TSA, a national embarassment

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  • MstrLance
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Howzabout you swarm page one, instead?

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  • pete56
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The lure of the hasty post.

  • bobacus
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So I'm not the only one hearing an echo in here.

I somehow missed the page-change meepon and thought it was subscription.
meep reefer.

But at least I can spell shameface, given three tries.

  • BeachGoat
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ShamFarce...can soak up 7 times it's weight in excess foolishness.

  • LOki
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Libertarian Kook:
"Are there any experienced fliers who can picture airline travel without any security impediments at all?

Airline travel once had zero security save for the captain looking over the passengers and refusing to allow the occasional drunk to board the airplane.

Hijacking became a problem because passengers reckoned the cost of allowing the hijacker to divert the aircraft was more acceptable than tackling the hijacker and risking a gunshot wound. So, they didn't fight. Instead, corporate government saw a golden opportunity to offer the illusion of security in exchange for accepting a new authority governing yet another little aspect of your life and invading your personal privacy.

How did that work out?

If September 11, 2001 taught us anything, it's that security doesn't work. So, why do we put up with it? Why do we tolerate more failure at the cost of our personal freedom and dignity?

The point of the security theater is not to make anyone safer. It's to make you believe that you need this sort of nonsense to protect you from other members of your own community. The whole point is to get you to trust the corporations and government to protect you from your neighbors and your fellow travelers. The real goal of security theater is to sell paranoia.

That's the brilliance of it. You'll exchange the trust and human connection you may have with your fellow travelers and put your faith in a gang of complete strangers just because they're wearing uniforms.

Think of what this has done to your brain"
  • MrJingles
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I've been flying from Long Beach to San Fran and back every week for the past year, and constantly I am bewildered by the TSA. They've changed their procedures multiple times during this year and not a single change has improved security or reduced traveler burden. For instance, the SFO airport now asks to examine my boarding pass 4 separate times before passing through their millimeter-wave scanner, and occasionally asks again after going through.

And the Long Beach airport security amazes me with how bad the layout is designed. There's basically a long corridor for entering and exiting the airport lobby. This corridor is separated by a 7ft high fence/barrier. Those exiting the lobby can turn back at any point before reaching the end of the corridor and still be past the security checkpoint. Those entering the airport don't reach the security check point until reaching the far opposite end of the corridor. Basically giving 100 ft of unmonitored area to pass contraband to the exiting side over the 7ft barrier.

Ultimately, I have no illusion that the plain I'm flying in is any safer because of TSA. The best solution to the plane hijacking's from my point of view is the armored meeppit doors, and even then you have to hope the pilot doesn't lose his sanity
http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2012/03/jetblue-flight-diverts-to-amarillo-after-pilot-acts-crazy/657653/1
Additionally, I'm prepared at any moment to use force to subdue someone endangering the plane should the need arise, which is what I'd expect of any able bodied man in a similar situation.

I'm prepared at any moment to use slap someone silly to subdue someone endangering the plane should the need arise, which is what I'd expect of any able bodied sissy-man in a similar situation.

  • LOki
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"The point of the security theater is not to make anyone safer. "

@MrJingles

I've been flying from Long Beach to San Fran and back every week for the past year, and constantly I am bewildered by the TSA. They've changed their procedures multiple times during this year and not a single change has improved security or reduced traveler burden. For instance, the SFO airport now asks to examine my boarding pass 4 separate times before passing through their millimeter-wave scanner, and occasionally asks again after going through. And the Long Beach airport security amazes me with how bad the layout is designed. There's basically a long corridor for entering and exiting the airport lobby. This corridor is separated by a 7ft high fence/barrier. Those exiting the lobby can turn back at any point before reaching the end of the corridor and still be past the security checkpoint. Those entering the airport don't reach the security check point until reaching the far opposite end of the corridor. Basically giving 100 ft of unmonitored area to pass contraband to the exiting side over the 7ft barrier. Ultimately, I have no illusion that the plain I'm flying in is any safer because of TSA. The best solution to the plane hijacking's from my point of view is the armored meeppit doors, and even then you have to hope the pilot doesn't lose his sanity http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2012/03/jetblue-flight-diverts-to-amarillo-after-pilot-acts-crazy/657653/1 Additionally, I'm prepared at any moment to use force to subdue someone endangering the plane should the need arise, which is what I'd expect of any able bodied man in a similar situation.

  • LOki
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^ You are all kooky librarians.

  • LORDKAHUNA
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Edited the link to go to page 1.

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