wotak       04-29-2008, 03:21 pm

I see this shit all the time. Kids on drugs because they can't be expected to control themselves. I think it's a bullshit move.

Children need to be taught that there rules and guidelines. They must be made aware at a young age that stepping outside the guidelines earns them punishment. After a few ass-whippings for not doing what is expected of them, they learn that it's easier to just do what they're told and follow whatever rules you lay out for them. Do this when they're young and you establish the respect a father needs to properly raise a son. It all starts with your word. Your word must be iron. Say what you're going to do and do what you say. This teaches them to pay attention and follow direction or get an ass tanning. These early lessons go a long way, believe me.

A 10 year old kid should have a healthy amount of respect for his father based upon previous experience. This one doesn't. The drugs aren't teaching him anything but how to wander through life on drugs.

Not to be a dick but this type of behavior makes it very evident that you have not established any sort of respect with this child. I don't know if you can fix that this late in the game.

Good luck.

nurgleming       04-29-2008, 04:57 pm

respek wotak :high5:

my kid is gonna know how some pretty standard discipline as me and wifey are bringing him up. kids have got to learn actions have consequences.

MstrLance       04-29-2008, 05:26 pm

I have it easy: my 10-year-old fears a lack of gaming access. That keeps him in line for the most part.

Sorry 'bout your luck, bobacus. I hope the kid learns - and stabilizes - before the really bad stuff starts to happen.

bobacus       04-29-2008, 05:56 pm

If I had it my way, he wouldn't be taking anything but hard exercise for his frustrations. I have gone on record as having said that.
Because Bobby was abused, I am not allowed to spank him, say the EXPERTS.
Personally, I'd like to reach back like a pimp and cold slap the kid.
The system in place is not supporting the parents by taking the parent induced, healthy fear of us away.
Hopefully, he will just kill me in my sleep soon.
Maybe I'll be able to get some rest then.

infectionConnection       04-29-2008, 10:23 pm

intense. good luck. you are a breed apart for putting up with that kind of behavior without snapping. The poor kid sounds like he's a real mess. A kid like that seems destined to spending his like in an institution of some sort.

multiple bitchslaps to the "donor" Whatever the fuck that means.

nocal       04-29-2008, 11:05 pm

i'm not one to advocate medication, but i don't think spanking this kid and "teaching him to be responsible" are the issue, exactly.

i know that so many of you are fond of the bootstraps around here, and i know wotak specifically could straighten out all bad behavior with a palm to the bare ass cheek, but this kid sounds like he may have a legitimate mental illness. specifically, the narcissistic behavior sounds like sociopathy.

fuck if i know how to deal with a kid like that. but then again, when i have a shooting pain deep in my balls i go see a doctor, if you get my drift.

shitbox       05-01-2008, 03:59 pm

Wow. This kid is obviously troubled and will end up in prison shortly.
He obviously can benefit from some intense(maybe inpatient?) psychotherapy that likely should include the use of some psychotropic medications.
You seem to be at your wits end and rightfully so, but you also seem to hate this kid and just an fyi, kids pick up on that shit.

Get him help, or turn him over to the state.

bobacus       05-01-2008, 05:04 pm

I don't at all hate this kid,shitbox. I am simply at the end of my rope over the fact that for seven years that nothing, including 2 trips to residential treatment, three different therapeudic approaches,The family preservation program, four therapists, and opening a CPS case for nothing is bringing me too. I say psyco faggot kid to you. On the inside, I am saying " Fuck, my beautiful baby boy,why can I not find the solution to help him?"
When he first came home to me from California, I was so worried about him that let him sleep in my room with me, I have had 2 women leave me because of his illness, and it didn't bother me, because he is so much more important to me than some girl.
His condition has cost me my last two jobs, due to my frequent absences from work, we are in financial crisis, and there really is nothing that I can do about it, short of writing him off, and I would rather die than do that, however, all the turmoil is shaking me to the core, which is the thing that he sees,and the only thing I cannot hide from him, as I have developed a facial tic, and my hands shake visibly.I am also having trouble remembering anything.

wrecker       05-01-2008, 08:52 pm

I know sharing this stuff with us might help you feel better short term, but all in all, we're a bunch of retards who have no clue on how to help you.

That being said, I think most of us are happy and willing to listen to your plight.

Your kid is killing you. At this rate you are going to have to make a serious decision about what to do with your kid. Institutionalizing him may be your only option. Look at this way, what would happen to him if couldn't take care of him? The state would toss him in the nut hut. Maybe you should consider the same course of action in order to save yourself.

bobacus       05-01-2008, 09:24 pm

I know you're assholes, but you're my assholes. Besides, the jokes serve to break up the tension. I know that I am just a screen name, but being able to vent this shit is good for me, so thanks, assholes.
Keep up the abuse.

nurgleming       05-02-2008, 03:54 am

every now and again a journal pops up like this and shows that one of the retards is actually human.

after having a kid recently i know where you're coming from a little. i would rip the fucking head off anyone who actually abused a kid, and thats not some manly bullshit just said lightly, so you saying you'd rather die than give up on the boy, thats some serious nuts there.

there's not going to be an easy way to resolve any of your issues with the boy, mainly due to being watched/monitored by the state, you're not going to be allowed any freedom other than to feed and clothe and do whatever the little runt wants, and the state has such a good rep when it comes to dealing with social/child welfare!

my advice, phone oprah/ricky/sally/ellen/springer and get one of those fuckers to throw money/therapy/bootcamps/dildo's at you, i see it all working all the time on tv, tv land is bright and shiny!

bobacus       05-02-2008, 10:20 am

OPRAHDILDOS for Healing!!@!!!

sunny77       05-02-2008, 10:40 am

wrecker: I know sharing this stuff with us might help you feel better short term, but all in all, we're a bunch of retards who have no clue on how to help you.


uh, and just whom exactly are you speaking for?

wrecker       05-02-2008, 11:10 am

Thanks for driving my point home.

graycube       05-05-2008, 05:32 am

Something like boot camp might work. If he joined the Navy Seals and put some of that energy to blowing stuff up, he might get it out of his system.

I too am inclined to think that too many meds can make things worse, but I've also had friends who have neglected their meds and ended up in the hospital, suicidal.

I was talking with someone else recently who had to install an alarm system on their home - not to keep burglars out, but to keep track of when his kid (after being messed up by the egg donor) left the house.

He said that measure, plus a few other things that proved he really cared, made a world of difference. Apparently while living with the ex, his daughter had never had anyone take any interest in anything she did. She kept acting out worse and worse until a series of crises enabled the change of custody to my friend.

Sign him up for skydiving?

So advice from an anonymous internet geek, 2 things -

1) Continue to Care.
2) Channel the energy.

That is all you can do.

bobacus       05-05-2008, 10:26 am

Thank you all.
This weekend was highlighted with me finding a fucking fillet knife (No idea the origin) and plans to off his mom and some police mapped out Columbine style, and he drew his mom in effigy, 3 targets on the head, neck, and heart.
The tracking officer will be over shortly to photograph the art.
The school psychologist is scared shitless.She almost puked on the phone.
We arent giving up, but I'm afraid that we aren't going to make it to court Friday.
I think this shit will blow up in our faces sooner than that.
I would not be shocked a bit...
We're taking turns sleeping in shifts now.

johnlenin       05-05-2008, 11:02 am

drop that kid off in an institution and get yourself some rest.

Acidburn       05-05-2008, 11:48 am

It is very honorable what you and the meatslab are doing. But you need to realize when it's beyond your control which path the kid is on. When you compare the two events "saying he wants to kill and now mapping it out" you really should for you and your wifes lives take the kid back. Or put him onto 24 hour care, but visit him as much as possible to show you didn't totaly leave him. You feel torn up now but how will you feel when the kid goes ahead with his plan?

vasudeva       05-07-2008, 09:26 am

Everybody dead yet?

bobacus       05-07-2008, 01:15 pm

We were spot visited by his senate bill 94 tracking officer, and some other schmuck court investigator yesterday.
They keep attempting to blow sunshine in my anus, just like all the other fucking people that promised real help in the past.
Court is Friday morning.
Last night about 10, he was making noises from his bed to try and freak out the wife and her mom.Both of them have worked in a kids psych unit, and agree that they haven't seen a case this strange ever.
After getting my visual presentation transferred into the PC, I went to bed. I'll get that up for you guys.

bobacus       05-08-2008, 10:46 am

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bobacus       05-08-2008, 10:48 am

Mind you that this is just a fucking fraction of his work.

nurgleming       05-08-2008, 11:17 am

fixt for the pure shit of it

magicchex       05-08-2008, 01:07 pm

WTF do people find so far about copy/pasting the THUMBNAIL link code from imageshack to here? It's CTRL-C, CTRL-V. How can you fail so terribly? And why, when you finally had a smidgen of success, did you choose to NOT use the thumbnail option?

nurgleming       05-08-2008, 02:06 pm

because imageshack is shit, and not everyone gives a rats ass, and not everyone has the time to figure out the difference between html and bbcode cos they're dealing with their troubled kids and dont have the spare time that being locked up for bank robbery affords them.

vasudeva       05-08-2008, 02:21 pm

And then they go and add widened journal pages to their list of troubles and KBOOM, FUCKING HEAD ARSPLOWED GUVNAH WOT

wotak       05-08-2008, 04:02 pm

I retract my previous statement. The sprog-demon is insane. Run away. Fastly.

johnlenin       05-08-2008, 04:42 pm

The kid sucks at drawing.

nocal       05-08-2008, 09:09 pm

dude seriously what a gay world we live in

because spanking him and making him do chores would totally fix this

jwalker       05-08-2008, 09:31 pm

Is there any way to talk to him? Like to get inside his mind? Or is he unreachable?

magicchex       05-11-2008, 12:40 am

Who's Cathy?