casmhar
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7/17/2005 at 19:15 |
Beachgoat turned me on to some really cool nuke footage , unbelivable power. If something like that were to happen, near you, what the hell could you do to stay alive. I have seen some of the on line anarchists plans, but thats no life either.
There are a lot countries and a lot nukes out there, along with a lot of fucked up people
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Acidburn
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7/17/2005 at 19:35 |
With the arms treaty that the nuclear powers hold with each other and givin my geographicle location.... Probably try to make my way down to my daughter and be with her till the end.
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SexNinja
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7/17/2005 at 19:41 |
Loot. |
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shitbox
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7/17/2005 at 19:53 |
SexNinjaMcDeath: Loot.
Werd.
I would also raid the pharmacy...antibiotics, painkillers, important shit like that would be mine, and if you got im my way, i would kill you quickly and without thought.
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HOBO
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7/17/2005 at 20:00 |
i'd slather myself with 8,000 pf sunblock and get a good look at the blast. life really wouldn't be worth leaving after a "nucular" holocaust. Long live the new masters of earth- the cockroach.
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LORDKAHUNA
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7/17/2005 at 20:23 |
Gather:
crossbow/bolts
gunz
meds
ammo
gas
food
SMOKES AND BOOZE!
Gather cheerleading squads from every city high school/college.
Make way toward an agricultural area ASAP, establish a free-love commune and set about repopulating the planet.
--SHORT LIST--
fambly
guns/tools
food I can carry
Head north to secluded Indian reservation I know of (have friends there), those dudes will probably be better equipped for this shit.
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redhook
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7/18/2005 at 03:54 |
I've always thought the best place to be if they actually dropped the nukes would be ground zero.
BOOM.
No pain, no stress - G'night, folks!
Let the real survivalists do their thing - I know myself well enough to know I'd just get in the way. Seriously.
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ghostrider
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7/18/2005 at 03:56 |
Jesus would never this happen
fools...
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7/18/2005 at 04:03 |
redhook: I've always thought the best place to be if they actually dropped the nukes would be ground zero.
BOOM.
No pain, no stress - G'night, folks!
Let the real survivalists do their thing - I know myself well enough to know I'd just get in the way. Seriously.
methinks you are right
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dragonstaff
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7/18/2005 at 05:03 |
Read 'Lucifers Hammer' by Niven & Pournelle ( the guys who wrote 'The Mote in Gods Eye'). It gives a pretty good idea of what you will need.
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BeachGoat
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7/18/2005 at 08:54 |
LK: "Head north to secluded Indian reservation I know of (have friends there), those dudes will probably be better equipped for this shit."
Better equipt to eat your ass...
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7/18/2005 at 10:00 |
We've all seen LK's picture too. I got dibs on the haunch, there be some good meat on that boy. |
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LORDKAHUNA
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7/18/2005 at 11:42 |
my only consolation is that I'll outlast you fuks
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7/18/2005 at 14:35 |
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vasudeva
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7/18/2005 at 15:00 |
LORDKAHUNA: Gather:
crossbow/bolts
gunz
meds
ammo
gas
food
SMOKES AND BOOZE!
Gather cheerleading squads from every city high school/college.
Make way toward an agricultural area ASAP, establish a free-love commune and set about repopulating the planet.
--SHORT LIST--
fambly
guns/tools
food I can carry
Head north to secluded Indian reservation I know of (have friends there), those dudes will probably be better equipped for this shit.
Rock dude. I knew there was a reason I lick your hairdo like a momma kitten.
Everything you said, plus:
Batteries of all denominations.
Flashlights and matches.
Assloads of duct tape.
Rope.
Garbage bags and sealable sandwich bags for coverage, waterproofing, and containment (people parts, bits of food, screws, blood of infants).
AM/FM radio.
Pocket tools (Leatherman et al.)
Some kind of portable camping kit would be nice, to have ready-made means of boiling water, sterilizing food and bandages, etc.
Containers for gasoline, and hoses to siphon them from cars.
12ga and 20ga shotguns + rounds.
--THERE IS NO SHORT LIST--
Head north deep into Canada, where population is scarce and water is plentiful. Commandeer anything that will provide shelter and defense (prison, parking garage, barge), and anything else that will provide energy (gas station + generator, solar power anything).
Or possibly Kahuna's reservation. Hook me up, fool.
EDIT: Same deal for zombie breakout, except even more ammo.
EDIT: Oh yeah. Iodine and bleach to disinfect water. Portable DIY geiger counter. Duh.
[Edited on 7/18/2005 by vasudeva]
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Dumbskull
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7/18/2005 at 15:24 |
Head north deep into Maine, where population is scarce and water, fish, deer, moose and bear are plentiful.
Also seeds for planting gardens if we survive the first nuclear winter.
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SexNinja
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7/18/2005 at 17:08 |
Commandeer anything that will provide shelter and defense (prison, parking garage, barge)
Yeah, a barge would be what I'd head for with my loot. One could feasibly stay away from any large on-shore rumbles while still keeping close in case you had to kill some bitches. It would present a rather obvious and easy to find target, though...
12ga and 20ga shotguns + rounds.
Eh.... I'd rather take a .223 in place of one of those, maybe an AR-15 or AK-47 variant, OR a sniping rifle in .308. Along with that, a .22 pistol and rifle for hunting. .22 ammo is cheap and you can carry a bunch at a time.
--THERE IS NO SHORT LIST--
There should be, and it should consist mainly of weapons and ammo. You're never going to be able to carry all that shit, dude. Steal and pillage what you need, when you need it. Rule #1.
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7/18/2005 at 17:16 |
Unless this is a "mens-only-sitting-around-the-campfire-post-nuke-circle-jerk" ya'll had better pack a shit load of tampons for your ladies or it will get real damn ugly out there in those mean ass woods.
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7/18/2005 at 17:41  |
I'd finally get to have my way with Hilary Duff. Dead or Alive.
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vasudeva
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7/18/2005 at 20:08 |
SexNinjaMcDeath: 12ga and 20ga shotguns + rounds.
Eh.... I'd rather take a .223 in place of one of those, maybe an AR-15 or AK-47 variant, OR a sniping rifle in .308. Along with that, a .22 pistol and rifle for hunting. .22 ammo is cheap and you can carry a bunch at a time.
If we make this about guns, we'll be here all day, which is why I didn't.
I would, however, like to, so let's get started.
There was a really cool site that got swarmed a while back (oh look who swarmed it, you faggot) about what guns to choose when the Shit Hit The Fan (apparently a popular (played-to-death) concept in gun nut forums). To my great sadness, it went down. I emailed the maintainer and asked him WTF but never got a response.
As I go over this post, it appears the site is back up, but minimal now, so here's an archive.org cache of it, with full descriptions of each type of gun, and the benefits and disadvantages thereto, taking into account not so much firepower as ease of use and the availability of compatible ammo in a world without WalMart (which I think is key).
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There should be, and it should consist mainly of weapons and ammo. You're never going to be able to carry all that shit, dude. Steal and pillage what you need, when you need it. Rule #1.
Unless we're talking going supernuts on ammo, all of that shit will fit into (or strapped onto) a backpack or two, minus the gas containers if full -- but who's going to be carrying full cans of gas for miles and miles?
[Edited on 7/18/2005 by vasudeva]
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7/18/2005 at 21:08 |
Dumbskull: Unless this is a "mens-only-sitting-around-the-campfire-post-nuke-circle-jerk" ya'll had better pack a shit load of tampons for your ladies or it will get real damn ugly out there in those mean ass woods.
Not only that, but just plain being female in a post-holocaust world could be SO not fun.
The barge is an interesting idea, but only as long as the fuel tanks last. You're not exactly likely to find a functioning fuel dock, unless they commonly come with backup manual pumps (they might at that, although I doubt it... anybody know?).
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7/18/2005 at 21:28 |
I want to be close/far enough to watch the show.....but not live much longer....save the last bullet for myself if nature does not take care of me quickly.
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7/18/2005 at 22:09 |
Hmm. Depends on where the strike was and if I survived the initial and following onslaught.
IF I lived. First steal lost of meds, some anti biotics but mostly narcotics and all the fun stuff, oh and cigarettes. Second I'd steal a medium sized yacht, small enough for two people to sail it and live comfortably (sailing only, oh maybe a little gas engine) Third, have enough fishing gear to last a while. 4th get my ride and die bitch (aka girlfriend). 5th take my guns along, have a muzzle loader and a 9mm glock (half my family is from deep in the hills of Kentucky so that explains that), bring ammo and stock up on fixins for black powder (there's plenty of lead around for bullets). 6th Stuff to make my evaoparative water purifier. 7th Sail to a remote empty island. Set up camp. Including defensable positions. Live on fish water and watever I can get my manicured little hands on. Eat coconuts and refer to myself as The Professor. Allow people to colonize only if they surrender to my will/new religion. God always takes the fight out of people.
Of course all this is null and void if there's a Doomsday device somewhere, like in Dr. Strangelove.
Remeber the survival kits from that film?? Funny.
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7/18/2005 at 23:28 |
Dumbskull: Unless this is a "mens-only-sitting-around-the-campfire-post-nuke-circle-jerk" ya'll had better pack a shit load of tampons for your ladies or it will get real damn ugly out there in those mean ass woods.
Actually, fact that I learned:
If you stop feeding women, not only do they stop being fat, but eventually they will stop having their period as well. EVERYONE IS TEH WINNAR!!!!11 |
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SexNinja
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7/19/2005 at 00:23 |
If we make this about guns, we'll be here all day, which is why I didn't.
I would, however, like to, so let's get started.
k. My aversion to the shotgun is that it's usually a melee/close quarters weapon (unless you're using slugs) and you should avoid such combat whenever possible since you're your own doctor now. Sniper rifle is best, followed by assault rifle, followed by shotgun. The ammo is also bigger and bulkier and thus adds more carrying/storage hassle than a standard rifle's ammo would.
There was a really cool site that got swarmed a while back (oh look who swarmed it, you faggot)
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about what guns to choose when the Shit Hit The Fan (apparently a popular (played-to-death) concept in gun nut forums). To my great sadness, it went down.
The core ideas still live on. If nothing else, load up on .22 cals.
Unless we're talking going supernuts on ammo, all of that shit will fit into (or strapped onto) a backpack or two, minus the gas containers if full -- but who's going to be carrying full cans of gas for miles and miles?
Right, I understand your idea better after you clarified in irc, but still. Even if you can cram all that in a backpack, there's weight issues to deal with. All those batteries and duct tape aren't going to feel feather-light after an hour of hiking.
My main point still stands. Avoid loading yourself down with anything you won't immediately need, or that you can just steal when you do.
[Edited on 7/19/2005 by SexNinjaMcDeath]
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vasudeva
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7/19/2005 at 00:55 |
SexNinjaMcDeath: k. My aversion to the shotgun is that it's usually a melee/close quarters weapon (unless you're using slugs) and you should avoid such combat whenever possible since you're your own doctor now. Sniper rifle is best, followed by assault rifle, followed by shotgun. The ammo is also bigger and bulkier and thus adds more carrying/storage hassle than a standard rifle's ammo would.
Good points, especially re: ammo weight. I think you and me are envisioning different pieces of the scenario, though. I'm not discussing roaming around outside my camp or running a sortie into a city for supplies or victims, I'm talking about making the trek cross-country to somewhere safe and defensible, like Kahuna originally posted:
Make way toward an agricultural area ASAP, establish a free-love commune and set about repopulating the planet.
Head north to secluded Indian reservation I know of (have friends there), those dudes will probably be better equipped for this shit.
Right, I understand your idea better after you clarified in irc, but still. Even if you can cram all that in a backpack, there's weight issues to deal with. All those batteries and duct tape aren't going to feel feather-light after an hour of hiking.
You're assuming this is my concrete set-in-stone list and I wouldn't be able to detect it getting heavy and change my mind. What, did you think I meant I was going to be carrying 45 pounds of D-cells in there? Assume my brain will be engaged.
In any case, that shit'll get heavy, I suppose, but if the alternative is needing it and not having it, I'm more than happy to lug around some extra weight. With possible EMP bursts, looting, and lack of gas, I don't think anyone can count on finding a motor vehicle, either, so backpack (and probably bicycle) is the safest bet.
Avoid loading yourself down with anything you won't immediately need, or that you can just steal when you do.
And what, throw away all the extra penicillin in case I find myself needing to sprint wicked fast without time to dump my shit?
Again, I think you're already inhabiting the safe haven here. I'm starting at the beginning, that is: getting to one, cause I'm sure whereever I happen to be won't be the ideal location to set up post-nuke life.
Also, I think you have to assume worst-case scenario and then prepare for it; for example, if you find medicine, don't just take the Alleve cause your only problem is a headache, grab the other shit that'll be hard to find and stash it too, cause you can't count on finding an accessible pharmacy on foot or bike anytime soon.
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7/19/2005 at 01:03 |
certain 12's are considered assault weapons, such as the SPAS 12 guage.
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7/19/2005 at 01:10 |
and a .22 could make a good companion for a sniper. hide up on a ridge and shoot some of the enemy dudes in the face, then their comrades have to take care of them.
as i left Alaska and drove through northern B.C., i thought that would be a perfect place to hide. millions upon millions of acres of woods and mountains, and nary a soul. you need a cave or some cover to hide from the government_death_satellites, and infra-red tracking aircraft.
i'd take some books, paper and art supplies too.
and a curry in case any limeys survive 
[Edited on 19/7/2005 by ghostrideryyz]
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7/19/2005 at 01:45 |
You're assuming this is my concrete set-in-stone list and I wouldn't be able to detect it getting heavy and change my mind. What, did you think I meant I was going to be carrying 45 pounds of D-cells in there? Assume my brain will be engaged.
Right, I get what you're thinking now, especially with this:
In any case, that shit'll get heavy, I suppose, but if the alternative is needing it and not having it, I'm more than happy to lug around some extra weight.
As would I, after a while. (see below)
Again, I think you're already inhabiting the safe haven here. I'm starting at the beginning, that is: getting to one, cause I'm sure wherever I happen to be won't be the ideal location to set up post-nuke life.
Actually, quite the opposite. I don't want to immediately set out for a safe haven. I want to be out there getting into fights and stealing stuff for a while. I could never do these kinds of things otherwise, and I don't want to pass the chance up.
Anyway, here's my immediate "short" list of gear:
I imagine something like this would be invaluable, as would one of these.
Small first- aid kit.
Short rope.
Good "combat" style knife.
Multi-tool (like a Leatherman).
M1A1A w/scope and about a thousand rounds of ammo.
9mm OR .45 pistol, most likely a Sig if I could get my hands on one, with about 300-400 rounds of ammo.
Night-vision equipment.
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7/19/2005 at 02:14 |
You're assuming this is my concrete set-in-stone list and I wouldn't be able to detect it getting heavy and change my mind. What, did you think I meant I was going to be carrying 45 pounds of D-cells in there? Assume my brain will be engaged.
Okay, y'all are talking about my boobs now and I have been lugging them around for a long time. Cut it out. I have to deal with it every day.
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