHSUX bunch which did nothing right on time or otherwise.

holy shit dude GO! SUCK THAT PECKER! DON'T FORGET TO WORK THE BALLS!
Oh no you don't, you Michael Moore Man Tit Suckler! From most of the accounts that I've read or heard, the complaint has not been that once Bush took action, those actions were ineffective, but that the action was so late that it was the cause of all the misery.

You can't eat your fuking cake and then have it.

vladtweano:
LOki: This is not to claim that Bush is competent,

yes, it absolutely is.
No, it's not--at least it's not a claim that I am making.

vladtweano:
LOki: What I'm really sure of is that the local officials, those right there where Katrina stuck (rather than those in D.C. or Crawford or Jupiter), who are actually the ones charged with the preparation and execution of emergency plans, are clearly, without exception, inexcusably at fault for any excessive misery resultant from inadequate relief efforts.

you had me until "any excessive misery". if you were actually paying attention, you'd see that there's plenty of blame going around for BUSHSUXORevildemocratBLARGSPITTLE nagin and blanco, and they're even admitting it themselves (hey look, somebody who can admit a mistake). and you know what? i'll be perfectly happy if their BUSHSUXORevildemocratBLARGSPITTLE heads roll, as long as the heads keep rolling all the way to the top. how about you? i'm betting nope.
I'll take your bet.

What's your problem with the "any excessive misery" part?

vladtweano:
LOki: Is this understatement the result of genuinely feeling sorry for everyone in Katrina's wake--or is it genuine political bullshit?

and here, after all that, we get to the crux of your reticence. "fuk accountability, fuk pragmatism, it's all blatant politics with you fukkers, I JUST KNOW IT."
Yeah. That just about (not perfectly, but just about) covers my bitch.






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White and black Americans view the federal response in starkly different ways, with more blacks viewing race as a factor, according to another CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey released Monday.

WHOA WHOA WHOA, WHAT'S THIS?






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dreymers:
LOki: The Katrina Debacle is 100% pure local fuk-up.

I call bullshit.

They are both to blame. Stop making excuses.

Mental image: a bunch of nincompoop posers running around waving their arms yelling "I don't know what to do! I don't know what to do!"

You can't post 2 links supporting my position and then tell me it's bullshit!

I don't even know how that works!

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9/13/2005 at 17:38

mundhra: WELCOME TO CIRCUMVENTING THE POINT!

you provided linkage illustrating/supporting your view on this issue. but then again, HEY GUYS THAT'S NOT ME OR WHAT I'D SAY.

stay the course, my man. stay the course.


It's like you fuking forget who I am!!! HAHAHAHA!






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"I'm not going to defend the process going in, but I am going to defend the people who are on the front line of saving lives," Bush said.


I DON'T SUPPORT THE WAR BUT I SUPPORT OUR (white) TROOPS.

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that you won't see that pretty much validates my criticism of this pervasive and deafening BUSHSUX hum that prevents you guys from hearing anything that ever so remotely fails to affirm your commitment to the church of BUSHSUX.

ah ok. so you're bothering to reply to this why, exactly, you nazi republican g.w.fellating racist war pig greedy fascist thug?

*edit* pork-choking, tree-slashing, strip-mining, nascar-loving, jingoistic plastic-flag-on-yr-car-next-to-the-magnetic-ribbon-sporting neocon DOOSH HED?

*edit* puppy-kicking, cia-agent-outing, clint-black-loving, nra-tattooed imperialist running dog?

*edit* dobson-vomiting malleable-moraled swift-boating rovian freeper? MEGADITTOES!

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a silver lining

"David Brooks spent his last column attempting to make this very case. Let me distill its essence for you: Government sucks! According to Brooks, “the Army Corps of Engineers had plenty of money” -- so the problem wasn’t that Bush had slashed funding to fortify the levees, the problem was government. And according to Brooks, “there were ample troops nearby to maintain order” -- so the problem wasn’t that nearly 40% of Louisiana and Mississippi’s National Guard is deployed in Iraq, the problem was government. And the problem certainly wasn’t that Bush had filled five of the eight top slots at FEMA with incompetent political cronies… the problem was (all together now!) government."






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the GOP attempt to use the Katrina fiasco to privatize FEMA: “The car broke because Bush slashed the tires and now his allies are trying to convince us that the real problem lies with the whole ‘car’ concept.”

werd. this echoes the flood of opportunism following 911, the same one that gave us DHS.






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9/13/2005 at 19:39

LOki:
dreymers:
LOki: The Katrina Debacle is 100% pure local fuk-up.

I call bullshit.

They are both to blame. Stop making excuses.

Mental image: a bunch of nincompoop posers running around waving their arms yelling "I don't know what to do! I don't know what to do!"

You can't post 2 links supporting my position and then tell me it's bullshit!

I don't even know how that works!

[Edited on 13/9/2005 by LOki]


I am just saying that I agree w/you that there's a lot of politics being introduced in lieu of facts, but advise caution when asked to take a side.

Fascists on both sides want to control your mind.

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re: responsibility
e.j. dionne
loki==ben stein?

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vladtweano: re: responsibility
e.j. dionne

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"The President has done the obvious, only after it was clear he couldn’t get away with the inexcusable."
HA-HA!

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e.j. dionne: "He failed to realize after Sept. 11 that it was not we who were lucky to have him as a leader, but he who was lucky to be president of a great country that understood the importance of standing together in the face of a grave foreign threat."

ben stein: "George Bush does not lash out, does not attack those who falsely accuse him of the most horrible acts and neglect. Instead, he doggedly goes on helping the least among us. I don't know how he does it, but we are very lucky he does."






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mundhra: ben stein: "George Bush does not lash out, does not attack those who falsely accuse him of the most horrible acts and neglect. Instead, he doggedly goes on helping the least among us. I don't know how he does it, but we are very lucky he does."


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vladtweano: loki==ben stein?

It is sad, but true that the media will use even the most heart breaking truths -- and then add total inventions -- to try to weaken and then evict from office a man who has done nothing wrong, but has instead turned himself inside out to help the real victims.

"Turned himself inside out"? Where do people get this shit? And how exactly am I expected to believe it?






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9/14/2005 at 13:47

baldy, you're doing a heck of a job
priorities
priorities II: electric boogaloo
gore
senate kills independent investigation

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9/15/2005 at 14:16


condi i gotta potty!
beautiful minds
beyond superdome
roll call
already dead
how the mess was spun
outtakes
hacks
rove in charge of reconstruction effort
dishonesty as policy
worst environmental calamity in u.s. history

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9/15/2005 at 14:51






Fuck you Cheney
guy has his own website. See the movie. Buy the shirt.











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