a mother in AR.........15

Although I may be impressed by your wherewhital and obvious knowledge, I have to ask why you would take on such an endeavour and display it in a public forum. Is this build driven by a need for personal protection, a want for political statement or have you reached a point in your life when you are able to build a gun and be proud of what you have created?

My two cents: Guns are guns, they have a singular effect and many purposes, but an Assault Rifle is a gun created for a single purpose: Killing Humans.

I see no need for criticism.
Killing humans is a fine and noble calling.

Also, Glenn Beck has sucked enough meep. You can rest... For now.

Spank licks meep and kills men AT WILL.

It is a fine sword, friend. The blade is broad, the heft; sufficient. The point is clean and rounded in just the right manner. I would have such a sword in the event of a zombie apocalypse. Any Roman would be proud to advance into battle with such a weapon in his hands.

What milti-tool is that there on the table top?

Somekind of meepknife?

@meeproach

It's a Gerber I got for christmas about 10 years ago. I've read that Gerber's gone downhill lately, but that little thing is a tank.

@Phlebas

All guns are instruments of death. Singling one particular model or build out as somehow more evil than others based purely on function or looks makes you look ignorant. It also makes you look like a tool of the gun control lobby, which typically does not base its arguments on facts or logic but on raw emotion.

This gun is probably one of the worst I could use for personal protection in any reasonable defensive situation I could ever expect to find myself in. I don't think it'd be good for hunting (which I never did and don't plan on starting). I see no good way to make a political statement with it, aside from going to war against those with opposite views than my own. This probably wouldn't work out very well for me since the people who protect this country from such "uprisings" have far more and better weapons themselves. I would also much rather prove how much better my ideas and politics are than others without using violence. I will admit that violence works well, but it is extremely pedestrian when used as a political tool.

I mainly built it because I wanted to, and I could. It also looks really sweet with that Magpul furniture.

@ meepNinja

Does your 10 yr. old Gerber have those slide out jaws and are they all loose and flop out when you don't need them?

Looks like a fun toy. Sometimes you just want to have things like that because you can cause a great deal of destruction in a short period of time to an innocent target, like a milk jug or a watermelon.

@meeproach

Yes, and no they don't. I love the "sliiing, click" sound it makes. I've probably done that a thousand times since I got it.

Good work for sausage fingers.

Gravel pits are fun, but meat is tasty.

Actually, this is one of the most versatile weapons available. One could literally turn this rifle into an oversized handgun if one were so inclined.

The real strength of this weapon lies in it's maximum effective range. Out to about 300-350 yards, this rifle is meeping deadly. The round is designed to begin tumbling at about 150 yards and that combined with it's accuracy out to about 400 yards, makes it one of the most suitable weapons for defense at safe distances. If you have to eliminate an enemy, you don't want to find yourself in a situation where you're already within pistol range. You want to eliminate that enemy before he gets that close.

Having qualified Expert in the Army with the M-16A1, I can tell you, with absolutely no doubt in my mind, that with a bit of practice and some good shooting habits, you can hit soup can lid sized groups at 300 yards, all day long with that rifle using only iron sights.

While I agree that you'll never likely find yourself in this type of defensive situation, I see nothing wrong with being prepared for it and with that particular rifle, you'll be very well prepared. You're also going to have a meeping blast at the range.

@meepNinja

>This gun is probably one of the worst I could use for personal protection in any reasonable defensive situation I could ever expect to find myself in.

This rifle is not limited to the purpose of "killing humans" as Phleabag implies. It also kills many other species of mammals too though, like mentioned above, there are some weapons better suited for the job.

Target shooting is the primary reason I own my weapons. For sport. The possibility of needing them for self defense is quite low and I carry my recently demonized Glock with me everywhere allowed by law fully aware of my surroundings and with complete intent to consciously avoid any situation that may require its use.

Wotak said it right, there is nothing wrong being prepared for a meepty situation that you or your family may (however unlikely) find themselves in.

My foil is not limited to the purpose of "killing humans" as Phleabag implies. It also kills many other species of mammals too though, like mentioned above, there are some weapons better suited for the job.

Competitive fencing is the primary reason I own my weapons. For sport. The possibility of needing them for self defense is quite low and I carry my new concealed sword in a cane with me everywhere allowed by law fully aware of my surroundings and with complete intent to consciously avoid any situation that may require its use.

Wotak said it right, there is nothing wrong being prepared for a meepty situation that you or your family may (however unlikely) find themselves in.

Think me a meepgot-nerd?

You should, and should think about how pointy my sword is.

@meepNinja

Interesting. I know so many Gerbers of that vintage that do. I'm a Letherman-man m'self. My 10 yr old Wave II is as solid as the day I bought it, and at this point in our relationship I owe it much love and respect.

Awesome project, and inspiring, too. I always wanted a Nordic competition-style single shot .22. maybe i'll just go ahead and make one.

^Let me know how you go about doing the rifling if you do.

I never did like the AR variety of rifles. They never felt good in my hands. Have fun with your new poodle shooter :)

@meepNinja

The political statement was made in your first sentence of the post and it is why the other questions were posited. This is a neat build, I just wondered why you had to introduce it with such a fearful intro. It kinda sounded like the first step toward a fortified cabin in the woods and I questioned the processes. I like guns and am a fairly good shot. I just hate it when people lead in with a conversation about gun control being the flag of the liberals when the largest legislation on gun control is the Brady Bill.

Uh... really? I'm obviously being sarcastic/ironic to the max.

guns don't kill people, very fast moving projectiles kill people

My pistol grip isn't in yet, but the buffer tube came today and I couldn't wait to get it all together.

UP THE IRONS





I seem to have put it together correctly, as all function checks passed. Just wondering from those of you who may know - is it normal to have a small amount of play between the upper and lower? I'm just wondering if I forgot to tighten something down...

"is it normal to have a small amount of play between the upper and lower? "

No

Yeah, after checking around it looks like I may need an Accuwedge.

Mine's definitely not as bad as this guy's is, but it's certainly noticeable.

This is pretty normal for stock guns. In the military, probably 99% of the M-16's you'd have handed to you through the armory window would be sloppy between the upper and lower. They shim match rifles for competition and some special forces and use nickel coated bolts and other upgraded parts.

Best thing to do is take it to a good gunsmith and have him custom fit the two halves. He'll ad metal to the joint and re-blue it. You'll never know it was done when he's finished.

Looks good, BTW.

@meepNinja

is it normal to have a small amount of play between the upper and lower?

Eddie approves. m/
Nice build, I always wanted to get a bushmaster, just never had the extra dough to justify it.

@GrapeApe

Build your own bro. Cheaper.

@metatron

I know I am being a lazy meep by not looking up myself.. but ballpark, how much cheaper would it be?

@meepNinja

How much did you spend on the complete build?

I just talked to a friend at work. He told me you can cobble one together for $700

He's getting me the websites to order from today. I'll post tonight so's anybody interested can compare notes.

Accuwedge can do the trick but for future builders out there it helps to get an upper and lower that were made by the same company if possible. And certain brands will have tighter specs than others (both uppers and lowers) regardless if they are "mil spec."

Bummer with the accuwedge is it interferes with the LL you may or may not wish to have.

@spankerchief
If you have problems finding someone to transfer the OLR there are tons of guys up here that will do it. PM me if you have questions. :fart:

@GrapeApe
Including 4 Magpul P-Mags and 5 metal Bushmaster mags, 852 bucks total. I also picked up a drop-in .22lr conversion kit for about 155.

Of course now I have to buy all sorts of lights and optics and rails and lasers and puppies to mount on it, so I'll probably end up spending a little over 1k when it's done. It was fun as meep to put together, even if I didn't enjoy shooting (I do). I'm going to try and take it to the range this weekend, assuming the weather is nice. There's nowhere around here to shoot rifles indoors unfortunately.

@meeproach

I own swords and guns. We should talk.

I haven't actually competed in a fencing touney in years.

I don't actually own a concealed sword in a cane either. However, I've always loved the pistol grip on my epee and I've always wanted to make cane style scabbard for it.

I should talk to spankerchief about that...

PM me a sketch of what you kinda want (with dimensions).

> Singling one particular model or build out as somehow more evil than others based purely on function or looks makes you look ignorant.

Really? So you'd say that a bolt action .22 is on a similar level as a M61 vulcan? Would you also compare a hand grenade to a 2,000lb aerial bomb?

If you're on the receiving end, you'll end up just as dead with any of those.

@Mofo

> Singling one particular model or build out as somehow more evil than others based purely on function or looks makes you look ignorant. Really? So you'd say that a bolt action .22 is on a similar level as a M61 vulcan? Would you also compare a hand grenade to a 2,000lb aerial bomb?

No I would not say that because it's retarded. I absolutely acknowledge that fully automatic and explosive weapons should be illegal for the general public to own. This rifle is not one of those.

@Whittey

If you're on the receiving end, you'll end up just as dead with any of those.

Correct.

stupid quote italics meep!

>"Singling one particular model or build out as somehow more evil than others based purely on function or looks makes you look ignorant."

>"I absolutely acknowledge that fully automatic and explosive weapons should be illegal for the general public to own. "

You ignant?

Full auto and explosive weapons, which are currently legal for the public to own, are fun as meep.

I was addressing the popular concept amongst gun-control groups that the AR/black rifle is "evil" based purely on its looks. I didn't mean to cause confusion by putting "function" in there. I fail to see how common-sense laws that prohibit civilians from owning military-grade weapons clashes with what I said. Seems like you're reaching pretty hard.

@Whittey

Full auto and explosive weapons, which are currently legal for the public to own, are fun as meep.

Expand on this please. I know that you can jump through hoops and get a friendly meep exam from the ATF in order to own a machine gun, but wasn't aware explosives were legal as well.

Explosives like grenades/mortar shells/etc are all considered Destructive Devices. The hassle with them is that you would have to provide proof of destruction when you use them. That and you'll have to register and pay your tax for each item, so it would get prohibitively expensive. Luckily you don't have to find pre-'86 DD's, as you can buy/make them brand new. Just pay your 'taxes'.

Hey guys, I love it when a post about building a rifle turns into a peepee contest! It's like every thread on every gun-related message board ever!

I don't give a meep about gun control. People are going to kill each other, gun or no gun. It's not like England has solved violent crime. All I took offense to was @meepNinja claiming that there is no difference in "evil" between guns, when their obviously is. Sure, comparing your ar to a minigun is reaching, but I could have easily compared it to an automatic ak.

Rick meeping Perry was cited in the newspaper as carrying a

ruger with hollow points and a laser sight to shoot coyotes as he jogged, so it's entirely possible to assign any function to a gun. But you can't say they're all the same.

I also like action figures, tough guy.

Range report on this meep: shoots like a dream now. I say now because today was its second outing. The first didn't go so well. It would jam, doublefeed, and FTE every few rounds/mags. I thought the cheap Russian steelcase I was feeding it might be the issue, but it ate everything fine today. I think the real problem was I never cleaned the factory oil and meep out of the upper after I put it together. That stuff isn't proper lubricant. After that first outing I took everything apart and cleaned the meep out of it, then lubed it properly.