Democrats Win Congress

The 'wrong message' was getting involved in this clustermeep to begin with. Those 'blowing off' the war are republicans (who started it) and have had nothing but disastrous ideas/policies since.

Haha. It's a three- way race between wolfer's retardation, denial, and resignation.

WHO SHALL WIN?

Serious though, I love you.

See what I mean

Yeah, this kinda meep talking stuff is unheard of on this piece.

Yes, this debate is certainly one side 'jumping off the edge.' Your copy/paste histrionics seem to imply that the TERRORISTS WIN if we elect some democrats into some seats in the house and senate. It's not like democrats have been a big ol' stumbling block for Bush anyway. When his approval ratings were through the roof, they bent over backwards to accomodate him. Remember how many dems voted against the war? Against the Patriot Act? Now that his approval ratings are hitting rock bottom, they're abandoning him, and so are republicans. It's politics.

If the terrorists have less to hate us over, I'm all for it.

I believe the problem is with career politicians.

QFT. i get tired of hearing democrats == republicans; not true. they do, unfortunately, have the same motivations. first among equals being getting reelected (hence the bullmeep, middle of the road, watering down of most politicians' platforms). the other would be benefitting themselves financially. i'd hope that (naively) people get involved in politics to do some good (i.e. look out for their constituents' interests) and then eventually corrupt (much like cops), but i really doubt it.

furthermore, i've used my daily parentheses allotment already.

you are one parenthesis short of having the same number of opening parentheses as closing parentheses.

wait, I take it back, you're good

my bad guys

Nocal: South Park is actually sort of quasi-libertarian in their 'politics.' Ultimately though, they just rip on everyone.

Nonetheless, most people don't seem to mind career politicians. In fact, one or two senators won because their opponents weren't seen to have enough 'political experience.'

I think experience is exactly what we don't want.

I don't like big-party politics because ultimately nobody is really represented by those they vote for. If we weren't all blinded into picking between two candidates, and instead opened up to a wider spectrum, we could all be represented by someone who will work for our interests. The two party system denies us this right.

Oh, and anyone who thinks that ANY Repub. or Dem. is a political savior or hero is sorely mistaken. Barack Obama was in NJ campaigning for Robert Menendez, who is one of the biggest criminals in Washington (formerly the biggest Criminal in NJ)... He's not working for you, he's working for DNC, Inc. -- Just like Bush is pushing for the GOP Corporation... Don't kid yourselves. If anyone in these two parties was REALLY working for your interests instead of the party line, they'd be kicked out.

I like pie.

And I am for term limits on the House and Senate. If it's good enough for the White House, it should be good enough for the other two Houses of government.

I am Wrecker, and I approve this message.

Putin 4 prez '08!!!

Somebody convince me that this is a bad thing. (hint: you can't. HA!)

but usurping our rights in the name of the WAR ON TERRAH must happen--because if it doesn't, that means people could use the freedoms we have against us. So take them away, take all our freedoms away so we can be truly free and safe.

to be honest, I am glad to see a stop to all this bullmeep.

'Politics shouldn't be a means to making assloads of cash, and there should be strict term limits for every political position in the US. '

That is exactly what makes the parties alike. Both are rich and moneyhungry, both don't give a meep about you or I.

'That's why I won't be voting.'

Funny, cause there was a proposition that dealt with your exact complaint about insane campaign expenditures and limiting them...on the CA ballot. If you did'nt express your opinion by voting, why the meep are you doing it here?

'But it is interesting that South Park started this whole moral relativism thing that's gotten so popular of late.'

Wow, I think you give the Trey and Matt a wee bit too much credit. Seriously, wtf?

Funny, cause there was a proposition that dealt with your exact complaint about insane campaign expenditures and limiting them...on the CA ballot. If you did'nt express your opinion by voting, why the meep are you doing it here?

Yeah, as though politicians will allow that meep to happen. These are the same people that vote themselves pay raises. Besides the fact that, of all people, you should be wondering if our votes even count what with all the ballot box stuffing, hacking, and dead people voting :)

Wow, I think you give the Trey and Matt a wee bit too much credit. Seriously, wtf?

I'm talking about people on the internet. I would say that they caused a lot of the libertarian orgy that went on on the internet as well. Either that, or they are able to catch these silly political trends just before they become really big on the internet.

You guys are late, I thought this would actually happen , uh, about 2 days ago. thats really a great text war thing, im sure it nocal but really dude, where and why does the swastika have to come in it? because im a rep? I didnt know hitler was a rep ...oh wait, you guys link bush to hitler ...i see. Well thanks hahaha... if you think i give a meep about what you do to my av...i dont....i think its funny, i showed the wife, we laughed....

OK GUYS, HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT HIS AVATAR. EVERYBODY BACK TO WORK.

Well, I do think the whole 'preventative war' thing is rather like the sudetenland pretext. And the whole subverting the media and lying thing was reminiscent of fascist propoganda for sure. Anyway, I don't know where the pointy ears figure into the whole thing.

you guys think you could photoshop a thorned crown around my head with blood dripping from it too, that would be awesome.

is that Wotak's forehead?

I dunno but woofritters avatar comments wont make sense to anyone who reads this in a week.

FITE preserved!

I think its one thing to not support the war but to not support the soldiers is another thing. They are ordered to go there or spend time in jail. When they sign the bottom line they are told before hand what the possibilities are. For any of you to say you dont support your soldiers is meepin wrong. You dont have to support the war but atleast give these men your respect. Some dont want to be there, they would rather be with their family and friends. I have been in the military and no the fealing of having pride for your country and when I see those soldiers over there getting shot and blown up, it makes me want to be there more for them. They dont have a right to say they dont want to go unless they want to spend time in jail.

Nocal, your a meep for saying you dont support your troops. meep you I hope a meepin rag head slits your mothers throat.

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If they don't want to be there, they shouldn't have signed up in the first place.. seeing as how they were told of the possibilities of their enlistment beforehand. True, some of these guys deserve respect for having meep, but all those natty light slamming hillbillies that signed up to preserve their father's idealism of a true american are just plain sad. If our school systems were better, they could have been redneck doctors or something. :'(

Charming.

Another example of pointless oversight.

The 'you don't support the troops' line is a complete non sequitur designed purely to throw the debate into the You Traitor ditch of conversation and away from the You meeping Idiots Why Did You Get Us Into This sparkling wine glass of conversation.

When I went in 11 years ago my wife was holding our first child. I was making 8 bucks an hour with no benefits. It has nothing to do with 'my father was in and his father was in' or ' hehe im a redneck and want to shoot me some ragheads'. Maybe some are but the ones I have met mostly had nothing else in their lives and wanted more. Its a gamble you go in you learn a trade you get out or you have the possibilty of war.

Alot of families have lost fathers, sons, mother, daughters, sisters and so on. Some have lost arms, legs and the posibility to even live a normal life after coming home. People like Nocal who says he dont give a meep and doest support the troops is meepin outright wrong. You put a swastika on my head and this guy dont give a meep about the lives lost and the people out there fighting because they were given a command to do it. Im sick to my stomach right now even thinking about it.

Im sure everyone of those soldiers out there would rather be home with there wives and going to their 8 to 5 jobs and having some burger king everyonce in awhile. I would love to see you stand out at an airport when several hundred soldiers come home and say you dont support them.

I dont know what more to say and after this bullmeep and these childish meepin comments. Some of you act like a buch of meepin gold spoon fed babies. Get over yourself. Do you even know the meaning of life?

I know that 'the meaning of life' should not be about starting bullmeep wars that cost billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and untold amount of goodwill and political capitol around the world. The people fighting it have no say in it unfortunately, they signed up to be unquestioning drones. But this really is not about them at all, is it?

you wanna know how to end poverty and keep these poor helpless chaps out of the military? STOP REPRODUCING. thank you.

Without future Wolfers reproducing, who will shoot our guns for us?

Well, in a way it is - if you really love our troops, then you'll want them brought home, instead of fighting some nonsensical war in someone else's country that doesn't even really affect us. And now that the Dems are taking over, wolfer should be overjoyed.

Personally, I think we owe a lot to Iraq and Afghanistan also, and that if we do withdraw troops, we should do a lot towards helping them in other ways, if possible. But I don't really expect the Dems to do that any more than the Reps - it's only that I think the Dems will do less damage.

Personally, I think we owe a lot to Iraq and Afghanistan

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When we invaded their countries, it was with the understanding that the enemies were the governments, not the people. We made promises to them to help them rebuild their countries. Afghanistan was in large part forgetten and left to decay into an opium economy with a Taliban resurgence, and it is generally accepted that we totally screwed the Iraqi reconstruction effort.

So yes, I think we owe them.

Haha. It wasn't my textwar, and if it was, you can be sure I'd claim it. I like the fingerpointing though. Do you not realize that my avatar is of a republican? And meep the troops, man. They know what they're getting into. You say they took a gamble. No meep. They were trying to suck the teat of the US government without having to go to war, and that meep backfired on them. Welp, suck it up and go to war. I don't have to suck your meep for doing your job. Now maybe I'd be ready to suck their meeps (in a row, not all at once) if they fought a war of my choosing. But that meep is really like saying the good people at Kinkos make copies for you. Now you can argue against the owner of Kinkos but how dare you insult the minimum wage workers therein?! It's their meeping job, they get paid for it. Ok new thought, if they go to Iraq for free and fight the evil terrorists out of the goodness of their own hearts, I will suck their meeps. Get to work on that.

And as for this: Do you even know the meaning of life? What are you getting at? You know the meaning of life? Let me in on it.

I would also like to say that I'm glad that Wolfer can at least stand up for what he believes in, which I certainly respect. Hopefully there aren't any long lasting hard feelings from this...

Dude, I'm getting a hard feeling just thinking of Nancy Pelosi :)

jwalker: srry, I was thinking in a pre-war context

The people that work at kinko's can tell there boss to go meep off and go home. no worries.

Yea guitarjon, oh Wolfie reproduced when he was 22 and couldnt afford his son. You know what though. I live in a 4 bedroom house and have 2 vehicles. Go to school online and have a 2 year old with the same woman and we both hold jobs. We go out to eat and spend $80 doing it. I have taken in foster children, because he was my sons friend and his dad was on meth.

I wouldnt want anything more than for the troops to come home. Thats stupid that you would think that I would'nt want that. There is (I think) certain ways to do it. To only make sure that we dont compromise our integrity.

Nocal I assumed you nigered me because you thought I was refering to jews in my comment, I wasnt. When I have gotten into heated arguments before and seen on tv people freaking out they always had that same look. I didnt refer to any type of person. They just seem to be the ones that freak out more than anyone e

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