Nicklouse
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12/9/2004 at 10:26 |
Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven wrote 'Mote in God's Eye'. I like it a lot. Them midget Moties are psychotic little fuckers, aren't they?
I recently obtained the velvet-bound 'Vasudeva's Butpussy Goes to Fagland', with the surprising Victorian lithographs. Highly recommended.
Wasn't Xerxes the Persian King who got his arse kicked by the Spartans at Thermopylae? Or am I thinking of the ship's computer from System Shock 2...
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dragonstaff
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12/9/2004 at 11:37 |
Pournelle and Niven also wrote one called Lucifers Hammer, About the aftermath of a comet strike which is as good as the 'Mote'.
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azron123
I can break you with my mind. Watch, I'll do it.  SSHOLEPosts: 1505 Registered: 3/6/2003 Offline
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12/9/2004 at 13:24 |
Without getting into specific individual books, Just about anything written by these guys is worth reading.
Dean Koontz
Clive Cussler
Tony Hillerman
Tom Clancy
Larry Niven
Jerry Pournelle
Spider Robinson
David Gemmell
Orson Scott Card
David Eddings
Robert Heinlein
Douglas Adams
Terry Pratchitt
Robert Ludlum
On my list of authors who are vastly over rated
Michael Crichton
John Grishom
Steven King
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Heather
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12/9/2004 at 17:53 |
about anything written by these guys is worth reading.
Azron123, I have about 20 Robert Ludlum books, you want them? I'll mail them to you if you're interested.
What's this Chuck Palanhiuk book?
I read about this one before... There's a haunted house or something, and this little kid
Lullaby
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vasudeva
Bad Taste in your Mouth  SSHOLEPosts: 4361 Registered: 3/8/2002 Online
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12/9/2004 at 18:01 |
government_death_robot: What's this Chuck Palanhiuk book?
Online short story by him called Guts -- well worth the next 6 minutes of your Thursday.
One day when I'm drunk on the Internets and feeling morose, remind me to tell you the story of how reading Siddhartha saved my life.
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ghostrider
liberal exit  SSHOLEPosts: 2382 Registered: 7/29/2004 Offline
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12/9/2004 at 18:16 |
i'd like to read the book bt Dr. Cube that freakmachine mentioned
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vasudeva
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12/9/2004 at 18:19 |
I'll thank you to leave the whimsical travelogue of my sexual asspussy out of your reading habits.
Besides, I'm burning copies to drive up the price.
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freakmachine
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12/9/2004 at 20:49 |
Nicklouse: "Wasn't Xerxes the Persian King who got his arse kicked by the Spartans at Thermopylae?"
The very same. But he didn't exactly get his ass kicked, just slowed down for a few days, thanks to a treacherous greedy asshole who revealed a secret mountain pass around behind the Spartans.
Lucifer's Hammer was great too.
I read a Clive Cussler book and thought it was silly throw away stuff. What am I missing here?
Vas, get drunk and tell us your Siddhartha story. I for one am interested.
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Heather
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12/9/2004 at 20:53 |
Clive Cussler is like Indiana Jones in print. Silly and fun and dashing. Hokey, but entertaining. |
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ghostrider
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12/9/2004 at 21:08 |
Some books I read a few times each year, and have since high school, a few i've mentioned but these are worth reading over and over:
Grapes Of Wrath-Steinbeck
a great book, one of the greatest, weird psych thang: i get hungry when i read it, as it is about starving people
Sea Of Cortez-Steinbeck
true story of his marine biology exploits.
Autobiography of Malcom X-as told to Alex Haley
divided into two parts, before and after Muslim conversion, both are good, when he was a kid, he dyed his hair, sold drugs, and fucked white girls, GOOD TIMES, shows his release of Nation Of Islam's racist policy via pilgrimage to Mecca.
Johnny Got His Gun-Trumbo
entire story is a drug-induced hallucination
Annie Frank: Diary of a dead Jew-
what can i say, I'm a sentimental fool
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Heather
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12/9/2004 at 21:37 |
Lord of the Rings made me tired. They were always walking and walking and walking. I'd close the book for the night and feel drained. |
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acheron
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12/9/2004 at 23:05 |
Lord of the rings is something you either learn to apreciate or never do. and yes. they sure were walkin a lot. I've found that with anything (music, literature, food, etc) I almost always dislike what I hear at first and then learn to apreciate it. This happened to me with Hugo's Les Miserables, which kicked my ass (the unabridged is huge) but I love it now. I also wasn't so in to Dune at first, but I've pulled a 180 on that as well.
I've black listed Dan Brown after reading another book of his and realizing they are all the same in reallly annoying ways.
Ok ok ok. New Subject:
BOOKS YOU HATE
FAULKNER. Maybe one day I'll apreciate him, but As I lay dying and the Sound and the fury sucked, at least when I read them.
How about you guys?
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ghostrider
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12/9/2004 at 23:17 |
why read a book you hate ? you've got to be fucking joking
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12/9/2004 at 23:19 |
vasudeva: government_death_robot: What's this Chuck Palanhiuk book?
Online short story by him called Guts -- well worth the next 6 minutes of your Thursday.
One day when I'm drunk on the Internets and feeling morose, remind me to tell you the story of how reading Siddhartha saved my life.
Read Guts before. Made my peepee place hurt.
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government_death_robot
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12/9/2004 at 23:21 |
Heather: about anything written by these guys is worth reading.
Azron123, I have about 20 Robert Ludlum books, you want them? I'll mail them to you if you're interested.
What's this Chuck Palanhiuk book?
I read about this one before... There's a haunted house or something, and this little kid
Lullaby
Wow, doode. I think that's it.
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acheron
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12/9/2004 at 23:27 |
ghostrideryyz: why read a book you hate ? you've got to be fucking joking
chut up. You've never read a book you've come to loath? Surely, my friend, you can think of something.
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vasudeva
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12/9/2004 at 23:33 |
Hated Greg Bear.
Hated Nathaniel Hawthorne.
Didn't care much for Hemingway, or Vonnegut.
The top worst book to get through I can think of was Charles Ginenthal's Carl Sagan and Immanuel Velikovsky. Velikovsky's record, and Ginenthal's defense of it, are awe-inspiringly, jaw-droppingly retarded and hard to read.
What sucked about Faulkner? I've never read him.
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acheron
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12/10/2004 at 01:06 |
Faulkner liked to use stream of conciousness style that boggled by head and made me hate him. In the sound and the fury there were 9 different characters and it was all told from completely different perspectives. Its interesting from a literary standpoint, but a MAJOR fucking pain to read.
Definitely disliked Hawthorne as well, and same thing for Hemingway.
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Stump
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12/10/2004 at 07:01 |
Wow, lot of people it seems were touched by Sidhartha, myself included. It's amazing the way a good book can change your outlook on life.
Add to the list: Ann Rand - with the understanding she was a survivor of Stalin and early communism.
I am one for starting a Linkswarm Book Club. Maybe an Amazon account that we share the password for and we all just add books to the list? |
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nocal
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12/10/2004 at 07:12 |
Faulkner liked to use stream of conciousness style that boggled by head and made me hate him. In the sound and the fury there were 9 different characters and it was all told from completely different perspectives. Its interesting from a literary standpoint, but a MAJOR fucking pain to read
This book is actually really rewarding, if you can make sense of it. Faulkner wrote an "appendix" at the end explaining some of the book. I almost put it down right away because it starts from the point of view of a retard. He wanted to write the ENTIRE book that way; good thing he didn't.
And Vas doesn't like Vonnegut?? I really would think that you would love Breakfast of Champions. You should read it, it's about how a car salesman goes apeshit and believes that everyone on Earth is a machine made to test him, the only being with free will. |
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vasudeva
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12/10/2004 at 13:28 |
nocal: And Vas doesn't like Vonnegut?? I really would think that you would love Breakfast of Champions.
Well, let me rephrase. I read a bunch of his books one after the other and, while they were cute and enjoyable, I saw no reason for the Vonnegut-worship in society. Would I read another of his books? Sure. Have I seen any reason to tihnk about them after I close the cover? Nop.
Every so often, an author comes along who puts out books that are interesting enough, yet easy enough to read, that they sort of bring reading to the non-reading masses. Harry Potter. DaVinci Code. These books aren't necessarily great as much as they consistently engaging for people whose reading habits typically consist of TV Guide and maybe Soap Digest.
Then, bored housewives all over the country read them, rave about them to their friends, and a month later the book is topping some best-seller list all because of units sold, and we have a new Holy Genius Author whose appeal is sort of bewildering. I wonder if Vonnegut, who is certainly a competent and enjoyable writer, went through this kind of circus of common-denominator appeal in the 70s. It'd explain his glorified place in the American Pantheon.
NB: I'm probably talking out my ass.
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vasudeva
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12/10/2004 at 13:28 |
Stump: I am one for starting a Linkswarm Book Club. Maybe an Amazon account that we share the password for and we all just add books to the list?
Do it.
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LORDKAHUNA
Don't make me fuk your moustache  SSHOLEPosts: 1593 Registered: 8/5/2003 Online
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12/10/2004 at 13:37 |
Books I hate, Every Xanth novel (Piers Anthony).
Stay tuned for more books I hate.
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dragonstaff
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12/10/2004 at 14:01 |
vasudeva: nocal: And Vas doesn't like Vonnegut?? I really would think that you would love Breakfast of Champions.
Well, let me rephrase. I read a bunch of his books one after the other and, while they were cute and enjoyable, I saw no reason for the Vonnegut-worship in society. Would I read another of his books? Sure. Have I seen any reason to tihnk about them after I close the cover? Nop.
Every so often, an author comes along who puts out books that are interesting enough, yet easy enough to read, that they sort of bring reading to the non-reading masses. Harry Potter. DaVinci Code. These books aren't necessarily great as much as they consistently engaging for people whose reading habits typically consist of TV Guide and maybe Soap Digest.
Then, bored housewives all over the country read them, rave about them to their friends, and a month later the book is topping some best-seller list all because of units sold, and we have a new Holy Genius Author whose appeal is sort of bewildering. I wonder if Vonnegut, who is certainly a competent and enjoyable writer, went through this kind of circus of common-denominator appeal in the 70s. It'd explain his glorified place in the American Pantheon.
NB: I'm probably talking out my ass.
In the case of the Harry Potter series ( and the three movies are pretty good for PG as well ) , you most definitly are NOT talking out of your arse. They have got more kids reading more books than almost any other series ever. And lets face it, getting kids to read is the most important thing. Adults can decide for themselves if they are going to do the intelligent thing or not but kids need all the encouragement they can get to read instead of hitting the gameboy or playstation etc. A lot of adults are finding their way back to books through Harry as well.
As for Vonnegut and his place in the American Lexicon, I can't comment, but I would prefer to read John Wyndham any day. The Day of the Triffids and The Kraken Wakes are classics that should not be forgotten.
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12/10/2004 at 14:08 |
What is Sidhartha? I have never heard of it before.
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12/10/2004 at 15:07 |
dragonstaff: What is Sidhartha? I have never heard of it before.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553208845/qid=1102690614/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-4008230-1460126?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 |
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ghostrider
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12/10/2004 at 15:09 |
dragonstaff: What is Sidhartha? I have never heard of it before.
Sidhartha-Hesse, one of those 7th grade reading level books that takes an hour to read, and leaves you far too hungry for more, I liked it, but it should of been far longer, and way more in depth. For that reason, I put it in the 'overrated' catagory
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Stump
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12/10/2004 at 16:52 |
We have a wishlist at Barnes & Noble.com, use spamtrap@megarad to log in, pass is swarmbaby. |
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vasudeva
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12/10/2004 at 17:01 |
Stump: We have a wishlist at Barnes & Noble.com, use spamtrap@megarad to log in, pass is swarmbaby.
"Welcome Chocolate Sausage. You can review or modify your account options below."
Haha. Good work.
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acheron
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12/10/2004 at 17:02 |
Stump: Wow, lot of people it seems were touched by Sidhartha, myself included. It's amazing the way a good book can change your outlook on life.
Add to the list: Ann Rand - with the understanding she was a survivor of Stalin and early communism.
I am one for starting a Linkswarm Book Club. Maybe an Amazon account that we share the password for and we all just add books to the list?
Yeah definitely. Atlas Shrugged was incredibly preachy but beautiful. Fountainhead is far and away my favorite.
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