vasudeva
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4/13/2005 at 13:41 |
A moral: when talking science, try to actually know science.
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ghostrider
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4/13/2005 at 13:46 |
a christian belittling someone for believing in something that "they or anyone else can never prove" is as ironic as it gets.
i'd like to slap the shit out of the author of the second one
[Edited on 13/4/2005 by ghostrideryyz]
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qwerty
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4/13/2005 at 14:21 |
I'm wondering how much time people have spent trying to argue about Evolutionism Vs Creationism.
No matter where you go it's a very big subject, maybe all the time spent on it could be used to make pancakes
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metatron
Fighting The Good Fight ™  SSHOLEPosts: 473 Registered: 4/12/2002 Offline
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4/13/2005 at 14:27 |
I feel bad for the children of that second author. IGNERUNT!
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Uart
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4/13/2005 at 14:29 |
The saddest thing about the author of the second one, is that said author managed to reproduce, twice.
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mundhra
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4/13/2005 at 15:37 |
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4/13/2005 at 15:44 |
I think its good. I eventually want to buy property in Knoxville and I will need someone to do my lawn. Its good to know there will be plenty of manual labor.
("You'd make Jesus cry if he saw all that crabgrass")
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LORDKAHUNA
Don't make me fuk your moustache  SSHOLEPosts: 1624 Registered: 8/5/2003 Offline
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4/14/2005 at 01:46 |
qwerty: I'm wondering how much time people have spent trying to argue about Evolutionism Vs Creationism.
No matter where you go it's a very big subject, maybe all the time spent on it could be used to make pancakes
Smartest thing said in this thread yet.
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government_death_robot
DARTH MENSES  Posts: 921 Registered: 4/23/2004 Offline
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4/14/2005 at 02:35 |
I thought nobody gave a shit about evolution being taught in schools after The Monkey Trial.
No more court cases were brought up because of it that I'm aware.
I don't believe I came from a monkey. I'm just not buying it.
But I couldn't care less if I tried if a teacher taught the class about evolution.
Evolutionistismism, Creationismists, it's all pointless to argue about.
Everybody should realize this and STFU about it.
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LORDKAHUNA
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4/14/2005 at 02:50 |
I remember a prof of mine teaching Theistic Evolution, it was a cool class.
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acheron
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4/14/2005 at 02:53 |
"Evolutionistismism, Creationismists, it's all pointless to argue about."
Despite the pointlessness, I still think its the most fun. The same scientific method that determines how their cars work and how there drugs are manufactured tells us that we are upright monkeys with big brains and destructive tendencies.
Deal with it people
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4/15/2005 at 02:29 |
Daniel Dennett's "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" should be mandatory reading for all 21st century humans. I mean, c'mon, why are we still arguing about evolution for chrissake? STUPID STUPID STUPID. The penalty for not reading it should be immediate time-travel of the transgressor to the 451st century B.C. for DNA re-training.
Get it - it's the best $10.88 you'll spend this week. Even if you only read the introduction. Really.
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mundhra
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4/15/2005 at 03:19 |
mc hawking definitely says it best |
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vasudeva
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4/15/2005 at 14:07 |
AcheronDCS: Despite the pointlessness, I still think its the most fun.
I guess it goes back to the fish in the barrel dynamic. Launch the creationism vs evolution debate and learn how shockingly, entertainingly ill-prepared your opponent really is contribute to any gene pool. "Well, my fish didn't climb up out of the tank and become human, so THERE, I proved all them scientists WRONG! Har! It's just a theory and not fact, not like my faith in God, which is a fact, and can be proven cause I feel Him every day."
EDIT: If them superstitious motherfuckers want to have that kind of party,
I'm going to put my dick in the mashed potatoes.
[Edited on 4/15/2005 by vasudeva]
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4/15/2005 at 20:32 |
Dude, arguing about anything that has anything to do with religion or religious undertones is stupid; Who cares what you believe, because according to almost all religions (except ones like buddhism, which is more of a philosophy) If you haven't accepted their god as YOUR god, you're automatically going to hell. Since we're all going to hell anyway, why stress about proving your religion is the right one? Live life the way you want to, don't worry about trying to get everyone else to live THEIR lives the way YOU want them to. |
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eromreveN
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4/24/2005 at 14:27 |
Demagogue: Dude, arguing about anything that has anything to do with religion or religious undertones is stupid; Who cares what you believe, because according to almost all religions (except ones like buddhism, which is more of a philosophy) If you haven't accepted their god as YOUR god, you're automatically going to hell....
Dude... DUDE!!! You're doing what you said was stupid in your first sentence...
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4/24/2005 at 18:45 |
I think this is how they should solve it once and for all.
Get the smartest scientist, and the pope. Get two bats, label on evolution and on creationism. Give them to their respected touters, and let them go at the. The one that lives wins. |
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Amphetamine
Tender vittles  Posts: 49 Registered: 4/28/2005 Offline
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4/28/2005 at 14:38 |
call me close-minded, but I don't think I can grow any less impressed with the typical creationist mindstate. It's all the same, really; a subjective outlook on the world coupled with an unfounded bias against reason-based conclusions. Really irritates the fuck outta me when I try to combat them head-on, so I opt to just ignore them when I can. Shit helps, though it doesn't exactly make the world seem like any better of a place for encouraging and propagating the madness...
ah, life is a beautiful thing.
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DonQuixote
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4/28/2005 at 18:56 |
There really is no one arguing here. Everyone seems to be in agreement that creationist are stupid, inbred, southern, pieces of human waste.
Now onto the real question. How do we keep this shit out of kids text books? I mean they are really fighting for it in parts of Texas. I guess the solution then is not to move to Texas.
Acheron & Vas - I agree making fun of creationists is like shooting fish in a barrel. S'fun though.
Maybe we should discuss string theory and the "theory of Everything". Now there's a debate.
Or maybe pancakes are on their way. mmmmm pancakes.
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LOki
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4/28/2005 at 22:20 |
Since we are all so sure of ourselves, how much less faith does it require to believe in the "big bang" as opposed to the "invisible white father in the sky"?
The devil is in the details, you know, and there are alot of presumptions made by GUT hopefuls--some of which are just as ridiculous (although wrapped tastefully in scientific jargon) and condradictory as the Genesis account.
I often wonder: if creationsism didn't come attached to a belief system that very often means death to the heretic, would we be so frothing in our condemnation of their explaination for our existence?
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4/28/2005 at 22:30 |
LOki: Since we are all so sure of ourselves, how much less faith does it require to believe in the "big bang" as opposed to the "invisible white father in the sky"?
I often wonder: if creationsism didn't come attached to a belief system that very often means death to the heretic, would we be so frothing in our condemnation of their explaination for our existence?
Probably. While the "big bang" itself may be a stretch, it doesn't even attempt to explain human existence after that. For that we have science with facts and shit. Creationism wholly ignores these facts, and usually constructs BS excuses about "the devil" to work around them.
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4/29/2005 at 10:38 |
I have created an enormous pile of shit.
It has evolved into a massive stinking clusterfuck of compartmentalised obscurities, all useful when complete, but all missing a part.
What was once a random gathering of disposables is now an entire garage full of needy things.
I believe it has achieved a higher level of purpose and function. What was created has evolved.
Praise Dog! Everybody gets to be right.
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4/29/2005 at 11:38 |
BeachGoat:I believe it has achieved a higher level of purpose and function. What was created has evolved.
Praise Dog! Everybody gets to be right.
Whoah sweet! Can i get a print of that? I'll hang it up next to dogs playing poker. |
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Lefen
I think Clavis wins my heart <3  SSHOLEPosts: 897 Registered: 9/16/2003 Offline
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4/29/2005 at 11:41 |
the evolution and divergence of species can be demonstarted by 16s ribosomal RNA sequencing.
ripped from here:
- 16S RNA is found in small ribosomal subunit [they make proteins] of procaryotic [microbial] ribosomes.
- Since mitochondria and chloroplasts [they make energy in the cell] have these ribosomes also, it is found in all 3 kingdoms [of life -- that is microbes, plants and animals].
- Most ribosomal RNA mutations are deleterious [==not passed on cos they're faulty]. Very few mutations are neutral.
- Therefore evolution of 16S RNA is very slow. It is a very good molecule to use to compare organisms that may have diverged as far back as 3 or 4 billion years ago.
The tree of life project makes use of this data to trace the evolution of all living things.
Unless you are an ignorant religious nutbar, evolution is a fact, ladies and gents.
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4/29/2005 at 20:42 |
Hey, SOFICKINGWAT!!! I resemble and resent your remark about creationists or ignorant people in general being southern. Being from and in AR, but having lived all over the country I know the south's got no monopoly on it. I look at 'em like I do conservatives, they can't handle the truth, all their arguments fall apart under any scrutiny. Same goes for the Catholic church and the Bush administration- dissent will not be tolerated, you will be branded a heretic for not subscribing and adhering to our dogma.
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4/29/2005 at 21:04 |
DWOOD_ I already replied to your comment on the terrorist journal where you posted this first.
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4/29/2005 at 22:06 |
What I use for 'religion' borrows alot from different religions, an amalagamtion if you will. I do not buy however that man evolved from ape / primates. The theory of evolution is exactly as it states: "Theory" same goes for creationism : Scripture specific to a religion.
I believe there is a God | 0 | whatever you want to call it, I also believe that "God" is beyond our comprehension and responsibility. Which is kind of where my Budhist 'leanings' come into play, and the evidence of Yin-Yang is everything.
Peace be with you....
Shutup til you die....
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4/29/2005 at 22:12 |
Why is this so hard to reconcile with religion? God created all people, and the way he did it is using evolution. After all, to God a billion years is but a blink of an eye.
To quote DJ Hawking (who, btw, rocks): fuck the Creationists. |
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Besset
Tender vittles  Posts: 2 Registered: 1/28/2005 Offline
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4/30/2005 at 05:05 |
I think it's interesting that we think of evolution as everything leading up to us. As if we are the ultimate beings and the whole process took place so that we could grace the planet/universe. If anyone's ever read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn...he makes an analogy with the jellyfish. If we were to go back in time and ask the jellyfish the story of the earth's creation, he would declare the story of evolution then conclude that it was all made for him: the jellyfish.
We have to remember that even if we destroy ourselves to the point of extinction...or almost extinction who knows what organisms/creatures could be living on this planet in another 10 million years. Will the earth simply cease to exist without our presence?
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