onemob
Tender vittles  Posts: 18 Registered: 7/16/2005 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 02:12  |
My router.
I just got my 4th router in the last 18 months. Thankfully every one has been an exchange and the initial cost wasnt terrible. However, i am freakin out daily. I dont know if its just linksys sukkin ass in a fashion that would make a crack whore down the street from my house feel like a junior high school girl seeing a penis for the first time. :yikes: Or if theres something seriously wrong with my network
First off the port rule settings are pathetic for the amout of rules and the way in which i am allowed to make them. So because of this i am forced into using UPNP configuration for some software so i dont have to make multiple redundant rules. Not that i could make that many rules anyway.
Secondly, the routers have been deciding to drop rule settings when ever they want strictly so i have to stop everything and then re establish the rules test all the ports and go
Thirdly, UPNP decides to lock out my router from time to time. So far this new one hasnt.
Thankfully, i think, the retail store where i purchaed the router from was out of the model i had gone through three of and was kind enough, after about 30 min of near freakin out, to upgrade me to the next model up, W00t, it is worth what i paid for the original one in the first place. I feel no great accomplishment as linksys customer support has been tellin me to do this for the last 2 exchanges. However cheap corporate retail and their brain dead zombified staff have no concept of customer service.
So i started with a BEFSR41W wireless B router, now im up to a WRK54G wireless G router. Man the only difference from what i can see is the model number and the wireless protocol.
Im soo ready to toss this at the nexrt CSR's head when i have to go back to the store to exchange this one. Its already acting funny. It has Closed ports on me twice now, and it wont accept custom rules i make. For example i was seting a rule for bitcomet, thought, id try it out. But no it didnt want to accept the tcp port assigment and kept shiftin it to UDP when i saved the configuration.
Since i got this router im having a hell of a time being connectable on any torrent site i use. I feel like a freakin N00B suddenly. As it stands 1/3 of my running torrents are unconnectable, and its not just on this site. Its weirding me out. i have never had THIS particualr problem before
Long Story Short, I know Too late right....
Anyone had a particular brand of router that didnt give them a raging head ache while configuring. Or a router that has exceptional flexibility in the customization of rules area. Id settle for just a regular old wired no frills attached goes from day one till the end of time model.
After several emails back and forth with linksys the only advice they give me is to update the firmware. Did that today as the router wouldnt accept new rules, they would either disapear or change protocaol on save. This one is now doing what all the others have done. Dropping ports and not opening he ones i have set to be open. Grrrr
Please Advise before i make a fatal non exchangable alteration to this POS box sitting on my desk
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fastlane
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7/27/2005 at 02:19 |
D-Link
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7/27/2005 at 02:21 |
I run all netgear stuff here at home. But i tend to try to break everything up as much as a can and keep each piece as simple as i can. I have a 4 port router with a 16 port switch, A/B(g) access point, and one of those netgear wall plugged wireless range extenders/bridges (pretty handy piece of hardware) for the xbox and pcs on the other end of the house. I have had 0 problems with any of the equipment and they are all over a year old. All custom configuration seems to hold and not want to revert or reconfig itself to something else. I have never used Lynksys myself, just more of a preference issue i guess.
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onemob
Tender vittles Posts: 18 Registered: 7/16/2005 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 02:26 |
I have a dual P2 267 with 512 of RAM i was contemplating setting up a smooth wall box....
Anyone had any experience with this?
D-Link eh, any particular models or are they all pretty much the similiar?
I will Have to look into some netgear stuff as well i can forsee a trip back to the retailer with a big "fukk you i want something else" note attached to my chest.
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Lumpy_McKwiz
All I know is I don't know  SSHOLEPosts: 63 Registered: 12/18/2004 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 02:38 |
I have almost the exact same router WRT54G . I have 7 comps on the network including 2 wireless, a dedicated Soulseek server with huge volume, and have never had a signle problem in 6 months of operation.
My office at work has had to replace their Linksys RV082 router 3 times since January and I believe it is quite a bit more expensive than the WRT54G.
You must have the gremlins or something
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shitbox
my balls your chin, get used to that idea  SSHOLEPosts: 932 Registered: 1/9/2005 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 04:15 |
Lumpy_McKwiz: I have almost the exact same router WRT54G .
You must have the gremlins or something
I have the same route, 80 bucks was pretty easy to shell out...works great, unlike many other Linksys products. Oh, and i just switched from cable to DSL, beware, router configuring with the shitty 2-wire modem is a fucking nightmare, spent an hour on the phone to India with that one. I run all my shit wireless. For the 3 laptops at home and incase i wanna take my PC into the shower.
And as for gremilins, you dont wanna pour water on those things....or do you?
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Stump
SENATOR BABYHEAD  Posts: 310 Registered: 6/18/2002 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 04:52 |
I've actually been using Linksys since early '99 when I first got cable. I've never had a problem with mine. Are you buying from a local retailer or a box store? My guess is local retailer is screwing you. I just upgrafef to a wireless Liksys and the only problem I'm having is not remembering my encryption key or user name/password, so until I reset the router I have no network. (afterthought, is your power to the router healthy? No spikes, etc.?) |
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onemob
Tender vittles Posts: 18 Registered: 7/16/2005 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 05:15 |
shouldnt be any spikes its on its own breaker, shared with a puter or two, but connected through a power bar. with a surge suppressor. A far cry from a real power conditioner but i havent had any issues with anything else on the bar.
and it's through a big box store. Futureshop to be exact |
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qwerty
DARTH MENSES  Posts: 628 Registered: 9/8/2004 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 06:29 |
I want to smash all the people that smear poor starving children on my tv while it's tea time or if I'm having sushi.
The whole thing put me off my food and makes me unsympathetic to their problems
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magicchex
Fuckin' your bitches and stealin' your cars since 1985.  SSHOLEPosts: 414 Registered: 1/5/2005 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 08:36 |
In my house we run a wireless network with ~10 computers at a given time, many owned by idiots.
We use my Apple router and have never in the last year had a problem. |
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Wotak
You + Fava Beans = Yum  SSHOLEPosts: 698 Registered: 5/27/2005 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 10:19 |
I use the WRT54G and I have never had a glitch.
If you're going through that many routers, you've got a problem with your electrical outlets. Seriously.
We run three desktops, one central file server and my Inspiron 9200 (all wireless) through that router and have never had a problem.
Once every blue moon we lose power during storms and I have to reset everything but that's been the worst problem I've encountered.
We have 3 WRT54G's at work that we use on SPC recording machines. Never a problem.
You've got to have an electrical problem. Bad ground or something.
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mundhra
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7/27/2005 at 11:29 |
pentium100/16Mb ram/floppy drive/2 10mbit nics/coyote linux floppy
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vasudeva
Bad Taste in your Mouth  SSHOLEPosts: 4460 Registered: 3/8/2002 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 12:34 |
onemob: I have a dual P2 267 with 512 of RAM i was contemplating setting up a smooth wall box....
Anyone had any experience with this?
Yep. I've had a smoothwall box running on a P133 for over a year, and love it. (The LBP built it, knowing little of Linux and/or routing at the time.) My only stumbling block with it was not figuring out we needed to spoof a MAC address for a day or so before we got it working.
Wotak: If you're going through that many routers, you've got a problem with your electrical outlets. Seriously.
I'm inclined to agree with the above.
Also, from what little I know of UPnP, I'd recommend being paranoid and turning it off for now, because I'm willing to bet you (or anyone else) haven't started to use any of the supercool ideas Microsoft had in mind when they implemented it, so I don't think it'd hurt to remove that from the equation.
Also also, if you're having a problem with power, it wouldn't hurt to get one of those surge protectors with a tiny UPS built in, to make sure you always have a healthy power feed. I'm pretty sure you can get a decent one for under $100.
As an aside, has anyone had any luck with using any of the 802.11g routers with Linux without running in 802.11b compatibility mode? I've been thinking about getting one of the WRT54G-type routers for my wireless segment. The 802.11b wireless router I have now seems to enjoy overheating on big data transfers.
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mundhra
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7/27/2005 at 14:46 |
vasudeva: Wotak: If you're going through that many routers, you've got a problem with your electrical outlets. Seriously.
I'm inclined to agree with the above.
so am i. i have a coworker who has the same dying router issues. a ups may be the answer, and if you limit it to just the router the cheapest you can find should be ok.
vasudeva: As an aside, has anyone had any luck with using any of the 802.11g routers with Linux without running in 802.11b compatibility mode? I've been thinking about getting one of the WRT54G-type routers for my wireless segment. The 802.11b wireless router I have now seems to enjoy overheating on big data transfers.
i am also (bi)curious about this. i will be moving and will probably want to make the switch to wireless. vas, you're using orinoco gold cards, yes? aren't they just b?
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7/27/2005 at 15:00 |
mundhra: i am also (bi)curious about this. i will be moving and will probably want to make the switch to wireless. vas, you're using orinoco gold cards, yes? aren't they just b?
I am now, cause I've motherfuking had it with the state of wireless drivers under Linux, and just want the absolute most common/best shit.
There does appear to be Orinco gold G cards. Whether they're supported under Linux...
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ragoo
We are not amused.  SSHOLEPosts: 663 Registered: 9/4/2004 Offline
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7/27/2005 at 20:05 |
I've had a Netgear wireless router for a year or so but only started using the wireless part within the last two months, after I got Tivo and a new laptop. I've been having intermittant problems with it--and I don't have the technical lingo to describe this accurately--but the router stops brodcasting periodically. I actually have to unplug and reboot it a few times a day.
My brother in law suggested I might be getting interference from the 2.4 GHz cordless phones we have in the house. He says if we use the phones in proximity to the router, it could foul up the wireless signal and knock the router offline. I dunno.
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7/27/2005 at 21:16 |
Ragoo: My brother in law suggested I might be getting interference from the 2.4 GHz cordless phones we have in the house. He says if we use the phones in proximity to the router, it could foul up the wireless signal and knock the router offline. I dunno.
FYI: I have actually heard of this happening.
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my balls your chin, get used to that idea SSHOLEPosts: 932 Registered: 1/9/2005 Offline
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7/28/2005 at 03:43 |
vasudeva: Ragoo: My brother in law suggested I might be getting interference from the 2.4 GHz cordless phones we have in the house. He says if we use the phones in proximity to the router, it could foul up the wireless signal and knock the router offline. I dunno.
FYI: I have actually heard of this happening.
Wittnessed it happening. Phone has to be on and inuse though.
Just keep it AWAY from teh router.
I have this surge protected outlet thingy..its quite large w/8 outlets on it. If we lose our electricity, the thing will run for about an hour or so. Now that i have DSL and because that uses a phone line, i can still access the intraweb without powa! i just have all my comp cables, modem, and router hooked up to it. If we lose power i can SWARM still. Lucky me, and especially lucky you.
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DARTH MENSES  Posts: 641 Registered: 4/22/2005 Offline
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7/28/2005 at 04:03 |
vasudeva: Ragoo: My brother in law suggested I might be getting interference from the 2.4 GHz cordless phones we have in the house. He says if we use the phones in proximity to the router, it could foul up the wireless signal and knock the router offline. I dunno.
FYI: I have actually heard of this happening.
So go with 80211a
it uses 5ghz
less clutter
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DARTH MENSES  Posts: 413 Registered: 7/10/2005 Offline
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7/28/2005 at 04:14 |
As an aside, has anyone had any luck with using any of the 802.11g routers with Linux without running in 802.11b compatibility mode? I've been thinking about getting one of the WRT54G-type routers for my wireless segment. The 802.11b wireless router I have now seems to enjoy overheating on big data transfers.
Yes, but back to linksys
I found that the router handled it well in a pure enviroment, but fucked up tragically with g and b users at the same time. It slowed everyone down to less than B bandwidth. If all the users stay at the old or new standard, life was good. Seems that there is a bud in the baseband in the mixed enviroment since the link is actually lost, well before any IP mounting or timeout issues.
Check your linked GNU libraries for the comms and TCPIP, you need to refresh and recompile when you load some of the drivers
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