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  • Wotak
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The Ben Hogan swing... a thing of beauty.

I started playing golf this year. It was May and one of the other engineers at work asked me to join him for a round. I said, "Sure, I've got some old clubs in the basement. How hard can it be?"

Guess what - It's not meeping easy.

We played a few 9 hole rounds and I lost more golf meep than you could imagine so I decided to research the game and look for info on how to improve. After many Googles, I found that video analysis was a good way to determine wtf is wrong with your swing. I did this here:

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To watch that swing now is lollimeepinglicious. I had zero clues. I thought the meep was easy and I was asking for help. I got a single reply to my video post on the googles and, after that, he and I exchanged a few emails. Because of this exchange I began watching the pros swing and eventually was lead into a study of Ben Hogans swing. meeping awesomeness. It was like I found Mecca and there we no sand niglets waiting to shoot myself. Heaven on earth with bacon storms on the horizon every day.

I studied, watched and practiced for hours. 2, 3 or 4 hundred swings at the local range on Friday nights ='d warm ups for each Saturday morning. I played 18 to 27 and even 36 holes every Saturday for the entire summer. The boss and I even snuck out of the building for a few rounds. I got meeping hooked. Like crack but without the whole "sucking meep for a hit" thing.

Finally, in August, I broke 100 with a 97 for the very first time. Not as exciting as my first birdie, but it was a landmark day over a beer when we added up that score at the 19th hole at Fore Lakes.

I decided it was time to look at my swing on video again and see what else I could improve. This time it looked like:

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This time I placed this meeper on my desktop as wallpaper (Vista) for about a week. Every time I opened the lid on my laptop, I was slapped in the face with my swing. I saw holes and weak points like: my right elbow not remaining tight enough to my torso... My left wrist breaks down immediately after impact... and a failure of my right arm to follow through and turn over after impact, of course resulting in the ugly 'hugging the left shoulder with your wrists' finish.

During this time, I've developed a slight hook. It's very consistent but it's also quite annoying. So I researched more, asked more questions and read more. I bought the "Ben Hogan Collection" - a DVD series that allows me to interactively study the greatest swing ever.

Along with this study I also stumbled upon an old Hogan quote that relates to my current woes (a consistent hook ) and it directly corresponds to my uneducated study of my own swing: a weak left wrist (hand).

Hogan claimed the left hand had two functions in the golf swing:

"First, to hold on and second, not to break down. To elaborate he went on to say, "You don't hook a ball because you have a strong right hand, you hook it because you have a weak left hand."


So, tomorrow I hit the range with hopes of studying this theory and working on my newbie swing. With a little luck I'll better my 97 this weekend. If not, at least I'll learn something and get a bit wiser.

I love this meeping game. It's the first thing I've ever attempted in this life that has both humbled me; and begged me to keep trying.

Except for the swarm, that is.

Journal meepery commence!

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  • Wotak
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I like this idea. It's a fall and winter sport in Michigan. I may look into it. For beer drinking reasons.

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Golf rules, I became addicted years ago.

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Please, see my latest swing and comment on why you don't swing this way.

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Probably worse, but still play

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nice stance in the first video, tex.

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also: your waist seems to bob around a little excessively in the second video. Do you think you might need slightly longer clubs?

  • HOBO
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You are getting the clubface open to quickly. At the top of you swing notice how you can almost put a beer on top of the open face. Your grip is a mess. The right hand is much to strong. I would like to see you get more weight on your right side when you take your stance. Hopefully that would stop the swaying. The swaying is causing you to "come over the top". You can have the strongest grip in the world but if you come over the top you will slice the ball.

As far as the right elbow is concerned its ok for it to be away from the body during the backswing , its during the downswing it should get back into the body. This will happen automatically if you are bringing the club from the inside on your downswing.

Currently you have a classic high handicapper in to out swing plane. You have put "bandaids" on the swing to cure your slice. You need to figure out how to develop an out to in swing plane.

Good luck

  • Wotak
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johnlenin

"nice stance in the first video, tex."

Every time I watch that video I cringegiggle. I am slightly bow legged but that frog squat stance I started with made me look like I was sitting on a horse. I also tee'd the ball up dead center in my stance and never attempted a stiff left arm. I'm surprised I could hit a ball at all.

johnlenin

"also: your waist seems to bob around a little excessively in the second video. Do you think you might need slightly longer clubs?"

Good observation. When I made that video (last month) I was working on my trigger move, or the move that begins my downswing. Ben Hogan used a shift of body weight from the right to left of 90% combined with an uncoiling of the waist. This was my earliest attempt at that move. In the video you can see that I have too much lateral movement. Watch my head. It moves a good 10 inches from left to right to left again. I have improved that sloppiness and will post an update vid at some point.

I'm only 5' 9" and my clubs are fitted properly to my wrist height. It's my mechanics that need to be corrected.

hobo

"You are getting the clubface open to quickly. At the top of you swing notice how you can almost put a beer on top of the open face. Your grip is a mess. The right hand is much to strong. I would like to see you get more weight on your right side when you take your stance. Hopefully that would stop the swaying. The swaying is causing you to "come over the top". You can have the strongest grip in the world but if you come over the top you will slice the ball.

As far as the right elbow is concerned its ok for it to be away from the body during the backswing , its during the downswing it should get back into the body. This will happen automatically if you are bringing the club from the inside on your downswing.

Currently you have a classic high handicapper in to out swing plane. You have put "bandaids" on the swing to cure your slice. You need to figure out how to develop an out to in swing plane.

Good luck"

You're right, my grip is a mess. The right hand is too strong and the left is as well in that second video but left wrist breaks down through impact and that has given me a hook. I don't have a slice.

You're also right that I need to correct the weight transfer in my stance. Those two things are exactly what I plan to work on today at the range. I want to pivot around a solid, unlocked right knee and use less lateral movement to trigger my downswing.

I also think that an improved grip will help me square that club face through impact and help me control those leftward bound lost meep.

Thanks for the comments guys. I've never had a lesson and I've learned all of this meep by either reading, watching or asking for advice. Good advice has proven to be solid gold for me so far. I will post an update vid shortly.

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Forgive me, but I'm digging the new Wotak.

  • mundhra
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attack of the content!

i've thought about getting into golf, but i really don't have the time. i loves me some mini/frisbee golfs, though. also, videogame golfs (lol).

Forgive me, but I'm digging the new Wotak.

I give props to a content laden, non-meepry product that is showcased here. Another example of this is Truenative's autocross journal.

Good Work.

  • Wotak
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i've thought about getting into golf, but i really don't have the time. i loves me some mini/frisbee golfs, though. also, videogame golfs (lol).

If you don't have the time, don't bother. It doesn't really have to be an expensive hobby but it is very time consuming. It is superseriously time consuming if you wish to become good at it. You really have to hit a lot of meep to develop a swing and you have to study your swing and compare it to pros with similar swings to learn how to get better. I find myself examining my swing, mentally, at work - constantly.

Golf almost seems to be a thing that can never be perfected and for me, that's part of the attraction. It's like a journey that parallels life. A young golf game shows immaturity and your shots do stupid things. As you gain experience your game begins to show maturity, and with that maturity your shots begin to do the right things... yet you can't force it to mature. You just have to dedicate yourself to it and keep trying.

When asked what his secret to playing good golf was, Ben Hogan said, "The secret is in the dirt."

Truer words were never spoken. You've got to dig your game out of the dirt on the practice range and that's the only secret to good golf.

Thanks for the comment, man.

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I spent nearly all of my adult life working for Titleist Golf, so I feel touched when I see someone taking golf seriously. Chunk?

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dent: "I spent nearly all of my adult life working for Titleist Golf, so I feel touched when I see someone taking golf seriously."

What do you do for Titleist Golf?

  • Acidburn
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My last business trip I was on

  • Wotak
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Pro putting tip vids hosted at Odyssey.

Phil makes a couple of good suggestions.

You have to x out of each video to get back to the menu but there are some solid putting tips and theory here to study.

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Anytime one of you meeptards are in the Philly area, the first game at The Course At Glelnn Mills is on me, pick a saturday or sunday. Beer is on you.

  • Wotak
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You're on if I'm ever in the neighborhood.

Swing Update:

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I'm feeling pretty good about my swing. I shot a couple of 50's on Saturday. I still get into trouble with my drives and I can't tee off on a par three to save my life. I always seem to hit left and long on those short meeps. I can make a 150 yard approach with a 9 iron every time but put me on a par 3 tee box for the same shot and I choke every time. meeper.

I'm not happy with my mechanics in this video. I'm locking my right knee in my back swing and although I appear to transition out of it and into a nice down swing, I think I'm losing power with that move. Ben Hogan swore that a golfer should never straighten the right knee. His theory was that the hips need to stay more square to the target line and the body should rotate above the hips to coil into a powerful "loaded" position.

I gotta work on that.

The grip is new and it really allows me to hit through the ball. Notice how my finish is much higher. Not quite there yet but better. I weakened the left hand a bit by rotating the thumb more to the left. I also weakened the right hand by moving the entire grip over the club and to the left. This really helps me "swing" the club rather than try to push it with my right arm.

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When axed, niger couldn't explain this meep.

http://www.youtube.com/v/lYnlo-dwPXs

  • Wotak
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http://www.youtube.com/v/CCSnobOdxf8

Hey, if that XL brown man can figure out how to fix that meeped up swing, my skinny white meep can do it too.

  • Wotak
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Well, the season's coming to a close. 27 holes today at Fore Lakes, Kimball, Michigan.

I scored a 54, 53 and a 49. Not bad for my newbie meep. I lost about 8 meep but on this course you always bring extra. The entire course is laid out around 4 lakes and they come into play on a lot of the holes. I have played worse here. The beer at the 28th hole was very wet and very needed.

And now for a treat, watch the Tiger swing...

http://www.youtube.com/v/cHcP6X7dEUo

  • HOBO
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^sweetest swing evar.

I happen to work with Art in RL & this Came into the office this week:

Any Idea what course it might be? My Research sez the Artist Mil Radler was playing on the PGA tour in 84, 86 and 87

  • Wotak
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It looks like a hole I'd love at least as much as my wifes, but it rings no bells. I started playing this sport in May 2007. I'm as newbie as it gets in this area. Acidburn's been around for while, I'll bet he knows. If not, so what. We hit little white meep. It's fun. They go far. We try to get them into a tiny hole with as few hits as possible. Yes, we're silly.

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Golf is peace. 91 rounds this year so far.

  • Wotak
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HOBO: ^sweetest swing evar.

Dude, as much as I agree when I watch that video, Ben Hogans swing was ultra premier plus that -X- eleventy kazillion. I have video that would make your golf meep sweat tears. I'll rip that meep but it's not for public. If you want, PM is the answer.

  • dent
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What do you do for Titleist Golf?

I worked as a printer for the first couple of years (printing custom logos on the golf meep) until I finally moved up and worked on the 3 man design team for Titleist, Pinnacle and Footjoy. My job at the time was conceptual art for everything from new gloves, shoes, meep, equipment to complete packaging and POP for all the products.

Also, in your video, your driver looks a little long for you. It should be the same angle as your arms at a comfortable stance. In your video, as your standing, the club takes a different angle then your extended arms. NOT GOOD.

Go buy a tube cutter, a razor and a new grip. Slice the current grip vertically, and peel it off. Cut about 3-4" off the club. Wrap clear 2-sided tape around the newly cut and cleaned shaft and wet it with lots of alcohol - now it's slippery enough to slide your new grip onto. TADA, your driver is now custom.

  • tank
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First - a little background on me so you hopefully won't think I'm full of meep - My handicap. I worked on a golf course teeing up meep for students while the pro was teaching from the time I was 12 (all the while soaking up the lessons like a sponge) until 16, when I moved to the grounds crew, then after that managed a pro shop for several years through college until I had to get a "real job".

I am absolutely impressed with the improvement in your golf swing from the first vid to the last. Hobo has a great point on your grip, but of course Hobo and grip are two things I expect too see together in print at all times.

Anyhow, there are a couple things I noticed that may or may not have been brought up by other swarmers -

1) I am a big believer in setting up correctly - as far as I'm concerned, if you don't start in a good position it's nearly impossible to get into the right position at impact. You can start with a neutral grip, that is, the V's formed between the thumbs and your hands should point more or less at each one's corresponding shoulder at address. Feet, hips, and shoulders should be parallel or slightly open to the target line. There have been a lot of articles written on ball position - that being said, I go with just inside my left heel with the driver, and as I progress through the irons it moves back about half a ball for each shorter club. (another point - a good drill to make sure you make a descending blow with your irons is to look at the front of the ball - if you hit a lot of shots fat this might help)

2) The sway is a big problem. I would guess that you have a great deal of trouble with consistently starting the ball on line. As you watch that vid of Tiger, note the position of his head - it doesn't move laterally - at all! When you practice, try to imagine a giant nail that goes from the top of your head, through your spine, and out your tailbone where it extends into the ground. That would be the axis of your swing arc. If you pay attention to better players, most move their heads very little, if any, before impact.

3) In your last vid (from behind the ball), your hips seem to clear very early. They are in a finish position at the point of impact. I think if you can quiet the sway some of that may go away. I just checked that last vid again - your first move on the downswing seems a bit over-exaggarated with the hips - try to quiet that a bit. You also seem to be set up a bit closed with your feet, your hips look square, and your shoulders open. An easy way for you to square your shoulders is to slightly drop your right elbow toward your torso at address. Not a lot, just a little - experiment a little with it, you'll see what I mean.

4) You still seem to be breaking your wrists a little early in the backswing, not necessarily a big deal, some pros teach that, some teach a one piece takeaway - just remember that the clubhead needs to stay square - yours looks a little closed just after takeaway, but you seem to have it corrected by the top. (Incidentally - I can tell you have been watching a lot of Hogan from your swing - how's that for a compliment? My biggest hard-on for Hogan's swing was the angle created between his arms and tha shaft just as he started to snap the clubhead through the impact zone. His hands are about a foot from where they started at address and the clubhead is sitll behind his head - how's that for a power stroke? If you look at some of the face on pictures of him, it's amazing he didn't break clubs in the course of his normal swing)

Overall, it looks pretty good. Keep working at it, you'll see improvement, it just takes a while, and you're never immune from the occasional meepty round. I played pretty well all summer, then during the second round of my member-guest I apparently forgot how to swing a club - scratch that - I could swing a club just fine - just not a golf club. 3 of the worst rounds I've played since I was in high school, then BAM! Back to good play, just like it never went bad. Golf sucks, but I love it anyway!

  • tank
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Wotak -

I just looked at that last vid of you again - while it's playing, click and drag the progress indicator from the :31 to :32 second mark and you'll see the hip thing I'm talking about. If you created a continuous loop of that piece of the video you would like you're air-meep. I think you probably should try to tone down that move. One other thing - you're right about locking that right knee - try getting both feet more perpendicular to the target line - it will give you a more solid brace to coil against during your backswing, and try to keep your right heel on the ground just a hair longer. Good luck!

  • Wotak
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dent: I worked as a printer for the first couple of years (printing custom logos on the golf meep) until I finally moved up and worked on the 3 man design team for Titleist, Pinnacle and Footjoy. My job at the time was conceptual art for everything from new gloves, shoes, meep, equipment to complete packaging and POP for all the products.

This hits me in the envy meepon. I would love to have a job as cool as this. (I use FJ gloves, btw) Dentjob FTW!

dent: Also, in your video, your driver looks a little long for you. It should be the same angle as your arms at a comfortable stance. In your video, as your standing, the club takes a different angle then your extended arms. NOT GOOD.

I respectfully disagree with this theory for these reasons. The swing theory you are referring to is a "single plane" concept. It was used by Moe Norman and as far as I know, he invented it. Ben Hogan once stated that Moe Norman was the only golfer he'd even consider walking across the street to watch strike meep. If you're familiar with Hogan's self taught approach, you'll understand that this was a great compliment to Moe and his unique, self taught swing... but Hogan didn't utilize the "single plane" golf swing. He perfected (in my opinion) the classic "two plane" golf swing. This is the theory I practice and is also the theory that almost all professional golfers base their swings on.

That is not to say that your "single plane" approach is wrong. It's not wrong, just different. It's also not my style of golf swing. My clubs were fitted to my height at the local pro shop. They base these fittings on the distance from your wrist to the floor while you stand in an upright position and tweak it based on your set-up and swing profile, so I don't think I'll be lopping any amount of inches off any of my sticks any time soon.

Thanks for the feedback though. Seriously, I love to hear the swing theory of other golfers even if I don't subscribe to it in my game.

tank: First - a little background on me so you hopefully won't think I'm full of meep - My handicap. I worked on a golf course teeing up meep for students while the pro was teaching from the time I was 12 (all the while soaking up the lessons like a sponge) until 16, when I moved to the grounds crew, then after that managed a pro shop for several years through college until I had to get a "real job".

Those are some nice scores there, brother! You'd kick the meep out of me on any course in the world.

tank: I am absolutely impressed with the improvement in your golf swing from the first vid to the last. Hobo has a great point on your grip, but of course Hobo and grip are two things I expect too see together in print at all times.

Thanks man, I'm really dedicated to becoming a good golfer. I have worked very meep my swing this summer and it's nice to get positive feedback from guys who got game. I actually hear this from a lot of the golfers I meet on the course. My playing partner and I often team up with other random twosomes to play out the course as a foursome. I meet golfers who have been playing for years that refuse to believe that I just started playing in May. Some offer advice, others don't even take notice, but most will comment in a positive light. Especially when I drive. This is always reassurance that I am on the right track.

1) I am a big believer in setting up correctly - as far as I'm concerned, if you don't start in a good position it's nearly impossible to get into the right position at impact. You can start with a neutral grip, that is, the V's formed between the thumbs and your hands should point more or less at each one's corresponding shoulder at address. Feet, hips, and shoulders should be parallel or slightly open to the target line. There have been a lot of articles written on ball position - that being said, I go with just inside my left heel with the driver, and as I progress through the irons it moves back about half a ball for each shorter club. (another point - a good drill to make sure you make a descending blow with your irons is to look at the front of the ball - if you hit a lot of shots fat this might help)

Excellent tips. I agree and employ all of this in my game. I can not use a neutral grip though. I have had to weaken my right grip by rotating my hand over to the left a bit, ala, Hogan theory, and it has worked well for me.

2) The sway is a big problem. I would guess that you have a great deal of trouble with consistently starting the ball on line. As you watch that vid of Tiger, note the position of his head - it doesn't move laterally - at all! When you practice, try to imagine a giant nail that goes from the top of your head, through your spine, and out your tailbone where it extends into the ground. That would be the axis of your swing arc. If you pay attention to better players, most move their heads very little, if any, before impact.

I agree 100% and I've addressed my concern about this part of my swing in earlier posts. Most of my practice sessions lately have been all about working on this issue. The problem is that I'm over doing the weight transfer into my right leg in my backswing. That pulls my entire upper body to the right and my hips over rotate because of that right knee straightening out. I've grooved this swing and it's very uncomfortable to swing without doing these bad things... but I am working hard to regroove a swing that does exactly what you have pointed out. It takes time and practice but I think I'm slowly fixing this problem.

3) In your last vid (from behind the ball), your hips seem to clear very early. They are in a finish position at the point of impact. I think if you can quiet the sway some of that may go away. I just checked that last vid again - your first move on the downswing seems a bit over-exaggarated with the hips - try to quiet that a bit. You also seem to be set up a bit closed with your feet, your hips look square, and your shoulders open. An easy way for you to square your shoulders is to slightly drop your right elbow toward your torso at address. Not a lot, just a little - experiment a little with it, you'll see what I mean.

Again, you hit the nail right on the head. My own analysis of this video agrees with you 100%. I believe that all of my current swing issues stem directly from that lateral movement caused by overdoing the weight transfer and the over rotation of my hips caused by the straight right knee. Cool beans that you find the same faults and cooler beans that you offer tips that I can employ on the practice range. Tanktips FTW!

4) You still seem to be breaking your wrists a little early in the backswing, not necessarily a big deal, some pros teach that, some teach a one piece takeaway - just remember that the clubhead needs to stay square - yours looks a little closed just after takeaway, but you seem to have it corrected by the top. (Incidentally - I can tell you have been watching a lot of Hogan from your swing - how's that for a compliment? My biggest hard-on for Hogan's swing was the angle created between his arms and tha shaft just as he started to snap the clubhead through the impact zone. His hands are about a foot from where they started at address and the clubhead is sitll behind his head - how's that for a power stroke? If you look at some of the face on pictures of him, it's amazing he didn't break clubs in the course of his normal swing)

Yeah, I've played with the early wrist break and breaking a bit later. It doesn't seem to have much of an impact on my ball flight either way. It's more comfortable to break somewhat early, so I just do that most of the time. Your comments on Hogans swing reflect my own. I love how fluid he appears during the downswing and through impact. The extreme lag he managed to build before his release through the ball is certainly impressive even to this day. Thanks tons for the compliment. My dream is to be able to swing almost exactly like Hogan, so that compliment means a lot to me on that level.

Overall, it looks pretty good. Keep working at it, you'll see improvement, it just takes a while, and you're never immune from the occasional meepty round. I played pretty well all summer, then during the second round of my member-guest I apparently forgot how to swing a club - scratch that - I could swing a club just fine - just not a golf club. 3 of the worst rounds I've played since I was in high school, then BAM! Back to good play, just like it never went bad. Golf sucks, but I love it anyway!

Golf has been a good thing for me on many levels but most of all it has taught me humility in a manner that has truly effected my personality on a level that I doubt any other life lesson could have taught me. It has thought me to listen and appreciate feedback, criticism and advice. I find myself applying this to everything in my life - and for that reason alone I will always love this game. It may sound cheesy, but I really do believe that golf has made me a better person.

Thanks for the comments, man. I'd love to shoot a round with you someday. If you're ever in SE Michigan, look me up.

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If you are interested, I have a drill that will help you groove a swing, though it will encourage swinging into the ball from the inside (thus promoting a draw) which if I remember correctly, is not part of the Hogan ideal.

There is one thing I always found a little strange - Hogan's swing does not outwardly look like a swing that would promote an easy-to-hit fade. Hobo's earlier comment, I beleive, was aimed at getting your swing grooved from slightly inside the target line.

Anyway - for this drill, get yourself a piece of 2x4 about 3 feet long. Set it on edge aimed down your target line, then tee up a ball (in the center or slightly forward of the 2x4 center) so that at address the toe of your club (6 or 7 iron is a good choice of club) is within about an inch of the 2x4, then hit away. The first few times you will almost definitely smash into the 2x4 if you are outside the target line through the impact zone - which is why you don't want to be toward the back of the 2x4 and catch the rear end of it - that would hurt and possibly cause a broken shaft. The idea here is that after a few swings, you should be able to tell if you are cutting across the ball. Another visualization would be if you were standing at home plate, you would be trying to make a swing that starts the ball toward right-center. Again, this may not completely jive with the Hogan-esque type swing you are building, but it may at least help keep you from coming over the top so badly. Let me know if you try it, and how it works.

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If all else fails, try .

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If all else fails, try .

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OK, fuk it. I'm too tired to fix the clicky.

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tank: "I had meep meep"

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Thanks LOki.

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The Legend Of Bagger Vance vs Bhagavad-Gita

"Bagger Vance, a caddie who helps World War I hero Rannulph Junah find his "authentic" swing on a Savannah golf course in 1931, is one of a kind. More than a helper with a few words of great golf advice, Bagger Vance is a fictionalized version of Bhagavan, the supreme Hindu god. And Rannulph Junah isn't just a golfer from Savannah, Georgia. He is a fictionalized version of Arjuna, the mortal whom Bhagavan assists in the Hindu scriptural epic, the Bhagavad-Gita."

I'm not a religious person but I absolutely love this movie. To me, it's a movie about becoming a respectable man and the story isn't really about golf; it's about life. I never knew the movie mirrored an earlier religious story but I now see that my theory about the movie really being about life is somewhat true. While I do not believe that there is a God that is going to come down and lead me (or anyone) to becoming a better person, I do think this movie describes the parallels between life and golf and how golf can teach you more about yourself than you might think. To me golf is proof that working hard to improve yourself has great benefits.

I don't view golf as a mystical thing. To me it is just a game that you can't pretend to be good at; like life. It's a game that doesn't have shortcuts; like life. It's also a game that offers no special treatment to anyone who plays it. Everyone must meet the course on it's terms and play through it's obstacles in order to reach the end; like life. Your shot's are yours and you must take responsibility for all of them, even the bad ones, and try to keep yourself in play; just like life.

Anyway, enough sappy meep. Enjoy the link. It's pretty cool.

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Lots of blah-blah-man-stuff but overall, PRIMO

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I still get out whenever and seem to have a great game until around beer 9. Than I steal whatever ball I can find "Insert meep jokes here"

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I just got back from my Wednesday night "league" (if you want to call it that - basically whoever shows up kicks in 10 bucks a man and we make teams and play that plus a skins game) - In any case, I just played the round of my meeping life.

It's normally a nine hole match, but we finished the front with lots of time to spare, so my team headed to the back for a few extra holes. I had posted a respectable 1-over 36 on the front, rock solid but nothing overly special. Started the back by ripping a 3-iron down the middle (a wood puts me in a hazard that crosses the fairway) knocking it on and two putting for par. Next hole, meep-hum 3 for par, followed by birdies on back-to-back par 5's. Lip out birdie putts on both 14 and 15 from inside 12 feet, drive the par 4 16th and 2-putt for birdie.

No sweat. 3-under for the side, 2-under for the round - this is where I would normally puke all over myself.

17 tee - rip a drive into the left rough, then nearly hole a gap wedge from 130. Get to the green thinking, sink this 9 footer and I can bogey 18 for 69. Proceed to hit my 9 footer about 5 feet (this is where I can taste the puke in my throat), knee-knocker left for par, and holy meep I make it.

Get to 18, get lucky drawing a decent lie in the right rough off the tee ball, followed by a horrible wedge to the front fringe and 30 feet left for birdie and 68.

I think I might've had a little meep slipping into the boxers. Perfect 3-putt range.

That is, right up to the point that I rapped it into the hole for a 68. Plus one on the front, 4 under on the back.

I'm gonna have a meep for a week.

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The first 68 I get will likely be when I'm about 68.

My best score so far is a 97 but I love this meeping game.

Great round, slugger.

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Wo-Tak:

You need to know something about Tank. He drives the ball liked a shaved gorilla. Dude is freakishly long off the tee-box. Unfortunetly he also putts like a shaved gorilla. Sorry Tank, No time for love, see you at the OzFest Friday Morning.

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Playing the South Course in Michigan City, IN Saturday morning. Any local Swarmmeepers that want to join in should speak up before Friday.

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I'm in.

I can't believe you're driving all that way for the MC Muni, though. Aberdeen used to be my old home course (we lived in The Preserve, on the cart path between 12 & 13), and Blackthorn is just a short drive away in South Bend.

Or course, I haven't swung a club since we moved out of Aberdeen, so it may be better for me to stick to the Muni.

This could be brutal...

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Please make sure a camera is available.

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Blackthorn looks pretty cool.

I'll give you a call today to discuss.

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How did the golf match go?

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Unfortunately it's not Saturday morning yet but thanks for the reminder, Bobo.

May Jesus bless the pygmies in your panties. God bless Bobo.

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My bad. Can we have some preliminary match info? This is very exciting. The first time Swarmers will be matched up in something that doesn't involve smelling a meep.

I don't know what kind of info you want, but here's what I've got:

I haven't played golf since about 2006 or thereabout. From 2004-2006 I played about 12 rounds a year. Prior to that, perhaps 4-6 rounds. I've played since I was about 12 or 14, but I've never been much good at it.

Although I've mostly just slogged around local goat ranches, I've played some good ones, too. I've played every course on Hilton Head, all the courses at Pebble Beach, Dubs Dread, and some other nice courses. I sucked at all of them without exception.

My plan for tomorrow is to enjoy a rare day away from business, shank every meeping drive, drink some beer, and revel in some LS camaraderie. Oh, and to bust Wotak's meepring with mine meathammer. I don't get out much these days, so I'll really looking forward to this.

There will be pics/vids.

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lol, i had mexican for dinner. enjoy the farty meepring.

Quit the grab-meep, you two. Hit the showers.

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good news everyone!

IT'S A BOY

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Well, that was a good day. I met a pretty cool guy that I wouldn't have ever met were it not for linkswarm and we spent the day trying not to hit golfers with hooks and slices.

I lost a ton of meep in the tall grass and Clav (Shankopotomous) hit about every cart path within driving distance. Neither of us spilled a beer and neither of us managed to par a single hole, which was an unspoken goal. Clav had the highest score at the end of 18 so he won this round but I'll get him next time. There were a few trees that I missed and I know I could have hit them had I started drinking a bit sooner.

Clav missed getting video of the best shot of the day; when I blasted a 3 Wood into a tree that was about 8 feet away and nearly took my own ugly head off. Luckily I was a bit wobbly by then and my legs gave out before the ball went through my entire wotak head like a 1.62 oz, rubber filled cannonball.

Many thanks to Clav for taking the day to pal around a golf course with a fellow swarm-meeper and thanks for the beers.

Also, the reach-around was half hearted and unlubricated. I don't recommend it.

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I would love to smell your meep and play some golf. Looks like you guys had a blast.

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Well, Bobo, later this summer I'd like to host the very first LinkSwarm Golf Party (LGP) and all of you linkswarm golfers are invited. I have a great course in mind for the event: Fore Lakes... bring a meepload of extra meep.

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fastlane fosters a pen-pal/lover relationship with a terrorist who blew up herself just yesterday - unlucky
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fastlane tries out his first gloryhole - blown by disease ridden mule that likes to snap carrots in half - very unlucky
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fastlane
And how could I forget Pepper as she attempts to scare a wild animal. Honey badger doesn't give a meep.~ unlucky
fastlane
Sunny goes to baby a shower. Drowns.~ unlucky
fastlane
Dragonstaff wears a buIIetproof vest. Shot in the face. ~ unlucky
fastlane
BigD meeps the meep out of a girl. Literally.~ unlucky
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BeachGoat bends over to pick up hot girI's dropped books. meeps. ~ unlucky
fastlane
M_A_M means to write "kk" to black friend on Facebook chat. Adds extra k. ~ unlucky
fastlane
MstrLance finally goes to summer camp. Auschwitz. ~ Unlucky
fastlane
Spanky goes to snort a line of coke. Sneezes. ~ unlucky
fastlane
Post watermelon head post haste.
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Spanky volunteers to help inner city kids, shot in drive by. ~ unlucky
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Happy Day to Ya, Long May Ye Wave It
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ShbuhpRlo&feature=youtu.be
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on Spanky's Pic Place: Okay here's a+
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on Spanky's Pic Place: I SWEAR I was+
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Happy Birthday, Spanky! You're in your prime for the 13th time.
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I bet it's well manicured.
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Try to picture Joan River's meep during the exam. It'll save some embarassment.
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spanky... You Goshdarn two-faced Gemini!
middle_age+
Don't kid yourself, you'll cry yourself to sleep after the next physical. Happy birthday you middle aged meepgot.
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Happy birthday. Post pic for photoshopping.
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today on linkswarm, spanky unsuccessfully attempts to change the subject
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Or: Nine years before getting the pickle jar treatment.
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Change of topic; I'm 41 today.
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Ummm...
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The doc went at me like he was trying to get the last pickle out of the jar.
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Home Sweet meeping Home! Ahhhh...
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Tell the GrandMonkey, "He's Dancing with the Tree!"
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There is a 400lb Senegalese Tortoise down the street who has a tree stump for a girlfriend.
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My pet Gerbil is dry meep a mound of cedar bedding? What gives?
BigDinWaun+
One of those old Republican Women's Cookbooks or French Gastronomy in Africa?
BigDinWaun+
I'm trying to fashion a rattle and pacifier out of chicken gibblets... does anyone have any references for this... one of those old Republican Women
linkswarm
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BeachGoat
"It's a Boy!"
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Let the baby roast rest for an hour, then have your guests help pull the meat. Everyone will have fond memories of the event to cherish FOREVER!
spankerchi+
Just remember to give yourself plenty of time for cooking (a field-dressed baby can weigh upwards of 30 lbs and take a FULL DAY to cook!)
spankerchi+
I prefer free range, breast fed toddler as there's more dense muscle mass.
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Do you keep them penned up like veal and infuse them with formula or mother's milk? I hear formula fed babies have a medicinal taste. I don't want that for the party.... I would be a terrible host.
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No need to leave the skin on. A toddler's got a lot of good marbling.
spankerchi+
I'd go dry rub and smoke it like a picnic meep.
BeachGoat
HOME!...That is all
BigDinWaun+
Can anyone recommend a Masala that flavors flesh?
sunny77
however much is in a can of coconut cream
MstrLance
Trans-fat or poly-unsaturated?
BigDinWaun+
How many fat calories in a small, American toddler?
MstrLance
MIT's new coating should help with that.
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Ahh. One of those.
dragonstaf+
Not to my knowledge. Details please.
spankerchi+
That's when you take a really greasy meep and before the meep hits the water it grabs onto your meep hair and swings from tuft to tuft around your a##hole.
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Speaking of hair removal products; Have you ever taken a Tarzan Sh#t?
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Ugh...too much barbecue pork.
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