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7/9/2005 at 17:35
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813136152
$129.00

Lian Li PC-V2000A Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811112053
Still not sure if this is the right case for me...
$238.00

(2, a total of 2 gig) CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWINX1024-3200C2PT - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145450
$242.00

SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V 600W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817151025
$161.00

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ ClawHammer Integrated into Chip FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA4000ASBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103497
$473.00

ATI (Connect3D) Radeon X800 XL 256MB DDR/PCI-E/TV-Out/VGA/DVI (OEM)
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190527&Category_Code=ATI-PCI-E
$249.00 - FREE SHIPPING

I already have a hard drive and cd drive at home.

Total of $1492.00 w/o tax and shipping.
My budget is 1400-1800. I still have to find good water cooling parts since i'll be overclocking alot.
Any suggestions or opinions?

 
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7/9/2005 at 17:43

get a Dell






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7/9/2005 at 18:11

Good computer. You'll find that CORSAIR also makes an awesome cool water cooling package that you can buy for $220AUS. As for the case Lian Li make great cases but you would be better off buying a cheap case as you'll find that when you upgrade the mobo the new one won't fit in it(the past few times I've done upgrades I had to buy new cases now I build my own).
You could proberly save $200 on the 64bit proccessor and spend it on a water cooling kit then use coolant and a beer (small six tinny holder) fridge to freeze the computer and do a major overclock on a 3000+ 64bit proccessor.






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7/9/2005 at 20:18

Man, that's an obscene amount of money to pay for a case; it's not even that great. Instead, I would suggest Thermaltake Armor for about $100 less.

I have seen studies that show that the difference in the performance of CL2 RAM and inexpensive CL3 RAM is negligible (<10%). I would suggest buying cheaper RAM, unless you plan to overclock (and even then).

Hard drives will make a whole lot of difference, even with 2GBs of RAM. Get a 74 gig Raptor, you won't be sorry. Not sure if RAID0 is the way to go -- you reduce your effective MTBF by a factor of 2, and performance benefits in single-user mode are debatable.

The graphics card is a good buy, but if you wait a month its price might go down another $50 as the R520 is released.

For the CPU, why not go for dual-core? The Register says that AMD will be lowering the bulk prices within a few weeks.

And as a final note, I understand it's great having all this money to blow. It's just that I built a computer for $350 that looks just as good and is within 20% of the performance of the one you are going to build (sans the graphics card, I am waiting for the price cuts/sales). Why are you willing to spend this much money on something that will cost half of its value in six months?


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7/10/2005 at 19:47

check this out<






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7/10/2005 at 19:51

Sorry, outta practice. They've got great prices and packages. Go to the custom configurator for upgrades to systems that include Half-life, card-readers and 3 years free support.






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7/11/2005 at 16:57

And as a final note, I understand it's great having all this money to blow. It's just that I built a computer for $350 that looks just as good and is within 20% of the performance of the one you are going to build (sans the graphics card, I am waiting for the price cuts/sales).


Please to share how you did this, MagicCrackLantern. I've been seriously considering building my own here and thought I'd have to spend between 1,000-1,400 to get anything halfway decent.






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7/11/2005 at 19:19

hells no, sexninja. you should definitely be able to come in well under $1000. vas, didn't you spec out a machine recently for around $450?

i found an ars technica guide that looks pretty decent.






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7/16/2005 at 19:27

Meh. I've cooled off on the idea of building my own, at least for now. I just don't have the time/know-how right now. I definitely want to try it in the future, though.

Those cyberpower ones look pretty good, especially this one.

I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to go with a different CPU and/or motherboard than the ones they've got as defaults on it though. I'm willing to spend between 800-900 on it.






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7/16/2005 at 19:45

sexninja, mobo and proc look fine to me.






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7/17/2005 at 06:07

I like that cyberpower site. Next time I buy a desktop I may go with them instead of building my own. Decent prices along with the ability to not have Windows preinstalled.

i made the following customized desktop which came to $1527 (with 3 year onsite warranty):

CASE : Hot New! ASUS Vento 3600 Mid-Tower 420W Case (BLACK COLOR)
CPU : (939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3000+ CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD : (Sckt939)ASUS A8N-SLI nForce4 SLI Chipset SATA RAID Dual PCIE MB w/Gb-LAN,USB2.0,IEEE-1394,&7.1Audio
MEMORY : 2048 MB (512MBx4) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR MEMORY (Corsair Value RAM)
HARD DRIVE : MAXTOR 250GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB CACHE HARD DRIVE
Hard Drive 2 : MAXTOR 250GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB CACHE HARD DRIVE
VIDEO CARD : NVIDIA Geforce 6600 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD
VIDEO CARD 2 : NVIDIA Geforce 6600 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD
Optical Drive : (Special Price) LG GWA-4161 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2 : 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)
MONITOR & LCD : NONE
SOUND : HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO


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7/18/2005 at 02:13

k, question: Should I go with two 80 GB HDs in RAID 0, or just stick with the 160 they've got? I'm messing around with every configuration I can think of sub-$900 with this, and I think I can jew it out. All I want to use this for is moderate gaming and schoolwork, but if I can get this option, is it worth it, performance-wise?






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7/18/2005 at 03:36

SexNinjaMcDeath: k, question: Should I go with two 80 GB HDs in RAID 0, or just stick with the 160 they've got? I'm messing around with every configuration I can think of sub-$900 with this, and I think I can jew it out. All I want to use this for is moderate gaming and schoolwork, but if I can get this option, is it worth it, performance-wise?


According to this overview, any performance gains will be basically unnoticable. I would suggest getting the single drive (leaving you space to later add another one).
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7/18/2005 at 12:23

chex: unless you're definitely going to SLI two nvidia cards, you can probably get the non-SLI motherboard cheaper.

sexninja: i really don't think RAID 0 is worth it. you do gain some performance, but i'd think it's only necessary for real-time audio/video capture. also, your chance of drive failure using two drives doubles.






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7/18/2005 at 18:15

k sweet.

Final config:

CASE : HOT NEW! Xplorer Mid-Tower Case 420W W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (Black Case w/Blue Face)

NOTE: I'm not one of these OMG TEH HOT NEW CASE faggots, and wish I could knock $100 off for a plain one, but whatever.

CPU : (939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3200+ CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD : (Sckt939)MSI K8N NEO4-F nForce4 Chipset SATA Raid PCI-E w/GbLAN, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY : 1024 MB (512MBx2) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR MEMORY (Corsair Value RAM)
HARD DRIVE : Hitachi 160GB 7200RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache -- Recommended
Hard Drive 2 : NONE
VIDEO CARD : NVIDIA Geforce 6600 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD
VIDEO CARD 2 : NONE
Optical Drive : (Special Price) LG GWA-4161 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2 : 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)
MONITOR & LCD : NONE
SOUND : HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO






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7/18/2005 at 21:25

mundhra: chex: unless you're definitely going to SLI two nvidia cards, you can probably get the non-SLI motherboard cheaper.
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VIDEO CARD : NVIDIA Geforce 6600 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD
VIDEO CARD 2 : NVIDIA Geforce 6600 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD

anyways, I was just fucking around, i'm not buying a new computer for at least a half year.
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7/19/2005 at 11:38

uh yeah.

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7/20/2005 at 14:25

updated anandtech guide released today.






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