meeping Pigs or Heroes in Blue?

I've been harrased plenty of times, but one of the few times I got into serious trouble the arresting cop took care of me. Put me in a car before the other assholes could claim I was resisting and beat me up too bad. Made sure I was only charged with the worst offense, instead of 20 other bullmeep ones that the other cops were yelling for. He even came to my house a few days later when I got let out and brought me back my drivers license and gave me some advice on how not to be a meephead. Just like any group of anything, there will be good and bad in the bunch.

Q: meeping Pigs or Heroes in Blue?

A: Both, and all sorts of other descriptions both good and bad.

Next question.

Wotak: Q: meeping Pigs or Heroes in Blue? A: Both, and all sorts of other descriptions both good and bad. Next question.

There is no question, tell your close encounter stories.

Last month a State Trooper let me off with a warning after catching me speeding. This type of story happens all the time but this type of story wouldn't make a linkswarm worthy link.

Cops doing bad things, on the other hand, do make swarm worthy links. Thus, this apparent conundrum.

Are cops heroes? Sure, some of them are. Some of them are also useless drunken assholes who hate you and everyone else. Most of them are just regular guys. They are probably a pretty accurate cross-section of the communities they work within - but they are also public servants who do their job in the public eye. In todays 'cameras everywhere/everyone's a blogger' society, they often get busted meeping up and fall into the meeping pig category.

l don't understand why this is troubling to some among us.

All of my personal interactions with police officers and members of the sheriffs department have been mutually polite and respectful. My opinion about wrong-doing by police officers and members of the sheriffs department has little to do with my personal interactions with any of them.

Wearing a badge and a gun is an amplification of the person doing the wearing. If you meet a good, honest, likable person who is wearing a gun and a badge during your time of need, you are very likely to find yourself better off than you were before you met him or her. But if, on the other hand, you happen to meet a dishonest, violent and mean-spirited person wearing them, then you might die, or loose your children, or your freedom, or anything else you might have. And it doesn't even have to be your time of need. It might be a 2:00 AM paramilitary assault on the wrong house.

In my opinion, we as a society put too much blind trust in every recipient of our collective power, from civilian law enforcement, to the armed forces, to the elected or appointed representatives of the people. We the people need to get off our lazy meep and do a lot more watchdogging in order to keep the bad ones in line. No offense to the good ones intended.

MstrLance: All of my personal interactions with police officers and members of the sheriffs department have been mutually polite and respectful. My opinion about wrong-doing by police officers and members of the sheriffs department has little to do with my personal interactions with any of them. Wearing a badge and a gun is an amplification of the person doing the wearing. If you meet a good, honest, likable person who is wearing a gun and a badge during your time of need, you are very likely to find yourself better off than you were before you met him or her. But if, on the other hand, you happen to meet a dishonest, violent and mean-spirited person wearing them, then you might die, or loose your children, or your freedom, or anything else you might have. And it doesn't even have to be your time of need. It might be a 2:00 AM paramilitary assault on the wrong house.

Quoting because it's exactly what I'm thinking. Nice work.

In my opinion, we as a society put too much blind trust in every recipient of our collective power, from civilian law enforcement, to the armed forces, to the elected or appointed representatives of the people. We the people need to get off our lazy meep and do a lot more watchdogging in order to keep the bad ones in line. No offense to the good ones intended.

This also is correct. Unfortunately, the mentality now is "Our Heroes" can do no wrong, therefore when they do obvious wrong nothing is done about it. Or, if something is done about it, it's never anything that might put a stop to similar behavior in the future. Therefore it just continues.

This is not entirely the cops' fault, as our society seems to have always been moving slowly but steadily toward the religious-crypto-fascist police state meep Cheney wet dreams about. You can't have true reform and anything nice in a culture that glorifies a jackboot on your neck.

OK I'll bite.

True story, some may remember...

Januarary 12, 2002

Wifes birthday, we went out for a birthday dinner. We had a pitcher of beer and one shot each, followed by a nice hefty dinner. We were driving our Mustang back home, when I decided to change lanes. It had just started raining so the roads were slick. My wife had her seatbelt under her arm because of her massive meep, it felt better to her. Well the car lost control and we spun around in a ditch. She had hit the dash and passed out. A few minutes later the constable pulls up and begins to question me and my son. My wifewas put into the ambulance. Long story longer...The constable tells me I would be let go if I passed the alcohol test. I blew a .058, Here in Texas the limit is .08. He then tells me he is taking me for public intoxication. Drops me off at the county jail, where I begged to call my parents to let them know where my wife was. I didnt know if she was alive or not. I was not rude or irrational or out of line. I was very kind and courtious. I was then surrounded by 2 other sherrifs and punched in the side of my head, then held down by 2 others while I was kicked in my back and side and meep. I ended up with 3 broken ribs and thrown in a drunk tank. They also thrown a resisting arrest and said I pnched at them to cover there own meep.In the court of law, the Judges dont like that meep. I didnt have a lawyer and asked for more time to find one. the judge demanded I meep in a cup and had to start taking drug classes because I had a little weed in my system. Do I have a problem with cops? YES I do.

edited for double post meepry.

_{On 2010-06-30 at 18:33:55, meepbox asked to smell your meep}

^gnarly.

My personal experience with police is primarily negative although I have a had quite a few encounters with cool cops. I'm friends with a ATF agent who is the raddest guy you could ever meet. Majoring in criminolgy has provided me with insight as to what makes cops tick and I really don't hate swine as much as some here may be led to believe. I'll post some experiences when I get a chance.

Side note: Watch an 17 year old episode of cops and then a recent episode of cops and study the differences in their behavior. The militarization of local police forces influences substantially how they interact with the public(ie; the people they are attempting to collect evidence on to affect an arrest, rather than protect and serve as in days of yore). We have thousands of Iraq/Afgan vets coming back with PTSD and undiagnosed TBIs, many of whom are then given guns and put out on the streets to police our local cities...of course there are going to be some bad seeds. Then there are just some cops who are plain assholes.

I've only been arrested once, and it was about 12 years ago for a DUI. When I got to the State Troopers office, the arresting officer thought it would be awesome to take money out of my wallet in front of me to treat his buddies with Dunkin' Donuts. Granted, I was drunk and caught driving - but you don't solve a crime with a crime, ya bastid'.

I've only been pulled over for speeding a couple times in my life and one occasion was recent. The cop pulled me over for doing 50 in a 30, and after a short, polite conversation, he shook my hand and let me go without writing a ticket.

I honestly think the number of bad cops are FAR smaller than the decent cops, just from personal experiences.

I'm going to go with "meeping Pigs" on this one. Not all cops are bad, but most I've encountered are power tripping authoritarian assholes. I like their role as a "peace officers", not "overly suspicious violators of my civil rights". The police as I see them are hardly different than any other gang, they're just the gang that's backed by the state.

I think most people can agree that police are necessary to a well-ordered society, unfortunately they are a very homogeneous group.... mostly straight, white males, on average most are not college educated (as is most of the population of the United States for that matter) i would think that since their pay is nothing to be laughed at there could be higher standards set such as a requirement of a college degree (or at least community college) which can reasonably be justified on the basis that they are given an extraordinary amount of power within out society, namely the power over life and death in situations in which deadly force becomes necessary. Most importantly I would say is a need to prevent cronyism by doing away with popularly elected law enforcement officials and instead promoting people based on merit. Being an individual tasked to uphold the law should never be about who you know or who your family members are but upon intelligence.

Perhaps this could be achieved through a blind application process where the qualifications of individuals are evaluated without any hint of their true identity being revealed to those hiring them. Assigning numbers maybe?

Also centralizing the police in many smaller town and counties may also be necessary that way all hiring decisions aren't made by a small town chief who has never lived anywhere else in his whole life.

That criticism aside, of the 193 (appx.) countries in the world, the police force in the United States and Canada probably rank the among the highest, most profesisonal, and least corrupt.

Dismas:That criticism aside, of the 193 (appx.) countries in the world, the police force in the United States and Canada probably rank the among the highest, most profesisonal, and least corrupt.

I would agree with this except for the UK, Those Coppers rule...from what I hear. I dont think they even have guns there.

I've just woken up, and none of the following will probably have much bearing but:

only special units in the uk carry weapons, whilst this possibly causes delays and possibly injuries/death that could have been avoided if all police carried firearms, like in the recent event where the guy went round with a shotgun in the north of england, it does mean that there are obviously a lot fewer wrongful killings of innocent people or overuse of force. I don't know how the 2 balance out, but there has never been any major outcry that the police should all carry firearms so as to be better prepared to protect the public, even after the london bombings and the latest gun incident.

I've recently been to 2 public events, a civilian emergency services display and an armed forces show. I took my 3 year old son up to both the armed police unit and the british marines stand where each had a variety of weapons on display. The police acted completely different to the serving marines that we met, they were calm, respectful and extremely confident in themselves in a reassuring manner, when showing my boy the guns and letting him handle them, they did so in a great way, carefully showing how to handle it properly, how to sight it and so on. the marines however were more jovial about it, quite happy to make fun of a child holding a fully automatic machine gun, telling him to "shoot it". I'm not sure i'd like these guys, however well trained in firearms use they are, being put in a peaceful civvy polive force with that kind of fun attitude. granted they were in a "fun" event, but so were the police, and both jobs carry a lot of respect and public image.

on thread topic, i've had 3 personal dealings with the police, one time i got pulled over at 3am driving home from a friends house after we both did a graveyard shift, i was plenty stoned and paranoid but a quick chat to the officer explaining i'd just finished work and was about to pull into my driveway 50 yards up the road and he let me go.

Another time i got pulled over, the guy pulled me over and claimed i wasn't wearing my seatbelt. I argued in a polite and sincere way that i had been, and i had only taken it off so i could talk to him, and he let me go with a stern word to make sure i was.

the third time was when i was a university student, hanging out a third floor window firing bb guns at friends in the house opposite ours, some off duty community officer (not a real pig, unpaid volunteer) called the police saying there was a guy waving a gun out of a window. they turned up, we invited them in and showed them the little bb pistols we were using, they had a little joke saying how stupid we were which we admitted to and that was that, they also said an armed unit was on standby, but they generally make sure the situation really warrants that kind of response first.

so my dealings have mostly been ok, but there are still meep uk pigs, youtubes full of them, this is a good example that sort of relates to what i do here

_{On 2010-07-01 at 08:25:33, nurglets asked to smell your meep}

This meep happened where I live.

http://somerset-kentucky.com/local/x1800094935/Alleged-beating-spurs-lawsuit

WHOOP! WHOOP! DIS IS DA THREAD POLICE! POOL OVAH!