24

Never bring this up again. kthx.

Keifer is DEAD to me.

42 is so much cooler than 24

meep these rabbitheads. I'll be your 24 buddy, Dent.

Just give me about 3.5 seasons' worth of evening marathons to catch up.

OH YAY!!!11

I shall fly to NY so we can watch it together on your couch!!11

YO LET'S DO DIS

I'LL GET ON MY CUDDLIN LIPS

The Shield > 24

^werd meeper

the shield is awesome, but don't meep with jack bauer, meepas.

i've seen seasons 1, 4, and the current one. we should have a party in which we watch all 5 days of 24 IN 5 DAYS... or not.

Man, I was so hoping that Jack would open the can of whoop-meep on that Skelator looking meep Audrey.

I was happy when Samwise Gamgee got kilt.

I was sad when Edgar died.

I was all "WOOT" when Jack shot Robocop's wife in the leg. That rocked.

The greatest episode was the last meeting between Jack Bauer and Ryan Chappelle on the train tracks. I nearly cried, I swear.

You're not alone on this one Dent, been watching since season one. Best episode ever though was the finale where Jack just sat in his car and started srying before taking the call from CTU and driving off.

I miss Lipsy Mcfatty too.

Clearly, this thread, which once offered so much joy into my life, now needs one giant spoiler tag for those of us who are me.

JACK'S PARTNER KILLS JACK'S WIFE!!!

this meepgot spoiler bullmeep has got to go.

You should tell us how far along in the series you are, vas. Otherwise, it's like walking on eggshells in this thread.

I want to have meepual relations with the new girl from Monday's episode, Kate Mara.

the 'that was wrong' chick? heh.

CAN O'WORMS

president palmer is jack's real father

meep no, Secret Service agent Aaron is really Jack's father. It's obvious.

For some 24 fun you should check out some of the ridiculous meep people argue about in the IMDB forums.

Vas, you know you can start watching it on A&E and that superstation channel from Chicago right?

i think 'the shiled' and '24' are the two best shows on tv.

of course, 'the shiled' was on for like 4 weeks and 24 is on for like 40.

"that was wrong" saved the day yet she's obviously psycho. nice!!

Chiklis was a great Curly

(real deal)

Get ready meepes!

meep I HATE THAT PIECE OF meep WANNA BE PRESIDENT!!!

That greasy meepmeep weasle meephead.

i can't believe it was him. that piece of meep!

didn't think it was possible to hate that meepnut more but the writers made it happen.

what a twist!!

This journal HAS to be opened again.

I just finished watching the 4 hour season premiere for season 6 that had leaked 2 days ago. If you haven't seen it, holy meeping go get it. This could be the greatest start to a 24 season yet.

If it's down, I have copies.

I just discovered this show last month. Since then, I spent practically every waking hour watching Season 1 thru 5. :D

So I guess I can wait till Sunday to see the opener. Glad to hear it will be excellent!

I'm not buying it. Yea surprise huh. Ill watch it in about 2 more years and be totally lost then it will cancel, thats how i roll.

WAIT FOR IT.

i bring good tidings from the future. we have procured the dvdrips of the first 4 hours of season 6. top meeping notch.

if you download 24, you won't see commercials. without commercials, jack bauer will cease to exist. to prevent this from happening, jack bauer will track you. relentlessly. then? he will kill you. his method is not unlike freddy kreuger, even though jack was the originator. despite how far you run, regardless of where you hide you will need to sleep. that is when jack will get you.

i am waiting for sunday (THE LORD'S DAY) like a good patriot. this will cement me as jack's right hand man.

in heaven.

What mundhra said.

Jack Bauer doesn't want to hurt you. But we all know what happens to those who mess around with Jack's livelyhood.

Sign me up for the god-damned 24 club. I'm such a lover of the show, I havent even downloaded the leaked episodes!!!!!!

For me, that's amazing

this show is blatant mind control; the similarities between the plot and the political issues of the day (legalized torture, illegal govt surveillance) are so transparent its disgusting; obviously you are all aware of this, my question is why swallow such propaganda?

Because a pre-occupation with keeping FBI thoughts out of your head is exhausting and not really rewarding when concerning some visual entertainment that really runs zero risk of brainwashing you.

I was watching 24 this november and the next day in the polling booth I saw Jack Bauer's face before me, grimacing, as he watched me vote for democrats and greens and socialists. He whispered in my ear, "I can never beat the terrorists if the democrats raise the minimum wage."

I had to vote republican.

Seriously though, I've never watched 24 because I know if I watch the first episode then I'll have to watch all of them (but I have tried crack.)

sugarslim: I was thinking just the opposite; if there's a message in the show (how dull if there ain't), then it's formed by themes of government buerocracy, mismanagement, and treason at the highest levels. And Kim getting kidnapped.

Season 6, episode 4: Your crotch will never be the same.

I dont follow 24, but here is what i noticed from my roomate's season 4 marathon:

habib marwan, muslim terrorist, obvious connection here

mike novick (i had to look the character up) looks like meep cheney, his line of thinking seems to mirror as well, esp now that i read his wiki

acting president logan is under intense pressure to ignore the law and authorize torture of some terrorist dude, while he refrains he is portrayed as weak for doing so.jack bauer is portrayed as heroic for acting outside the law.

this is just what caught out of the side of my eye, and the not so subtle propaganda elements definitely add up to a decidedly pointed message.

So, you've never really watched the show, yet you feel compelled to pass judgement? WTF, over?

Sadly I admit to watching the first four hours prematurely, and all I'm gonna say is if you thought Jack biting dudes throat out was the height of it, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Hey meepglepips - watch the show with atleast both corners of your eye before you pass judgement and Jack sticks a screwdriver in your fathers pee-hole.

Now, I was patiently waiting for someone to mention Season 6, E04. This blew my meep off, made it fly around the room and then tore its way up my meep. I enjoyed every second of it.

Hey meepstains,

Some of have chosen to wait until the episodes actually air.

So kindly shut the meep up about meep that hasn't happened yet.

sugarslim: mike novick (i had to look the character up) looks like meep cheney, his line of thinking seems to mirror as well, esp now that i read his wiki

Mike Novick was a judicious, fair character, and the right-hand man of the man-crush hero-president David Palmer.

Sherry Palmer and Walt meepmings are two characters who come to mind that might fill the manipulating neo-con/self-serving bureacrat role, and both are fatally flawed, non-heroic characters who are portrayed as the enemies of Jack, freedom, the American people, and yourself (who is clearly a terrorist and deserves no quarter).

acting president logan is under intense pressure to ignore the law and authorize torture of some terrorist dude, while he refrains he is portrayed as weak for doing so.jack bauer is portrayed as heroic for acting outside the law.

Logan was the epitome of the weak-minded weasel-mouthed guy who doesn't deserve office, and this became painfully clear after his first few episodes. He was hugely petty, concerned with his own safety and reputation to the detriment of the country, and colluded with terrorists in much the way conspiracy types claim Bush has done in ordering the attacks on the twin towers, etc.

Logan may be the most-hated American character the show has had, and the writers compared him to ex-president Palmer any number of times -- it was like watching the Hindenberg crash in slow motion.

Jack Bauer is a monumentally lawful character (alignment lol). The trick dynamic here is that he often flouts the smaller operating letter of the law in order to protect the greater principles, but not quite in the expedient cynical soundbite way we've seen the Bush administration do lately. (Only in the current era would I feel the preceeding sentence sounds so similar to the self-excusing propaganda we've heard that I have to include such "no, really" disclaimers.)

this is just what caught out of the side of my eye, and the not so subtle propaganda elements definitely add up to a decidedly pointed message.

Evidently you really do have to watch the show to find compelling criticisms. Don't be that guy who sent around the petition about Peter Jackson's "Two Towers" film being an attempt to cash in on the 9/11 thing.

Is torture of innocent suspects portrayed without excessive moralizing, even sometimes aggrandized? Absolutely, and I can see why that would make anyone uncomfortable with the underlying intent, despite the in-show social consequences Jack has to suffer as a result. However, at no time I can recall is the fictional administration rewarded for endangering civil liberties or abridging rights or manipulating public opinion. You wish we had a president like David Palmer, and so do I.

In short, you're going to have to trust me -- we don't have much time.

really folks, to break down the show piece by piece and regard every phrase and sentence as "mind control," and "propaganda" is not my intent, the point is the bigger picture:

shows like this only further the idea that "the ends justify the means," as long as you are working for a noble government agency

and even worse,

it appears that a TV show is now the standard against which REAL LIFE is measured (mission accomplished)

feel free to flame on, im sure Rupert Murdoch would be proud

"So kindly shut the meep up about meep that hasn't happened yet."

meep you, meep. Just for that, Jack dies in hour 4.

sugarslim: shows like this only further the idea that "the ends justify the means,"

So does meepin' Bugs Bunny.

Uh oh, looks like your guy's little show might get cancelled!

meep

wow. just, meeping wow.

My bag of popcorn cooked itself udring the last minute of the show

!

D8

Last 10 minutes of Ep4 almost made my head asplode!

olbermann speaks,

props to meta for the find

one more time

He makes some good points but still ignores that most of the torture on the show doesn't get results; and while he recognizes the complex metaphor of the show vs. reality vs. the Bush administration, he doesn't acknowledge his own subtle departure from reality, as he pretends to be a movie critic.

Not going to ruin it for anyone that hasn't seen tonight's episode yet, but Holy meep! Bluetooth man?

Jack's dad should have been played by Donald Sutherland. That it's not makes Baby Jesus cry.

that'll do jack, that'll do.

They tried to get Sutherland, but he was committed to another project.

lol, russian sovereignty WHAT.