Why Not Renew the 'Assault Weapons- Ban? Well, I'll Tell You...
Summary
If gun control advocates want to actually have meaningful discussion and debate about the 'assault weapon- and 'high capacity- ban, they MUST address these questions:- Why ban cosmetic features?
- Why ban guns used in a mere 2% of crime?
- Why base gun control legislation on rare and statistically insignificant mass shootings to begin with?
- Why ban magazines that have been consistently sized since their invention?
- How would banning these magazines have saved lives, given that all a shooter needs is multiple magazines and 3 seconds of time (i.e. Cho)?
- How will a ban on either these weapons or magazines reduce crime, since there are many millions of them legal and available anyway, especially since production has ramped up after the ban's expiration?
And most importantly:
After a decade of failure, why assume that the bans will reduce violent crime THIS time around?
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LOki
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JohnLenin
on WE ARE STAR PEOPLE: Scientific proof we were created by aliens.: meeping mods, man.
LOki
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tesco
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on Cold fusion, maybe p'raps?: I bet you orderedit+
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on Cold fusion, maybe p'raps?: I wouldn't waste+
HOBO
You wish your meep was ripping
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BeachGoat
on Adios Ray Manzarek: https://www.youtube.+
Heather
on My man , Skanky.: Same.+
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LOki
on WE ARE STAR PEOPLE: Scientific proof we were created by aliens.: tesco: Math is not+
spankerchi+
I'd settle for a hoverboard. -With optional Dogjammer.
spankerchi+
IT'S 2013. Where the meep is the jetpack I was promised?!
bobacus
JOURNAL: My man , Skanky.
tesco
on WE ARE STAR PEOPLE: Scientific proof we were created by aliens.: OK I concede. Math+
tesco
on Gun Crime Has Plunged, but Americans Think It's Up: Changing my avatar+
LOki
also, dog jamming
pete56
on Interview With Charlie Watts: Great find. Charlie+
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LINK: Adios Ray Manzarek
Heather
(my meep)
JohnLenin
But the voice will be muffled on account of the fact that it's all the way inside a meep
JohnLenin
I'm putting you in the sequel as a talking catheter
JohnLenin
I will not be silenced
bobacus
oh shut up.
JohnLenin
Also, if dog jamming is my legacy then I will die happy
JohnLenin
fade out
JohnLenin
A bunch of meeping twats are sitting around sipping tea and making sure that one another is doing well and still in the room
JohnLenin
INT. SOME PLACE WITH MIDDLE AGED DUDES - EVENING
JohnLenin
also, the shoutbox would make a meep awful script.
JohnLenin
I didn't save the link to the script. Will have to reupload. unless someone from irc has it still.
linkswarm
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StartRecor+
on Gun Crime Has Plunged, but Americans Think It's Up: [@tesco](http://www.+
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MstrLance
The shoutbox could be a script, if we ever wanted to reenact the shoutbox.
spankerchi+
Linkswarm must live.
Senor_Smok+
While you're at it,fix the camphone thread stuff..kthx
Heather
Where is this LS script?
freakmachi+
middle_age+
If a person can 'literally- step on a nail, is it safe to say that one could metaphorically step on a nail?
LOki
on Gun Crime Has Plunged, but Americans Think It's Up: dragonstaff: "Tesco+
LOki
@ JohnLenin: Dog jamming. LOL.
spod
The Soul Rapers, great band!
bobacus
I knew I could get a rise out of you.
LOki
on WE ARE STAR PEOPLE: Scientific proof we were created by aliens.: "E-coli has over 9+
spankerchi+
Actually; I kinda DO.
MstrLance
You'll all sleep better knowing that JL is silently watching.
JohnLenin
I never bailed. I'm always lurking. Hard to chime in on the Dad-Bro circle. And if you compare me to dagwood again I'll rape your soul.
Cryogeneri+
on Gun Crime Has Plunged, but Americans Think It's Up: While I can't prove+
bobacus
meep you JL. You bailed.You're just like Dagwood.
bobacus
By a state or two.
spod
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dragonstaf+
Hey Bobacus, sound off if the twister missed you.
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on Gun Crime Has Plunged, but Americans Think It's Up: "Actually, as I am+
JohnLenin
I'd like to cash in all of my unused textwar credits to ban everyone from this webbed establishment
meeproach
on WE ARE STAR PEOPLE: Scientific proof we were created by aliens.: [@tesco](http://www.+
spankerchi+
textwarred tesco until 2013-05-27 22:12:35
tesco
on Gun Crime Has Plunged, but Americans Think It's Up: My shop is in+
tesco
on Why Is It So Hard To Quit Smoking?: Next they will want+
tesco
on WE ARE STAR PEOPLE: Scientific proof we were created by aliens.: La Cucaracha You can+
linkswarm
queue: New link: Adios Ray Manzarek
bobacus
It was his rock hall acceptance speech. Its seemingly only on HBO.
dragonstaf+
Link?
bobacus
I want to give the award for the best speech, ever, to Alex Lifeson. I think he found Ozzy's dealer.
Danny_Infe+
LINK: Depression Part Two
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[R.I.P. UNICODE-FLAVORED MOON LANGUAGE]
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Also, thanks to meepNinja for THIS.
Spankerchief, you are on notice.
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Thanks for this Loki.
It has contributed mightily to my on-going education, by informing me of things I didn't know.
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Ah, good article.
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@LOki
Is that how adam lanza acquired his assault weapon?
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"Is ....", wut?
@StartRecordingNow
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i was wondering - did adam lanza fashion his assault weapon from a shovel? I dont remember reading that.
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You were wondering, were you?
Well, my advice to you then, is to make an exhaustive search of the internet, every news agency in the world, and every record kept by every government regarding Adam Lanza, every AK47, and every shovel ever made, to find out for sure.
And don't just take "no" for an answer just because the first few hundred-thousand places you look don't say "yes"--keep searching and leave no stone unturned in your quest.
And maybe along the way you might find a point.
Let us know how it works out for you.
@StartRecordingNow
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I own a lathe and a mill, along with cutting, drilling, welding, and bending equipment.
While I could not make an assault weapon out of a shovel, I could make one out of a junked Chevy.
Not only that, it would be a real assault weapon. Not that thing Lanza used.
A 'grease gun' THAT is an assault weapon.
Easy to make, cheap ammunition, and short enough that no one would ruin your fun by grabbing the barrel even in a crowd.
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Loki-tool, defender of the gunless.
Looking forward to your weapons being confiscated.
Please, please, please put up a fight.
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Please, please please be the first.
@BigDinWaunakee
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Is your point in posting the ability to personally manufacture an assault weapon out of a shovel that anyone with the skill and incentive can get a hold of something that is otherwise illegal? Is that your point? That if assault weapons are made illegal that there will be a run on shovels and machining equipment?
Sat, Jan05
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No.
But that's a pretty good point.
So what's your point?
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Another Loki-spawn shot down in a hail of gunfire in Aurora, CO. The "heroes" head exploded like an over-ripe melon. +1 for the gene pool.
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It's just hilarious that you keep insisting these events have anything to do with me or what I think.
I'd just love to see the retarded calculus you use to validate your fatuous assertions.
@BigDinWaunakee
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I think I'll try it out for myself:
Another BigDinWaunakee-spawn shot down in a hail of gunfire in Aurora, CO. The "heroes" head exploded like an over-ripe melon. +1 for the gene pool.
Well, what do you know? It's works better for me than it does for BigDinWaunakee--when I do it, the assertion is valid.
@BigDinWaunakee
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I thought godless liberal guntakers were all into "science" and meep.
With no empirical evidence supporting any sort of weapon ban based on public safety why would they push this SO HARD, into our collective meep?
They've obviously an open-shut case on global climate warming cooling change cyclic seasonal flow.
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My calculus is:
1 Part Your Drivel
1 Part Your Ilk
1 Part Desire
and it equals all Loki, all the Time. With some exploding body parts.
Enjoy the upcoming legislation.
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Lolsome. I never dreamed you'd be stupid enough to submit it for examination.
For the purposes of counter-point, let us examine your product with the understanding that you do not consider it to be "drivel," but rather in some way more sensible than what I post:
"Westchester and Rockland, NY county gun permit holders are meeping meep. So, let me get this right. You think everyone should own a gun to deter violence, but when the opportunity to exhibit gun wielding l33t skills becomes a possibility, you run like meeps? Ah, c'mon, I thought you were tougher than that?
Loki, I see your fifth cousin on your Daddy's side just gunned down some firefighters. Keep it classy." --BDW
"Loki has ruined it for all reasonable and sane owners.
Maybe its time for the sane to hunt down the insane." --BDW
Seriously. Your reality check bounced; the account it is drawn from is bankrupt.
By comparison, even my intentional applications of absurdity are brilliant gems of sober sensibility.
My "ilk." How charming. My ilk consists of all sensible, rational, and capable human beings; decent folks who have no desire make obedient servants of their fellow human beings. We do not regard ourselves or others as a means to an end; being decent human beings is the most fitting and rewarding end by itself.
It's not at all surprising that you only make suggestions of what my "ilk" is--poisoning the well with maudlin appeals to emotion--rather than clearly and concisely describing what constitutes my "ilk."
The reason for that is even the most senseless of human beings would be capable of discerning the glaring discrepancies between what you're attempting to sell as my ilk, and what my ilk actually is. Your gutless stratagem allows you to claim some disingenuous plausible deniability when called to the carpet.
Your desire to see my ilk destroyed is also not surprising to anybody. Me and my ilk are directly opposed to your ilk's sanctimonious sense of entitlement to force (at gunpoint) it's self-serving "benevolence" upon others. The intellectual and moral superiority of my ilk is a painful reminder to you, and your bitter and envious ilk, that you're just a bunch of incompetent cretins with overdeveloped senses of entitlement to the lives of your fellow human beings.
... and I'll just take that as the compliment it was not meant to be.
Again, unsurprising. Considering how it is members of your own ilk--motivated and enabled by your own notions of "reasonable" regulations--that inevitably winds up shooting themselves in the foot (or the face ... whatever), when the law of unintended consequences enforces itself. It appears to be an unfortunate requirement that you retards find it necessary to victimize others before you blow your brains out--the only consolation we can hope for is that, on the whole, you are most likely surrounded by those who share in your moral and intellectual deficiencies when you finally get to your idiotic end-game.
Again, not at all surprising that you could suggest enjoyment over the prospect of regulations intentionally designed to leave everyone else--especially women, the elderly, and school children--even more vulnerable to the violent deprivations of your ilk.
@BigDinWaunakee
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Another of BigmeepinWaunakee's ilk shot in the face five times.
The reason the BigmeepinWaunakee opposes reasonable gun control regulation.
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