Girls and handguns

Life Alert. You are exactly the type of person who has no cause to own a firearm. If you are dead set on having dad buy you a gun, get a .454 Casull. Perfect for beginners and shooting in an apartment.

Buy a knife. Stabbing a home invader multiple times is much more satisfying than shooting one. You get to be up close and personal. Multiple stabbing also allows you a rare chance to get their blood all over you and listen to their whimpering pleas for mercy. Eventually, after you've stabbed them enough, you'll get to witness the last pathetic, gurgling breath they will ever take. Man, what a rush!

I carry a pretty decent sized knife almost all the time.

That is option two.

But sniping some meep in my living room from behind my bed would make my daddy proud. He's gone a bit nuts about home safety since we moved from Houston.

ghostrider: Life Alert. You are exactly the type of person who has no cause to own a firearm. If you are dead set on having dad buy you a gun, get a .454 Casull. Perfect for beginners and shooting in an apartment.

Awesome.

If you live in an apartment, consider getting a shotgun of some kind. Get one w/ a short barrel and a pistol grip - this may mean NOT getting a 12-gauge so you don't blow your wrists off. Perhaps a .410? 20-gauge? Also, put small bird load in it, it will do just as much harm as a big nasty slug at close range. Also consider something less than lethal, like a tazer or a kimber lifeact.

Handgun? You really don't want a handgun bullet going thru walls and killing your innocent neighbors during your home-invasion-shootout.

metatron: or a kimber lifeact. Handgun? You really don't want a handgun bullet going thru walls and killing your innocent neighbors during your home-invasion-shootout.

Mace is a decent idea, but it's just as disorienting to me as it would be to an intruder.

I want an itty bitty meep gun that hurts a lot and won't kill my neighbors. I am in a house, and my closest neighbors are a half-dozen paces from me because they built on their lots backwards.

Mom's suggestion was a Gatling gun set up in the living room. This would be awesome, except that there is a clear line of sight between the front door and the back door.

As an aside, if you're poor like me and want to look like you are technologically the meep (or paranoid out of your mind) at Radio Shack you can get a dummy camera for $20, and then a blinking LED light for for $4. Lo and behold, ghetto security, apt to foil the inexperienced burglar for less than $60 for the whole house.

If you really feel you need a gun for security, I'd second the tactical shotgun idea. The better idea is probably the decoy camera with fake blinky lights or some other non-violent option, especially if you're as uncoordinated as you sound. Also, in close combat(most home security situations) a knife is more deadly then a gun as it leaves much bigger holes for the perp to bleed from.

One final option is to move somewhere you aren't so scared. If you're a paranoid schizo and no such place exists, then I'd definitely refrain from buying and using a gun for home security.

Over-penetration is not a problem with the appropriate ammo. These are great and devastating.

But you might want to read this nice little article before proceeding.

And a gun is not good if you can't operate it properly in a meepstorm situation. These guys are legit. Their site looks hokey as meep but they operate this huge compount ouside of Vegas and have awesome classes. I'd reccomend the "buy 3 group lessons get free Springfield XD." You basically get 3 days of awesome military/combat ready training AND a meeping decent pistol for 1200 bucks, the price you should be spending on your pistol. (a good 1911 may cost more).

But since you are 200 lbs, you could always just put 'em in a headlock or sit on 'em.

My mom and I were discussing whether or not I could con my dad into buying me a handgun to have in my home

You're asking your mom to ask your dad to buy you a meep.

You need to think this over, lest I smell a troll.

meepbox: And a gun is not good if you can't operate it properly in a meepstorm situation. These guys are legit. Their site looks hokey as meep but they operate this huge compount ouside of Vegas and have awesome classes. I'd reccomend the "buy 3 group lessons get free Springfield XD." You basically get 3 days of awesome military/combat ready training AND a meeping decent pistol for 1200 bucks, the price you should be spending on your pistol. (a good 1911 may cost more). But since you are 200 lbs, you could always just put 'em in a headlock or sit on 'em.

That looks like Chuck-E-Cheese for my dad. Bookmarked. Anything I get is to make him feel better about me living alone for the most part. I know that anything he suggests is liable to be huge, heavy, and unmanageable, so I figured I'd ask here. I've been hearing some odd noises around the house late at night that can't be conclusively linked to the heater or the house, and discussed with my mom what to do if something were to happen. This house is just not a good one for getting out of, quietly or otherwise. Front door, back door, or falling out of a huge heavy window that might just close on you.

And meep you. I'm working on it.

Here's one less-than-lethal option.

is it some half remembered urban myth that most people who buy guns/knives for self protection end up getting shot/stabbed by their own weapon?

do you like my moustache?

nurglets: is it some half remembered urban myth that most people who buy guns/knives for self protection end up getting shot/stabbed by their own weapon?

Yes. It has happened, but the statistic is from the Dept. Of Pulling Numbers Out Of Your meep. As far as I can tell, the people who have been killed with their own weapon are folks who had their gun found by Mr. BadGuy first, or couldn't actually pull the trigger when the holy moment arrived.

Before you buy any gun, especially an itty bitty meep gun, you should read Massad Ayoob's The Truth About Self Protection and/or In the Gravest Extreme

Many here may well know what they are talking about, but you or I wouldn't know the difference between good advice and stupid advice when it comes to which gun to buy, or even whether you are better off with one in the first place.

I think most here will agree Ayoob is an expert in the subject.

ghostrider: the statistic is from the Dept. Of Pulling Numbers Out Of Your meep.

ah, the most important, widely used and constantly quoted department on LS, if not the entire internet.

ever consider a self-defense/martial arts course?

i thought shotguns were home defense no-brainers.

metatron: If you live in an apartment, consider getting a shotgun of some kind. Get one w/ a short barrel and a pistol grip - this may mean NOT getting a 12-gauge so you don't blow your wrists off. Perhaps a .410? 20-gauge? Also, put small bird load in it, it will do just as much harm as a big nasty slug at close range. Also consider something less than lethal, like a tazer or a kimber lifeact. Handgun? You really don't want a handgun bullet going thru walls and killing your innocent neighbors during your home-invasion-shootout.

If you are dead set on getting a gun, ^^ This^^

I believe in shotguns for home defense, they do a meep of a lot of damage at close range and bird shot won't go through walls at any great velocity. For a compact option you can keep in a locked drawer or small combo safe the company Taurus makes a revolver that accommodates a .410 shotgun shell or a .45LC pistol cartridge (dirty harry big). If you load this with 6 or 8 bird shot you will have a pretty effective and somewhat safe close range weapon.

^ This is a no-brainer solution and probably the best advice you will get in this thread.

Get a big dog.

truenative:

metatron: If you live in an apartment, consider getting a shotgun of some kind. Get one w/ a short barrel and a pistol grip - this may mean NOT getting a 12-gauge so you don't blow your wrists off. Perhaps a .410? 20-gauge? Also, put small bird load in it, it will do just as much harm as a big nasty slug at close range. Also consider something less than lethal, like a tazer or a kimber lifeact. Handgun? You really don't want a handgun bullet going thru walls and killing your innocent neighbors during your home-invasion-shootout.

If you are dead set on getting a gun, ^^ This^^

I believe in shotguns for home defense, they do a meep of a lot of damage at close range and bird shot won't go through walls at any great velocity. For a compact option you can keep in a locked drawer or small combo safe the company Taurus makes a revolver that accommodates a .410 shotgun shell or a .45LC pistol cartridge (dirty harry big). If you load this with 6 or 8 bird shot you will have a pretty effective and somewhat safe close range weapon.

http://www.youtube.com/v/jl-ZIo-Wztc&hl=en_US&fs=1&

This is my very favorite gun.

If dadsy loves you......this.

_{On 2010-02-09 at 18:00:40, LORDKAHUNA asked to smell your meep}

I have a judge, I keep it loaded with .45 and .410 in series. you would definitely need to try it out at the range first, it can have a meep of a kick. I know my wife has a hard time with it. one thing to consider before you get a gun is this. Can you actually pull the trigger on another person? It's easy to say "meep yeah", but really think about killing someone else..think about it and maybe invest the money into a good monitoring security system instead. Definately take a gun safety course BEFORE you buy anything.