7 Years Later, Feds Say WTC7 Felled By Fire, Not Boom Boom

I still refuse to believe that this building was not destroyed for insurance purposes.

I still continue to update my calendars.

incredible how our government has no problem killing us.....there is no way those buildings were brought down by anything other than inside work sanctioned by people in our government.

huwantestmi Sat Aug 23
incredible how our government has no problem killing us.....there is no way those buildings were brought down by anything other than inside work sanctioned by people in our government.

Sez the self-taught structural engineer.

Sez the self-taught structural engineer.

lol

'I am really not a psychologist," he said. "Our job was to come up with the best science.'

So, they don't want evidence, what they really want is therapy.

Believe your government, if it gives you closure.

Believe your government

and engineers, and scientists, and demolitions experts

ugh i can't believe people just follow them blindly, you know??

The experts are certainly not unanimous http://tinyurl.com/3nw7ol

I want to know who invented jet fuel that can burn hot enough to melt steel because the last time I checked, it can't.

I want to know who invented jet fuel that can burn hot enough to melt steel because the last time I checked, it can't.

i can't even tell if you're serious

if you are serious: meep you, you insane moron, it only needed to weaken the support of the steel, not completely melt it

if you are not serious: gj dude

The experts are certainly not unanimous http://tinyurl.com/3nw7ol

that blog posting uses the fact that no report has been published about WTC7 as a supporting argument as for why it was demolished with explosives, as do nearly all the academics that question the whole 'fire destroying a building' story. i mean, read what some of them say about it:

Surely these Orwellian consequences of public ignorance constitute more than sufficient motivation for any patriotic American physicist or engineer to join the search for 9/11 Truth!

'As Bachmann told the Neue Zricher Zeitung Online on September 13, 2001, at first glance there seemed to be two possibilities in the fall of the towers. The first was the fire and its effect on the steel supports. But Bachmann had an alternative: 'In the second scenario, an additional terrorist action would have caused the collapse of the buildings. In this way, according to Bachmann, buildings like the World Trade center can be destroyed without great logistical exertion.' The article went on to say that 'Bachmann could imagine that the perpetrators had installed explosives on key supports in a lower floor before the attack.'

yeah i mean it COULD have been fire...OR ALSO they planted explosives! just as likely!

Huge discrepancies persist in basic facts, such as when it crashed into the Pennsylvania countryside near Shanksville. The official impact time according to NORAD, the North American Air Defense Command, is 10:03 a.m. Later, U.S. Army seismograph data gave the impact time as 10:06:05. The FAA gives a crash time of 10:07 a.m. And The New York Times, drawing on flight controllers in more than one FAA facility, put the time at 10:10 a.m.

Up to a seven-minute discrepancy?

WHOA seven whole minutes, i smell ZOG conspiracy

you'll note that virtually none of these people have any scientific claims.

it's bizarre. they make these weird speculative political points, with an awful lot of what-ifs and a disgusting amount of can't-be-trues with no follow up as to why

but i take it none of you actually read this stuff

condensed version for those meepers too lazy to read about how it wasn't jet fuel

"Our take-home message today is the reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery," Dr. Sunder said at a news conference at the institute's headquarters. "It did not collapse from explosives or fuel oil fires."

investigators determined that the heat from the fire caused girders in the steel floor of 7 World Trade Center to expand. As a result, steel beams underneath the floors that provided lateral support for the tower's structural columns began to buckle or put pressure against the vertical structural columns.

These fires might have been fed partly by the diesel from tanks and a pressurized fuel line, which were on the fifth to the ninth floors, Dr. Sunder said. But the analysis showed that even in the worst case, the diesel fuel-fed fire would not have burned hot enough or long enough to have played a major role in weakening the structure. The investigators determined that the fire that day was fed mainly by office paper and furnishings.

i'd like to get a copy of the computer program to try out different ways of collapsing the wtc, kind of like jfk reloaded

NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND FIRES NEVER DESTROY BUILDINGS

oh i seeeeeeee, its just like when they say guns don't kill people right? durrrrr

nocal: 'stuff, stuff, something, something, werds, stuff, meeparpie, stuff'

I love it when you get all educational and meep on our meep. I think it makes me semi-hard and a little goosebumpy :-)~ but not in a meep way or anything like that.

Larry Silverstein, the dude who owned the building, went on ABC or whatever and said publicly that they destroyed it. It's awesome how they can lie through their teeth and nobody picks up on it.

Larry Silverstein, the dude who owned the building, went on ABC or whatever and said publicly that they destroyed it. It's awesome how they can lie through their teeth and nobody picks up on it.

meeping idiots out of the woodwork. let's look at what he actually said, from the link:

'I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.'

'pull it' means to tell the firefighters to get the meep out of there.

that is to say, there are a meepload of people fighting the fire to try and put it out. it's starting to look like the fire is growing. it's starting to look serious.

silverstein can either say nothing and hope they can put it out, or he can tell them to get the meep out and save their skin.

he made the executive decision to pull them out.

hence 'pull it.'

do you think he would blow up the building with explosives, desire to keep it a secret in such a way that perhaps hundreds of people are complicit in the scheme, and then go on live tv and straight up admit to blowing up the building?

don't you conspiracy freaks believe in these giant secrets? how come whenever it's convenient for you, no one can keep these HUGE secrets?

The WTC wasn't all that, anyways. I can see why the govt destroyed it, as opposed to, say, Madison Square or that awful museum designed by that chinese dude.

^ werd.

Or that stupid Reichstag building.

nocal: do you think he would blow up the building with explosives, desire to keep it a secret in such a way that perhaps hundreds of people are complicit in the scheme, and then go on live tv and straight up admit to blowing up the building?
Pretty much yeah. That sums it up. People do what they're told and get paid. Did you watch that domeepentary? They even say 'pull it' is also a demolition term.

oh ok gotcha

i though that there were people in the building and he told them to get out to save their lives

but in actuality, there were bombs in the building, so he told them to get out, and then once it blew up, he freely admitted -- using an uncommon term -- that he only told the firefighters to get out because of the bombs. the firefighters also used this terminology because they were in on it.

i guess that makes sense if you are really, really stupid

Our Government has never before lied to us to get us into war... USS Maine Pearl Harbor Gulf of Tonkin Gulf War 1 WMDs in Iraq

...you unpatriotic sonsameepes.

Just because he said that doesn't make it true. Or I guess it does if you're really, really stupid.

Just because he said that doesn't make it true. Or I guess it does if you're really, really stupid.

lol yase a fire or bombs? hm yes probably bombs, and my argument hinges on the semantics of an old dude

this is an intelligent argument because *fartz boogers

I want to know who invented jet fuel that can burn hot enough to melt steel because the last time I checked, it can't.

Steel doesn't need to melt before being sufficiently weakened to the point where it can no longer hold up a skyscraper.

nocal: 'fartz boogers'

There is no way around this argument. Yew win.

mitchondrialadam: 'Steel doesn't need to melt before being sufficiently weakened to the point where it can no longer hold up a skyscraper.'

Yes, and this explains the pools of molten steel found under the debris?

__ YES

__ NO

I can has metallic hat?

Yes, and this explains the pools of molten steel found under the debris?

A pool of metal steel in no way confirms it melting from jet fuel in the crash, just that it melted. I'm not a scientist or a metallurgist. but wouldn't tons of pressure increase the heat in pockets of the rubble?

also unexplained: how come jews all knew what was coming

i saw this google video that said that they

Yes, and this explains the pools of molten steel found under the debris?

here's the thing about you meeping conspiracy believers: you repeat this meep in a vacuum.

do you happen to know whether there are pools of molten steel in the debris of buildings that have been blown up in a controlled demolition? what about in a fire or catastrophic collapse?

I DON'T KNOW AND NEITHER DO YOU SO WHY DO YOU REPEAT IT LIKE IT'S PROOF YOU meepING MORON

This flick points out some interesting FACTs relating primarily to the 'joke' 9/11 commission, it's joke budget, and the joke players. (It's not a meepty loose change type flick.)

Enjoy!

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Okay I am so sick and tired of the idiots of this world claiming the towers were brought down by explosives. Dear gods , I blaim the suckage that is the educational system for this.

As someone who HAS worked as an engineer, and has a good grasp of the material sciences let me set something straight. It is bloody meeping AMAZING that the towers did not come down the second they were hit. My hat is off to the engineers that built something so incredible to be able to take the shot they did and not come down that instant.

You see, it has to do with big numbers. Most of the idiots that spout loose change and conspiracy cannot or will not do the math. Or as we hold their little hands as they scan the sky for black helicopters and try and explain it. Because of the craptastic education system in this country they cannot accept it. Because in their little world they cannot wrap their little minds around the numbers.

I have tried to simplify it. down to basics that a 4 year old can understand and I will again. First things first, Fluids don't compress well... this is rather meeping important as it means the thousands of pounds of fuel in those tanks on those planes might as well have been steel blocks. I often want to take one of these conspriacy nutjobs, set him on the side of the road and hit him with a waterballoon at oh, 100mph. and see how much of his face I crush as I throw it at him. then a beer can filled with water at 450 MPH and see how big a hole I punch through him.

Basic understanding of the forces of the universe and how they are applied. = Oh NOES I HAS KINETIC CAN O BEER OF DOOM.

Geezus meeping christ America. Science and understanding of the maths involved have launched shuttles and cured us of disease, but apply it to a conspiracy then all the scientists are 'IN' on it and are keeping the truth from you.

READ A meepING BOOK. learn how much energy was imparted on the structures of those buildings and THEN come back with the MATH to show me your proof that they should have stood. If you even begin to calculate it and compare it to the .. what the meep , you don't care. DUR conspiracy's are cool

Again back to 4 year old mode, consider that a piece of FOAM like you would have for your cooler at ballistic speed ripped a huge hole through the heat sheilding, tiles, structual members and skin in the wing of the space shuttle.

FOAM at 650.00 mph. replace that with a same sized vessel of water and it would have obliterated the orbiter it and the fuel tank at takeoff.

Please , for gods sakes America , grasp the reality of math and basic physics. You are gonna kill us all unless you do.

perhaps there should be a warning on the frontpage when links like this get posted, something like this?

nocal: 'I DON'T KNOW AND NEITHER DO YOU SO WHY DO YOU REPEAT IT LIKE IT'S PROOF YOU meepING MORON'

You don't know and I don't know so I'M RIGHT. RASBERRY

(this is the; 'my theory is smarter than your theory' argument. It's as circular on my end as it is on yours.)

solion: 'READ A meepING BOOK. learn how much energy was imparted on the structures of those buildings and THEN come back with the MATH to show me your proof that they should have stood.'

Hey, here's an idea: YOU READ A BOOK AND GET BACK WITH US WHEN YOU HAVE PROOF THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MOLTEN STEEL THERE.

(This is the rubber/glue argument and it has worked since 3rd grade. When done correctly, no can defend Daniel-Son.)

*Mobius strips all up in yo meep*

nocal: i saw this google video that said that they

meepbox: google video

you people are pretty predictable, you know

Whilst I completely don't care about this subject matter ' this thread is heading towards Epic to some degree.

Why are the conspiracy theorists always going on about steel melted by jet fuel anyway? I totally buy the physics behind jet fuel HEATING girders to point of weakening, building bending over like a meepgot and collapsing on itself into a big inferno mound of death. Ruptured gas pipes, burning office furniture, burning people, burning JET FUEL reaching high enough temperatures to melt steel girders ' yeah, don't see why not.

guitarjon noo

nocal: i saw this google video that said that they

meepbox: google video

you people are pretty predictable, you know

Did you watch it?

haha

meep a cat