Eye-Witness Report

meeper was good at wielding a weapon effectively

^ shooting unarmed people doesn't require much skill even if they are soldiers.

This particular idiot was:

1) A meeping religious nutbag 2) A meeping coward

I don't think he deserves credit for anything more than that.

it is becoming rapidly apparent that that particular breed of human is mentally unstable at best, and violently maniacal at worst. they can protest it all they want but there is too much evidence to deny it

Why is ANYONE against Capital Punishment for meeps like this?

uh huh.. you assume I have some kind of admiration for him, wotak. You're wrong. Nor do I find any for fanaticism of any sort, especially political or religious. It's unfortunate they didn't pop the guy, but now we might find his reasoning for it, and scale back some obvious wrong that helped to set him off, if they're real injustices. These things are catalysts for change, occasionally good change....That said, I don't actually give much of a meep about most humans I've never met, and never will, and the same goes for quite few folks I DO know. I doubt you're any different, beyond your circle of friends and family, and a display of social responsibility. There's too many lemmings, and too many tyrants to make us a worthwhile species.

...but, then again, I'm a meepin' meephead, and make no apologies for it.

This blew up the twitter app on my phone and had me riveted. Imagine if twitter had launched before 9/11.

'you assume I have some kind of admiration for him, wotak. You're wrong.'

No, I didn't assume anything.

You stated: 'meeper was good at wielding a weapon effectively'

To which I responded: 'shooting unarmed people doesn't require much skill even if they are soldiers.'

I never assumed you admired him, I just disagreed with your statement. I've read your statement several times and I don't think that anyone can assume you admire this individual from that sentence... but on the other hand, it is an incorrect statement. A 10 year old with 2 hours of training could kill a room full of unarmed men with an M16. That didn't take any skill or proficiency whatsoever. It simply took a fanatical mind, an extremely cowardly mindset and a retarded conceptual grasp of right and wrong.

9/11

<big><big><big>IMAGINE</big></big></big>

every report i've read so far seems to be downplaying the fact he was a muslim, or that he was one of the 'allah is love' type muslims, not the 'kill all non-muslims' type.

could it be, he was just a nut, who was also religious? The two do go hand in hand generally though. I've not seen any reports yet that say he was ulating all over the place with a nappyrag on his head shouting death to infidels, or stuff to that effect.

'could it be, he was just a nut, who was also religious? '

Yes, of course there is.

There is this, though

...and this.

There is also this.

The funny thing is, the original RAWSTORY piece that I linked to also said that he'd screamed 'Allahu Akbar' before the shooting but it seems to have been edited out. I also can't find any 'reputable' news source reporting on it at this time even though CBS made the original claim, as far as I know.

I'm prone to believe that he did but perhaps major media has been asked not to highlight it?

Stranger things have happened in this country, I guess. This does stink of censorship, though.

I'm prone to believe that he did but perhaps major media has been asked not to highlight it?

maybe he's not a religious nutbag?

i know you really, really, really want to believe it

but nearly every report i've read has been incorrect in some way since the get go (dunno if he's being deployed to iraq or afghanistan, two/three shooters, one shooter dead, etc.)

I'm prone to believe that he did but perhaps major media has been asked not to highlight it?

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This does stink of censorship, though.

who?

Who what?

who is doing all this censoring, or alternately, all this requesting that media outlets censor themselves?

I dunno, who?

i don't know, meepgot, so i asked you

you're conveniently pussyfooting around it though!

My feet are the pussays.

I just think it's odd that this was reported and then edited out but no retractions have been issued regarding this highly controversial issue.

I mean, if the guy was screaming 'Allahu Akbar' it would be rather hard for our government to deny that this was indeed an act of radical Islamic 'terrorism'.

As it stands, it was an act of terrorism, as far as I'm concerned. He was reported to be a devout follower of Islam by his own Mother. His motives so far seem to be to kill US soldiers before they could kill Afghans, which shows an alliance with their cause, at least emotionally.

I just think it's a bit odd that it was reported and not officially retracted. It makes it look a bit out of the ordinary.

Now, stop meeping my feet.

My feet are the pussays.

I just think it's odd that this was reported and then edited out but no retractions have been issued regarding this highly controversial issue.

I mean, if the guy was screaming 'Allahu Akbar' it would be rather hard for our government to deny that this was indeed an act of radical Islamic 'terrorism'.

As it stands, it was an act of terrorism, as far as I'm concerned. He was reported to be a devout follower of Islam by his own Mother. His motives so far seem to be to kill US soldiers before they could kill Afghans, which shows an alliance with their cause, at least emotionally.

I just think it's a bit odd that it was reported and not officially retracted. It makes it look a bit out of the ordinary.

you think that a muslim shot up an army base while screaming allahu akbar and someone managed to convince fox news not to say it?

meepty block quotes

ok think of something witty to add....oh meep. anyway what a horrible deed to become immortalize

The information released to reporters on this thing has been meeped up from the start. Originally both the defective major and the first responder who pumped four rounds into him were reported as having been killed. I think it was at least a couple of hours before that got straightened out. We could speculate that the powers that be were expecting the female police officer to die and then would put a fifth round just above the majors nose. Wild speculation, but maybe I can wish it true.

you think that a muslim shot up an army base while screaming allahu akbar and someone managed to convince fox news not to say it?

As I understand it, the White House has been granted very broad powers over this nation during a terrorist threat or terrorist attack. This attack easily qualifies as 'terrorist' in nature when you consider that even making verbal threats of violence can be considered a terrorist act under the Patriot Act.

It doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to consider that the White House would like the terrorist aspect of this crime downplayed in the media while an historic healthcare vote is being held. I think the Patriot Act gives it the power to do so, doesn't it?

The information released to reporters on this thing has been meeped up from the start.

The RAW piece that I submitted seems not to have changed other than the updates to status and the strange omission of the 'Allahu Akbar' quote. Other than that, it reads the same as when I submitted it, which was Friday night, IIRC.

I don't find it odd that the quote in question could have been misreported and then redacted. I just find it odd that nobody has printed a retraction and instead just quietly edited out the quote and pretended it was never made.

If anyone can find a CBS retraction regarding the 'Allahu Akbar' quote, please spill a link to it here. Granted, I haven't read the news yet this morning, but I haven't found any retractions yet.

I haven't found any retractions yet.

Some news institutions are still reporting it but the ones that have edited it from their stories have not printed a retraction.

(CBS/ AP) Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar!' as he fired on his fellow soldiers, the base commander said Friday.

'Speaking at the White House, Mr Obama said: 'We don't know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.'

'We do have a witness who reported that,' Col. John Rossi said Friday morning.

'The system is not doing what it's supposed to do,' said Dr. Val Finnell, who complained to administrators at a military university about what he considered Hasan's 'anti-American' rants. 'In retrospect, I'm not surprised he did it,' Finnell said of the shootings. 'I had real questions about what his priorities were, what his beliefs were.' Hasan reportedly jumped up on a desk and shouted 'Allahu akbar!' - Arabic for 'God is great!' - at the start of Thursday's attack.

Strange.

A Goondoggle search brings up Newbusters and Limbaugh in the first few, noting the disappearance of the headline/quote, and I'm too meep lazy to dig through a zillion links of propagandist meep (on both sides of the political fence)

^ that's kind of where I'm stuck too. The right seems to be screaming it and the left seems to be acting like it never happened even though some of them reported it earlier.

Oh meep, I actually agree with something that Joe Lieberman said on FLOX Naws...

Lieberman said evidence indicates that Major Nidal Malik Hasan was probably a 'self-radicalized, homegrown terrorist.'

are homegrown terrorists more nutritious and taste better than the regular store bought ones?

Some of these Canadian guys were terrorists: and I currently have 'em ground up ,and pattied and wrapped in my freezer, and I make meep good burgers.

.. though I'll admit that I've never had an Off-Their-meepin'-Rocker-Muslim burger, so it'd be tough to compare.

are homegrown terrorists more nutritious and taste better than the regular store bought ones?

This is a good question. Now I wonder as well...

Self-radilcalized home-grown terrorist = crazy person who shot and killed some people.

^ I agree Cocheese, and it doesn't matter if a religious faith was involved or not. which is where I stop agreeing with Lieberman's commentary... but, terrorism is terrorism and I consider the mass murder of unarmed humans a terrorist act.

I suppose this is just semantics, but I figure you can't call killing strangers an act of terrorism unless the goal is to strike fear into people so they will or won't do something you want - otherwise it's just mass murder.

Even if a person wants to instill fear into a populace on behalf of a recognized terrorist organization, if they just go out and do it without ever making contact with anyone in that organization, I'd be more comfortable calling them nuttermeepers.

Ditto , Lownotes. Terrorists serve a political/religious purpose, to call attention to it. Nuttermeepers jus' cain't take it no mo' ,a la(no relation) Micheal Douglas in 'Falling Down'

he was a good meepen terrorist

i mean, he served in the military for, what, 20 years? all that time...quietly obeying the law, plotting...

just waiting to get all terrorist on you

hey wotak do you think that those shootings by postmen were also terrorist attacks????

*CSI comptuter zooms in

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...As defined by post-9/11 law or pre-9/11 law?

...Since the Patriot Act isn't going anywhere, I'd have to say yes.

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UPDATE: Fort Hood wannabe terrorist tried to contact Al Qaeda