ummm...matches, beans, a knife, and porn.

bic lighters, knives, .22 ammo (lots), wool things, a wind up timex, meep dude, I am so unprepared for the zombie apocalypse...

Knife, Fishing line, hooks, rope, trash bags(for solar stills) Water pills(potassium permanganate) solar blanket, salt, jacket...etc.

Kahuna showed me Halligan bars and I always thought it'd be the kind of thing you'd hate to lug around until you were thankful as meep you had it on you.

you'll probably need a life saver bottle

Precious metal ingots and/or several varieties of foreign currency.

dae_su: you'll probably need a life saver bottle

If that mothermeeper was into doing anything besides make meep tons of money, they'd be less than $170 bucks a pop. meep him and meep that bottle.

One thing they stressed during desert survival training was that you never take a bic lighter, always carry a zippo instead. They don't explode and are a lot more rugged. Keep it well soaked and store a spare flint and spring under the pad.

A map may prove useful.

THIS

meepbox:

dae_su: you'll probably need a life saver bottle

If that mothermeeper was into doing anything besides make meep tons of money, they'd be less than $170 bucks a pop. meep him and meep that bottle.

Agreed. You are much better off just building up your immune system.

Animes and hot pockets.

Magnesium bar, nylon rope, plastic poncho, Leatherman tool, and clean undies.

JohnLenin:

Learn a new trick, kthx.

Rope, cable, wire, netting, a saw,(seems you always have to contain and control the environment), big knife. Water bottle or pills would be good. Tarps and plastic sheeting. Grain flour and seeds. Deck of cards, backgammon board.

dagwood: Learn a new trick, kthx.

:/

Looks like I'm traveling with Ninja.

mundhra:

dagwood: Learn a new trick, kthx.

:/

His meepz gettin' old like I was punished for, jus' sayin'.

10' pole, 50' rope, tinderbox w/ flint & steel, 1 week iron rations.

Flint and steel and magnesium fire starters are really kind of dumb. You can start thousands of fires with a single Bic lighter at a cost of maybe $2. Putting about 5 of these in a waterproof bag guarantees you years and years of worry free, trouble free fire starting.

There really is no reason to use these other 'survivalist' fire starting devices unless you think it's cool or something. Magnesium starters don't last very long and flint and steel are a pain in the meep to use. Bic lighters will light even after being submerged in water as long as you spend a few minutes drying the flint and striker. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to use anything else.

_{On 2010-04-28 at 20:01:48, Wotak asked to smell your meep}

Wotak: Flint and steel and magnesium fire starters are really kind of dumb. You can start thousands of fires with a single Bic lighter at a cost of maybe $2. Putting about 5 of these in a waterproof bag guarantees you years and years of worry free, trouble free fire starting. There really is no reason to use these other 'survivalist' fire starting devices unless you think it's cool or something. Magnesium starters don't last very long and flint and steel are a pain in the meep to use. Bic lighters will light even after being submerged in water as long as you spend a few minutes drying the flint and striker. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to use anything else.

How long do you really think you could hold on to one? I know I always end up losing Bic lighters.

Wotak: Flint and steel and magnesium fire starters are really kind of dumb. You can start thousands of fires with a single Bic lighter at a cost of maybe $2. Putting about 5 of these in a waterproof bag guarantees you years and years of worry free, trouble free fire starting. There really is no reason to use these other 'survivalist' fire starting devices unless you think it's cool or something. Magnesium starters don't last very long and flint and steel are a pain in the meep to use. Bic lighters will light even after being submerged in water as long as you spend a few minutes drying the flint and striker. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to use anything else. _{On 2010-04-28 at 20:01:48, Wotak asked to smell your meep}

That's because yer a meep.

tinfoil for hats!

flake:

Wotak: Flint and steel and magnesium fire starters are really kind of dumb. You can start thousands of fires with a single Bic lighter at a cost of maybe $2. Putting about 5 of these in a waterproof bag guarantees you years and years of worry free, trouble free fire starting. There really is no reason to use these other 'survivalist' fire starting devices unless you think it's cool or something. Magnesium starters don't last very long and flint and steel are a pain in the meep to use. Bic lighters will light even after being submerged in water as long as you spend a few minutes drying the flint and striker. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to use anything else.

How long do you really think you could hold on to one? I know I always end up losing Bic lighters.

Ok, how about you impress me with your ultra heteroness and provide me with one valid reason to use one of these 'survivalist' gimmicks to start fires instead of a Bic lighter.

When you fail, I'll meet you behind the barn for a mutual JO. Just friends, no meep stuff.

lol, I meant to quote ghostrider. Maybe I am a meep.

I learned how to start a fire with an empty bic and lint pulled from a sock on Survivorman. It actually works.

Wotak: Flint and steel and magnesium fire starters are really kind of dumb. You can start thousands of fires with a single Bic lighter at a cost of maybe $2. Putting about 5 of these in a waterproof bag guarantees you years and years of worry free, trouble free fire starting. There really is no reason to use these other 'survivalist' fire starting devices unless you think it's cool or something. Magnesium starters don't last very long and flint and steel are a pain in the meep to use. Bic lighters will light even after being submerged in water as long as you spend a few minutes drying the flint and striker. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to use anything else. _{On 2010-04-28 at 20:01:48, Wotak asked to smell your meep}

CRACKHEADS CONCUR!

I actually have a magnesium/steel bar I have bought in Alaska and have used for 15 years. Last time i used it was last fall when we went camping. It was rainy and wet, but with some birch bark and brown pine needles, I started a fire in a jif. Yeah, I guess I do think they are cool. More importantly, they work.

No lube please, I prefer a 'dry rub'.

Wotak: Ok, how about you impress me with your ultra heteroness and provide me with one valid reason to use one of these 'survivalist' gimmicks to start fires instead of a Bic lighter.

say you're on your last lighter and i'm on my last firestriker and we both slip in some leaves and land hard right on the pocket that's holding our firemaking device. anything sufficiently complicated can break unlike two things you scrape together.

mundhra:

Wotak: Ok, how about you impress me with your ultra heteroness and provide me with one valid reason to use one of these 'survivalist' gimmicks to start fires instead of a Bic lighter.

say you're on your last lighter and i'm on my last firestriker and we both slip in some leaves and land hard right on the pocket that's holding our firemaking device. anything sufficiently complicated can break unlike two things you scrape together.

Ok, let me get this image straight in my head... do we land on top of each other?

Luckily, Bic lighters don't break like this. They're pretty robust little devices. I smoked cigs for close to 30 years and never broke a Bic.

These magnesium and flint starters are great tv props but in reality they are just not as good a tool as a simple (cheap) package of disposable lighters. They are much more expensive and don't start anywhere near as many fires.

You wouldn't choose a sharpened bone over a knife would you? Or a stick over a good .22 rifle. Just sayin'.

What about zippo lighters? They seem tougher and easier to service.

OR

WHY NOT BOTH! HOLY meep DUDES!

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

Just make sure you bring an extra can of fluid. Which might be good ti have anyway.

Wotak:

mundhra:

Wotak: Ok, how about you impress me with your ultra heteroness and provide me with one valid reason to use one of these 'survivalist' gimmicks to start fires instead of a Bic lighter.

say you're on your last lighter and i'm on my last firestriker and we both slip in some leaves and land hard right on the pocket that's holding our firemaking device. anything sufficiently complicated can break unlike two things you scrape together.

Ok, let me get this image straight in my head... do we land on top of each other?

Luckily, Bic lighters don't break like this. They're pretty robust little devices. I smoked cigs for close to 30 years and never broke a Bic.

These magnesium and flint starters are great tv props but in reality they are just not as good a tool as a simple (cheap) package of disposable lighters. They are much more expensive and don't start anywhere near as many fires.

You wouldn't choose a sharpened bone over a knife would you? Or a stick over a good .22 rifle. Just sayin'.

a knife will malfunction a lot less than a gun will.

i'm not saying those things aren't useful, but in a truly meep hits the fan situation i wouldn't just grab (a) lighter(s), i'd want something else as backup.

but by all means, knock yourself out.

mundhra:

Wotak:

mundhra:

Wotak: Ok, how about you impress me with your ultra heteroness and provide me with one valid reason to use one of these 'survivalist' gimmicks to start fires instead of a Bic lighter.

say you're on your last lighter and i'm on my last firestriker and we both slip in some leaves and land hard right on the pocket that's holding our firemaking device. anything sufficiently complicated can break unlike two things you scrape together.

Ok, let me get this image straight in my head... do we land on top of each other?

Luckily, Bic lighters don't break like this. They're pretty robust little devices. I smoked cigs for close to 30 years and never broke a Bic.

These magnesium and flint starters are great tv props but in reality they are just not as good a tool as a simple (cheap) package of disposable lighters. They are much more expensive and don't start anywhere near as many fires.

You wouldn't choose a sharpened bone over a knife would you? Or a stick over a good .22 rifle. Just sayin'.

jesus christ. we're not falling into each other you idiot. i've had many lighters meep up on me from losing the flint+spring or having the wheel holders break. maybe not for you, but those things break all the meeping time.

a knife will malfunction a lot less than a gun will.

i'm not saying those things aren't useful, but in a truly meep hits the fan situation i wouldn't just grab (a) lighter(s), i'd want something else as backup.

but by all means, knock yourself out.

It's cool. I know what you mean.

Hay, can you PM me regarding the time we fell down together in the leaves? I'd like to hear more of that story.

If you were deep in the Brazilian rainforest and came across a tribe of savages that had never been exposed to civilization before, I bet you could whip out your Bic and become a God to them. Oh yeah, and I bet all the women savages would be short stacked redheads.

If you need to build a bug-out pack - don't be meep.

Use a meeping BIC, meepgot.

(I was paid to type that)

No I wasn't.

Yes I was and we could go on like this for days.

Dual-purpose FTW.

CLAVOEDIT: Don't be a meepgot. Quit hotlinking meep and use the LS Uploader.

_{On 2010-04-30 at 10:14:35, Clavis_Apocalypticae asked to smell your meep}

P.S. Rifle scopes work, too.

Also, This.</>

MstrLance: Also, This.

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If the world ends, you might need a pack of smokes. Just make sure you have something to light them with...

It's not fair! I finally had time!.... Wait. Where's my lighter?

Mother fu-!!

Tampons, condoms, spermicidal deet.

Rice. Those meepes on survivor always seem to crave it like gold.

This

Fubar

Heather: Tampons, condoms, spermicidal deet. Rice. Those meepes on survivor always seem to crave it like gold.

Gotta love a woman that plays to her strengths.

I don't think anyone wants to be giving birth with no appreciable medical care. Eff THAT.

Amen to that, Heather. Condoms would be in my bag too.

50's era GI wool shirts and wool pants for under $16 each. At this price these are a steal. I wear a set like this under my modern BDU's when I hunt and they keep a white boy meeping warm. They're 80% wool, 20% nylon and they last for-meeping-ever.

_{On 2010-05-21 at 12:39:25, Wotak asked to smell your meep}

Lownotes: Fubar

Something about this just sits right in my soul.

Dunno why I didnt post this earlier, maybe its because I wrote this thread off during the bic vs zippo meepgotry, anyhow,