Arizona plans to restrict protestors of funerals

finally someone will stand up to this BS, been wondering how this church hasn't been blown up yet.

I agree. The first amendment needs to be handed out judiciously.

All over the news and a bad idea.

A funeral is a private affair, why should some meep have a right to disrupt it?

I mean really, you would think there wouldn't be a need for an actual law, but some mother meepers just can't act right.

@GrapeApe

A funeral is a private affair, why should some meep have a right to disrupt it?

what if it was hitler's funeral?? that sound is your mind being blown

what gives you the right to disrupt hitler's funeral?

There are no such things as rights. We have privileges and these meephats are meeping them up for all of us. Burn their church to the ground and assmeep their daddy-preacher. Then they'll stop.

I was thinking bees.

Swarms of golden honeybees who's sole mission in life is to gently sting the protesters just a little. All funerals henceforth shall be held in fields of clover.

Hordes of family and proud vets bearing buckets of tar and piles of feathers should control this meep.

@Nocal

What if it was Jesus' funeral? Doesn't matter who's funeral it is and I wouldn't change the rules to fit my personal needs. I don't see where some person should have a right or privilege to protest a funeral.

sound of mind NOT being blown.

I was more thinking hydrachloric acid and stinging nettles, but i suppose whatever workks...@bobacus

sound of mind NOT being blown.

Mowded!

1st amendment status: destroyed.

A lot of first amendment junkies are whining about how this "destroys the first amendment", in reality, these people are all for something when it affects someone else, but when it effects them, they whine.

The first amendment has already been meep raped. Anyone heard of the FCC? And you people are worried about some christmeeps protesting a funeral? This is just one more thing the first amendment should not protect.

What else should the first amendment not protect?

Yelling fire in a crowded theater?

At the end of the day though, the civil rights we have can be just as easily taken away as anything else. We are going the way of Britain.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater?

At the end of the day though, the civil rights we have can be just as easily taken away as anything else. We are going the way of Britain.

christmeeps

Nice.

these people are all for something when it affects someone else, but when it effects them, they whine.

Not really. They're welcome to protest my funeral, and it would be their right to peaceably assemble to do so. I'm also interested to hear how the FCC has destroyed the 1st amendment.

Prohibiting what is allowed to be shown on tv? Are you kidding me? Freedom of the press, etc?

How is regular television "press"?

Think of it as the entertainment section of a newspaper, it's not necessarily news, but it is part of the paper as a hole. And as such, people should be allowed to use their freedom of speech, expression, and the like to write and show what they want.

By that logic, I suppose opinion columns shouldn't count either because they are not necessarily "news".

For someone who seems to be such a vehement supporter of the first amendment, you seem to like making excuses as to write certain things shouldn't be allowed to be shown.

Does that make you a hypocrite?

The 1st Amendment is gonna be a problem to overcome... maybe those handy Free speech zones the politicos like so much.

@DookaDooka

Congrats, you've made zero sense. I'm still waiting for you to explain how the FCC has actively censored a news story and therefore subverted the 1st amendment. Your childish, unimportant desire to see a naked meep and hear swears in primetime doesn't count.

The FCC puts RESTRICTIONS on what people can and cannot say or show. My "childish, unimportant desire to see a naked meep and hear swears in primetime" DOES count. How can you POSSIBLY not see that? You honestly don't think censoring is any different than "subverting"? Do you honestly want me to list all of the fines and the standards by which the FCC governs?

Nonetheless, it's about more than swear words anyway, if I cared that much, I could put my ear to Nocal's bathroom door after a night out on the town.

Go ahead whip em' out guys, what you preach is freedom of speech, so quit meeping when others practice. Can there be no rational conversations? There are many ways to view this, completely one way, or the other, or middle ground. In regards to @DookaDooka > Think of it as the entertainment section of a newspaper, it's not necessarily news, but it is part of the paper as a hole. And as such, people should be allowed to use their freedom of speech, expression, and the like to write and show what they want.

By that logic, I suppose opinion columns shouldn't count either because they are not necessarily "news".

For someone who seems to be such a vehement supporter of the first amendment, you seem to like making excuses as to write certain things shouldn't be allowed to be shown.

Does that make you a hypocrite?

Those family members and friends have a meeping right to mourn in peace too. To have respect for the ones they lost. No human life should be belittled, even when it ends. It is meeped up that people don't understand the emotional piledrive explosion that occurs after ones life is altered by such a tragic occurence. They have the right to overcome their loss without having such bullmeep hate and anger invade such a vunerable and trying time in their lives. How would you feel if they showed up at your brothers funeral? sister? Father? Mother? Daughter? Son? Wife? Husband? ETC. You would be disgusted and angry. You'd be just as appalled as the rest of us. How you can feel that such a private affair should be desecrated by people who are fuelled by others pain is quite frankly overwhelming to me. I can't help but sit here and think you must be some kind of meep, and had some kind of meeped up childhood to feel so hateful. And yet, whatever, you have your right to say it of course, but you have no right to expect other to listen and respect if you can't respect anything yourself.

No, actually they don't have this right.

@anothermonkeyenslaved

>They have the right to overcome their loss without having such bullmeep hate and anger invade such a vunerable and trying time in their lives.

Do you honestly want me to list all of the fines and the standards by which the FCC governs?

Sure! Of course it won't have anything to do with my original question, which is that you demonstrate how the FCC has censored or disallowed reporting of an actual news story by the press in this country at any point in time. And no, NYPD Blue episodes don't count.

Let's go back to the first amendment, specifically the portion relevant to this discussion:

@US Constitution > or interfering with the right to peaceably assemble

Well meep, what is this "emergency legislation" then if not a direct violation of this language? As long as the area(s) that the funeral and actual burial are on are public lands, the government has no right to enact such legislation. End of story.

They have the right to overcome their loss without having such bullmeep hate and anger invade such a vunerable and trying time in their lives.

They sure do! What they don't have the right to do is interfere or subvert everyone else's rights in the process.

What the meep answer are you looking for? In 2002, the FCC prevented a 9/11 domeepentary from airing because of the risk of it being censored just to name one, in fact, they've been working in the past few years to get government controlled media.

And no, NYPD Blue episodes don't count.

Okay, by that logic, the WBC's right to protest doesn't count either because Christianity is false.

or interfering with the right to peaceably assemble

I hardly call standing on a corner and shouting "meep soldiers burn in meep" and "God hates meeps" at any hapless citizens who happen to be walking by and most of all, to the family trying to bury their relative peaceful. Peaceful is more than just violence. But hey, let's just say we are censoring them, after all, it's not the same thing, right?

It doesn't matter what you do, you are going to interfere with someone's rights. Having women teaching in school offends Sharia Muslim's religious beliefs and not having them lashed and stoned does as well because it prohibits their free exercise.

Sure, I think you should have the right to say whatever you want, but you should have to deal with the consequences. If I say something that pisses people off, I have to deal with them possibly trying to beat the meep out of me.

It may not be recognized by the government as a right, but as human meeping beings, they should. Why must others even be concerned about it? This is why sometimes i think the human population shouldn't exist. We are stupid cruel, useless, and destructive. Earth doesn't deserve such punishment. Unfortunately, there is no way to resolve the issues with people, so of course It's going to be this way throughout existance. Whatever, I just hope that you can understand that people are all the same while being different. Human emotions run through everyone. It's meeped that people feel the need to manipulate them and bring out the worst. @Wotak > No, actually they don't have this right.

@anothermonkeyenslaved

>They have the right to overcome their loss without having such bullmeep hate and anger invade such a vunerable and trying time in their lives.

They actually do not have that right. It would be nice, and in a perfect world Phelps would perish with his clan in an horrific fire, but there is no 'right' to a peaceful, free-from-hate, funeral.

Unless you want to put forth the argument that "rights are God-given, and privilege comes from government". But that would lump you in with the Neo-Nazis and Militia wingnuts.

There meeping should be, cruel meeps. If some mother meeper comes to my funeral and starts being meepy, i swear some way or the other. I will meeping either meep them up as a ghost or find a way to resurrect myself. I am not going to die for my country to have some meepbag closet selfhomophobe preacher of hate come say i deserved it or whatever. Should i lose my life serving in the navy, i want my family to be able to say "c'est la vie" and go home. I then want to be set ablaze and turned to dust. So that i don't become goo in a hermetically sealed wooden box.

I can't say it's a god given right because i don't believe in god. It would make no sense. I believe that as people who have emotions, we should not go and devalue others'.

Concur.

To the concurrer go the spoils.

Whole lotta durpthink up in this piece.

It's like watching the death of critical thinking in living, breathing Technocolor®.

"I'm a big fan of the First Amendment and the rule of law and everything, but what if, just this once, the FBI and the Tucson police went to the movies for a couple hours while we tuned these meeps up with pipes?"

@Clavis_Apocalypticae
More like watching the death of common sense and civility. I don't understand how you guys can defend some asshats right to bully someone at one of the lowest points in their life.

I'm not defending anything. It's their right to protest. If you don't like it, work to get the law of free speech changed. Those folks meep me off, and if it were my son or wife's funeral they were protesting, i might bring out Mr. .40 cal and add some more holes to their head, but they certainly have the right under the law to bring their signs and pamphlets wherever they choose.

@GrapeApe

I'm not saying that I don't find WBC abhorrent and sub-human. I do.

The bottom line is that they have the right to peaceably assemble and to protest. If the government can find a way to justify removing those rights for WBC, the government can find a way to take those rights away from me, too.

The Constitution doesn't bestow upon us the right to not be offended or have our feelings hurt.

Well said, comrade.

:brophist:

@Clavis_Apocalypticae @ghostrider

OK, when you say it like that I can stomach it a bit better, I was thinking I couldn't be the only one thinking WBC needed a 2nd ammendment resolution.

"The Constitution doesn't bestow upon us the right to not be offended or have our feelings hurt."

very true, sometimes my emotions get the better of me.

A mind changed.

What the meep answer are you looking for? In 2002, the FCC prevented a 9/11 domeepentary from airing because of the risk of it being censored just to name one,.

I sure do remember this domeepentary. Swear words were bleeped out. How is this censoring the overall message/story, which would be a violation of the 1st amendment>

in fact, they've been working in the past few years to get government controlled media

hahaha, what the meep. blarg government takeover, black helicopters!

You still haven't shown me an example of censorship that is at all akin to banning the funeral protest. I.e., the FCC would literally have to arrest the news producers of a newspaper, network, or radio station for reporting a story. Bottom line is the FCC has not subverted the 1st amendment in respect to the press at all in this country. There's plenty to hate the the FCC for, but you've got your cart hitched directly to the outer fringe of the horse's meep on this one pal (I think the hitch is supposed to encircle the entire belly and back haunches of the horse instead).

@Clavis_Apocalypticae

@GrapeApe I'm not saying that I don't find WBC abhorrent and sub-human. I do. The bottom line is that they have the right to peaceably assemble and to protest. If the government can find a way to justify removing those rights for WBC, the government can find a way to take those rights away from me, too. The Constitution doesn't bestow upon us the right to not be offended or have our feelings hurt.

@ghostrider

I'm not defending anything. It's their right to protest. If you don't like it, work to get the law of free speech changed. Those folks meep me off, and if it were my son or wife's funeral they were protesting, i might bring out Mr. .40 cal and add some more holes to their head, but they certainly have the right under the law to bring their signs and pamphlets wherever they choose.

Thank you both for clearly illustrating the actual point here.

meeping wbc needs to be dissassembled, I wouldn't mind 'accidentally' finding a missile launcher and oh so 'unfortunately' dropping it as it was pointed towards the Fred Phelps clan.... I don't think I'd lose any sleep if the meeps who looked me in the eye and said i deserved to die, had a couple limbs come off and bleed slowly to death. Too bad there aren't any missile launchers just laying about. Dreams sadly remain dreams.

@ anothermonkeyenslaved

Keep hurpin the durp, bromeslice

meeping wbc needs to be dissassembled, I wouldn't mind 'accidentally' finding a missile launcher and oh so 'unfortunately' dropping it as it was pointed towards the Fred Phelps clan.... I don't think I'd lose any sleep if the meeps who looked me in the eye and said i deserved to die, had a couple limbs come off and bleed slowly to death. Too bad there aren't any missile launchers just laying about. Dreams sadly remain dreams.