Death by Government

Why are there still so many people in the world? What will it take?

Decider: middle_age_man

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  • LOki
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Lies.

TROOF!!!

Fundamentally true, but misleading!

  • tesco
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Obviously an attempt to make the lefties look less murderous than they are.

  • LOki
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I'm guessing you've finally got your meephurt all (mineral) sorted out.

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  • tesco
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No Loki, I had to put in a series of very long days.
My employees have the luxury of 40 hour weeks, mine are usually 65-70, when they get much above 75 I have to drop items from my personal time.
Conversing with you maroons was one of them.

Heh! "Employees"

  • LOki
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So ...

Are your employees busy trying to separate tritium from natural gas using mineral sorting by water?

If so .... LOLERCAUST!

@tesco

  • tesco
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No Loki
Nor are they pursuing how a fission reaction near one well could have created the phenomenon. They are engaged in productive profitable endeavors.
If I owned a natural gas well, I would be mining tritium from it, as that is profitable.
If I owned a coal mine, I would be working on how to extract the uranium from the coal as it contains more energy than the coal mined.

  • LOki
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Nor are they pursuing how a fission reaction near one well could have created the phenomenon.
Which "one" well, retard?

If I owned a natural gas well, I would be mining tritium from it, as that is profitable.

Really? Why is it then that those who do own natural gas wells unaffected by Project Plowshare fail to capitalize on these "recoverable tritium resources" you keep referring to.

Could it be that no such natural gas well exists? Could it be that natural gas formation and tritium formation are unrelated?

@tesco

  • tesco
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Loki
I was in error on one point. The experiments at the 3 plowshare gas sites were thermonuclear, not fission. However, there is no evidence that any of the gas from the sites was ever processed, refined, or used. It was apparently all burned off. They are, also still fenced off with warnings against digging in the areas.
The level of Tritium in nearby fields was slightly INCREASED.
Levels of helium and tritium vary from field to field, so naturally recovery is not always going to be deemed viable.
The production of tritium and helium from cold fusion processes is well domeepented and peer reviewed. While it is very unlikely to become an energy source as it appears to be an inherently inefficient process, it does occur.

  • LOki
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I was in error on one point.
Only one, tesco?

So you still hold to the retarded notion that tritium is a mineral that would be subject to underground mineral sorting by water? That natural gas is a mineral? That it is somehow "profitable to mine tritium from natural gas" drawn from apparently non-existent wells where the "recoverable tritium resources" you keep referring to exists?

You are not ENTIRELY in error on any of these points? Really?

The experiments at the 3 plowshare gas sites were thermonuclear, not fission. However, there is no evidence that any of the gas from the sites was ever processed, refined, or used.
There is also no evidence of natural gas deposits unaffected by that Operation Plowshare where these "recoverable tritium resources" you keep referring to were actually recovered. Why is that?

Levels of helium and tritium vary from field to field, so naturally recovery is not always going to be deemed viable.
Particularly--in the specific case of tritium--if no recoverable amounts of naturally occurring tritium are to be found in any natural gas formation. Right?

The production of tritium and helium from cold fusion processes is well domeepented and peer reviewed.

And not in contention. What IS contentious are your retarded notions regarding tritium and underground mineral sorting by water; your specious and unsupported assertions regarding naturally occurring "recoverable tritium resources" in natural gas formations; your persistently dumb insistence that there is some significant naturally occurring cold fusion process that better explains the presence of naturally occurring tritium in the Earth's crust, than the obvious and widely accepted explanation already held.

In summation tesco--exempting your non-contentious points--you are in error on EVERY point you've made on this subject.

@tesco

  • LOki
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BTW, when I say "not in contention," I am saying that I am not contending the assertion--it's just not necessary that I follow the red-herring you present in asserting that "the production of tritium and helium from cold fusion processes is well domeepented and peer reviewed" to ascertain the implication that such domeepentation and review actually validates your retarded claims.

  • tesco
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For the umpteenth time;
YOU claimed the tritium got there via water.
I said that there is no mechanism for that to happen, and that mineral sorting (the most common way items are separated by water) could not happen with tritium (mostly because it is not a mineral).
Recoverable levels of tritium exist in all natural gas wells. In many water sources also.
I suspect what you mean is recovery at levels that make economic sense.
Currently government sales of tritium from nuclear processes have made most reclamation projects not cost effective.
The whole point of this discussion was my original assertion that EVIDENCE of naturally occurring cold fusion reactions exists.
You're position was that ALL tritium in natural gas came from thermonuclear projects or ground water.
There does exist a plausible, though unproven, hypothesis to account for the helium. Accounting for the tritium is another issue entirely.

  • LOki
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For the umpteenth time;
YOU claimed the tritium got there via water.
I sure did.

That objectively verifiable fact of reality is not in contention, and not contentious. Moron.

I said that there is no mechanism for that to happen, and that mineral sorting (the most common way items are separated by water) could not happen with tritium (mostly because it is not a mineral).
Look retard, you clearly consider tritium to be a mineral as plainly evidenced by your easily linked to posting.

You see, meep, I was the one who had to explain it to you--over and over again--that tritium is not a mineral.

If you had ANY idea what tritium actually is, you would understand that the well understood concepts of condensation, gravity, capilary action, etc. ... are very well suited as the mechanisms by which tritium enters the crust--without having to invoke your idiotic mineral sorting by water nonsense.

Recoverable levels of tritium exist in all natural gas wells.
Yet you cannot produce a single one -- DESPITE EVERY OPPORTUNITY YOU'VE HAD TO DO SO!

Why is that?

In many water sources also.
Not according you, because ... you know ... "there is no mechanism for that to happen, and that mineral sorting (the most common way items are separated by water) could not happen with tritium (mostly because it is not a mineral)

You just have no idea how the internet works, do you?

I suspect what you mean is recovery at levels that make economic sense.
You would be better served by suspecting that I know that there is a significant and substantive difference between the terms "detectable" and "recoverable" ... even though you can't parse the distinction.

Currently government sales of tritium from nuclear processes have made most reclamation projects not cost effective.
No meep. How did I expalin this to you before? Oh yes!This is like saying it is much more profitable to extract water from plants than it is from animals. It may be true, but it is specious considering that water is even more available from lakes rivers and streams.

Your are ignoring the OBVIOUS reality ... which is not at all surprising. The is literally no profit made from mining tritium at all, considering the indisputable fact that producing it in nuclear reactors makes more sense."[R]elatively high levels of tritium... in natural gas" and "Recoverable" tritium in natural gas are just further examples of your "made-up facts."

The whole point of this discussion was my original assertion that EVIDENCE of naturally occurring cold fusion reactions exists.
And yet you fail to produce any of this evidence... just a list of your very own made-up facts.

Why is that?

You're position was that ALL tritium in natural gas came from thermonuclear projects or ground water.
That's what the actual evidence,/a>--peer reviewed, and re-validated consistently--seems to suggest.

And I didn't have to make up a single fact, declare tritium to be a mineral, or fatuously cite bullmeep pathological-science to support my assertion.

There does exist a plausible, though unproven, hypothesis to account for the helium.
exist a plausible, well substantiated in proven natural processes, hypothesis to account for the helium ... that has nothing to do with cold-fusion woo.

Accounting for the tritium is another issue entirely.

Nope. Accounting for tritium in the earth's crust is rather straight-forward.

@tesco

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